--- In l..., "Mukund Deshmukh" wrote: >
> > Thank you Mukund,
> >
> > Do children in India grow up with technology ?
> >
> > Do these tech students see technology before getting into college ?
> >
> > don
> >
> The answer is again NO.
> Before college the syllabus includes elementary electronics, but again
their
> study is restricted up to scoring marks, and not beyond that...
>
> Some time I feel very sorry for these students.....they are victim of the
> education system.
>
What about outside the education system? That is only a small part of the
picture - as long as the system gives you basic reading and writing skills and
teaches you *how* to learn.
We had little or no exposure to electronics at school in the UK. My interest in
electronics started about the age of 9 when my father gave me a morse code key
that he had in the navy. A few years later I took an old family radio apart to
try to find out how it worked. We had access to a library with science books and
electronics magazines and there were a couple of second-hand radio and
electronics army-disposal stores with heaps of cheap parts to experiment with.
Could an Indian student have similar opportunities during their childhood?
Generalizations, generalizations... and off-topic too...
Let's get over this, or start a different thread, guys...
--Ahmad
On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Mukund Deshmukh
wrote:
> > Thank you Mukund,
> >
> > Do children in India grow up with technology ?
> >
> > Do these tech students see technology before getting into college ?
> >
> > don
> >
> The answer is again NO.
> Before college the syllabus includes elementary electronics, but again
> their
> study is restricted up to scoring marks, and not beyond that...
>
> Some time I feel very sorry for these students.....they are victim of the
> education system.
> Warm Regards,
> Mukund Deshmukh,
> Beta Computronics Pvt Ltd,
> 10/1 IT Park,
> Nagpur -440022, India.
>
> Meet us at....
> TAIPEIPLAS 2010, Taipei, Taiwan, Booth No I407, March 5-9, 2010.
> CHINAPLAS 2010, Shanghai, China, Booth No. W5R51, April 19-22, 2010.
>
>
>
Reply by Mukund Deshmukh●February 20, 20102010-02-20
> Thank you Mukund,
>
> Do children in India grow up with technology ?
>
> Do these tech students see technology before getting into college ?
>
> don
> The answer is again NO.
Before college the syllabus includes elementary electronics, but again their
study is restricted up to scoring marks, and not beyond that...
Some time I feel very sorry for these students.....they are victim of the
education system.
Warm Regards,
Mukund Deshmukh,
Beta Computronics Pvt Ltd,
10/1 IT Park,
Nagpur -440022, India.
Meet us at....
TAIPEIPLAS 2010, Taipei, Taiwan, Booth No I407, March 5-9, 2010.
CHINAPLAS 2010, Shanghai, China, Booth No. W5R51, April 19-22, 2010.
Reply by 42Bastian●February 20, 20102010-02-20
Donald
Without living in India, I can say that ...
> Do children in India grow up with technology ?
.. a wast majority of children do not have contact with computer
technology as compared with children in countries like USA, Japan or in
short the developed countries.
To my opinion the problem is on one hand the college system an on the
other hand the professors who seem to give final year projects they
themselves could not solve (a prejudice yes, but there must be a reason
the students ask those question in mailing lists and not the professors).
Do these tech students see technology before getting into college ?
don
--- In l..., "Mukund Deshmukh" wrote: >
> > Are Indian Colleges so much different than western colleges ??
> > Are Indian students so much different than western students ??
> > Unfortunately the answer to both question is YES.
> The Indian universities use syllabus, which is 10 years behind. The good old
> 8085 is still taught in colleges!
> Secondly the student career depends on only one yearly examination, and
> marks obtained in that. So they study with the sole intention of scoring
> marks, and not to understand the subject.
> This picture holds good for 90% of universities, barring IIT ( Indian
> Institutes of Technology).
> Warm Regards,
> Mukund Deshmukh,
> Beta Computronics Pvt Ltd,
> 10/1 IT Park,
> Nagpur -440022, India.
>
> Meet us at....
> TAIPEIPLAS 2010, Taipei, Taiwan, Booth No I407, March 5-9, 2010.
> CHINAPLAS 2010, Shanghai, China, Booth No. W5R51, April 19-22, 2010.
>
Reply by Mukund Deshmukh●February 19, 20102010-02-19
> Are Indian Colleges so much different than western
colleges ??
