<beoriginal@hotmail.com> skrev i meddelandet
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> Ulf Samuelsson wrote:
>> beoriginal@hotmail.com wrote:
>> >
>> > So ... what's the story on availability with these parts?
>> >
>> > How about STK1000 availability?
>> >
>> > -john
>
> [... misc good stuff snipped ...]
>
> Thanks for the information, Ulf. I might just order a
> STK1000 to play with.
>
>> Current plans for production (rev B) is autumn.
>
> Well, it's kind of hard to make any plans about using these
> parts without knowing when we'll be able to get them in
> volume...
If you are looking for 10ku, then autumn should be OK, 100ku, then later.
Then again, I remember reading the book "Pandoras Planet"...
Fleet Admiral of Alien force invading the Earth: "I hear everything is
going according to plans...."
Colonel in the invasion force: "Yes,
unfortunately not according to OUR plans..."
> Thanks again,
> -john
>
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Best Regards,
Ulf Samuelsson
This is intended to be my personal opinion which may,
or may bot be shared by my employer Atmel Nordic AB
Reply by Ulf Samuelsson●April 28, 20062006-04-28
"Uwe Bonnes" <bon@hertz.ikp.physik.tu-darmstadt.de> skrev i meddelandet
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> beoriginal@hotmail.com wrote:
>> Ulf Samuelsson wrote:
>> > beoriginal@hotmail.com wrote:
>> > >
>> > > So ... what's the story on availability with these parts?
>> > >
>> > > How about STK1000 availability?
>> > >
>> > > -john
>
>> [... misc good stuff snipped ...]
>
>> Thanks for the information, Ulf. I might just order a
>> STK1000 to play with.
>
>> > Current plans for production (rev B) is autumn.
>
>> Well, it's kind of hard to make any plans about using these
>> parts without knowing when we'll be able to get them in
>> volume...
>
> Anybody not being a big volume customer should remember that Atmel has a
> long History of early announcements ...
>
Samples of the AVR32 became available in less than a month after the
announcement of the chip.
Dev boards will start to ship to customers (in distribution) in less than a
month after announcement.
Runs Linux, has a gcc compiler and a low cost emulator (which many people
already own).
Maybe someone is learning.
--
Best Regards,
Ulf Samuelsson
This is intended to be my personal opinion which may,
or may bot be shared by my employer Atmel Nordic AB
Reply by Ulf Samuelsson●April 27, 20062006-04-27
>> Thanks for the information, Ulf. I might just order a
>> STK1000 to play with.
>
>>> Current plans for production (rev B) is autumn.
>
>> Well, it's kind of hard to make any plans about using these
>> parts without knowing when we'll be able to get them in
>> volume...
>
> Anybody not being a big volume customer should remember that Atmel
> has a long History of early announcements ...
The AVR32 was announced mid Feb 2006.
The AP7000 chip was announced April 3.
Samples are available within a month after the announcement.
Linux 2.6.14 + GCC was available at announcement.
Many customers already have an AVR32 emulator (JTAGICE Mk II)
Development board will be shipped to customers within a month from the
announcement.
There is 4-5 weeks leadtime on the STK1000 right now, but that will
hopefully go down.
At least the AVR32 track record is nice so far.
--
Best Regards,
Ulf Samuelsson
ulf@a-t-m-e-l.com
This message is intended to be my own personal view and it
may or may not be shared by my employer Atmel Nordic AB
Reply by Uwe Bonnes●April 26, 20062006-04-26
beoriginal@hotmail.com wrote:
> Ulf Samuelsson wrote:
> > beoriginal@hotmail.com wrote:
> > >
> > > So ... what's the story on availability with these parts?
> > >
> > > How about STK1000 availability?
> > >
> > > -john
> [... misc good stuff snipped ...]
> Thanks for the information, Ulf. I might just order a
> STK1000 to play with.
> > Current plans for production (rev