> Are Indian students so much different than western students ??
>
Unfortunately the answer to both question is YES.
The Indian universities use syllabus, which is 10 years behind. The good old
8085 is still taught in colleges!
Secondly the student career depends on only one yearly examination, and
marks obtained in that. So they study with the sole intention of scoring
marks, and not to understand the subject.
This picture holds good for 90% of universities, barring IIT ( Indian
Institutes of Technology).
Warm Regards,
Mukund Deshmukh,
Beta Computronics Pvt Ltd,
10/1 IT Park,
Nagpur -440022, India.
Meet us at....
TAIPEIPLAS 2010, Taipei, Taiwan, Booth No I407, March 5-9, 2010.
CHINAPLAS 2010, Shanghai, China, Booth No. W5R51, April 19-22, 2010.
Reply by rtstofer●February 18, 20102010-02-18
--- In l..., Xiaofan Chen wrote: >
> Just my two cents...
>
> I am in Singapore where we have quite some colleagues from
> India. I think they are actually quite good. Sometimes I have
> a bit problem to understand their accent but other than that
> they are just as good as an engineer.
I think highly of the graduates of your National University. It was my great
privilege to live in Singapore for 15 months and be the primary
engineer/designer of the original Chartered Semiconductor plant across the
street from the SISR building on Science Park Drive (1988-89).
I worked with many NUS graduates and their depth of knowledge was impressive. I
don't think any of them needed help with their senior projects.
Richard
Reply by Xiaofan Chen●February 18, 20102010-02-18
On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 8:24 AM, Donald H wrote: >> > I am doing my final year of engineering 4th year
last sem BTech ECE.
>>
>> You are saying you were studying four years now ? Oh, god, if you did not
>> learn how to use a calculator and google by now you are in a big trouble.
>
> Every time I see a question like this (final year project), I wonder what
happened
> in the past 3 1/2 years.
>
> Are Indian Colleges so much different than western colleges ??
> Are Indian students so much different than western students ??
>
> I know the OP will not be able to answer these questions,
> but is there any one in India that can explain these things to the
> rest of the world !!
Just my two cents...
I am in Singapore where we have quite some colleagues from
India. I think they are actually quite good. Sometimes I have
a bit problem to understand their accent but other than that
they are just as good as an engineer.
There are many colleges in India, especially engineering ones.
The percentages of engineering student in India (and China)
are much more than that in western world. So I am sure
there are students so that great. Actually sometimes it is
due to communication problems. In this case, I am not sure
though.
To be honest, I have seen clueless students
from other part of the world as well. And I was once a Teaching
Assistant in a top 50 US university (a public one), at the first
lesson, I asked the students to connect the HP/Agilent
DC power supply to get 30V output (something like
this: http://www.home.agilent.com/agilent/product.jspx?pn=e3631a,
where you have one +25 and one -25V supply). Of the 30+
students, only a handful one could do this. They were 4th
Electrical Engineering students... I spent a lot of time
to teach them soldering and other basic knolwledge
like using the scopes and other instruments.
On the other hand, then I went to another private one,
the 4th year undergraduates seem to be much better.
So far, I have the best impressions with the continental
Europe students (especially Germany and Italy). They
have solid thretical background yet are also quite fast
in learning the pratical aspects of Engineering.
--- In l..., 42Bastian wrote: >
> shipra schrieb:
>
> > I am doing my final year of engineering 4th year last sem BTech ECE.
>
> You are saying you were studying four years now ? Oh, god, if you did not
> learn how to use a calculator and google by now you are in a big trouble.
Every time I see a question like this (final year project), I wonder what
happened in the past 3 1/2 years.
Are Indian Colleges so much different than western colleges ??
Are Indian students so much different than western students ??
I know the OP will not be able to answer these questions,
but is there any one in India that can explain these things to the rest of the
world !!
Thank You
--- In l..., shipra garg wrote: >
> Please could you suggest other method to do the same.
> Thanks
You are not going to run any version of Linux or uCLinux on a chip as small as
the LPC2103.
You can run FreeRTOS if you really need an real-time OS but I'm not sure
why you would need it.
You don't have any external memory bus with an LPC2103 so you can't
connect a memory-mapped camera. You can connect a serial camera like
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~cmucam/
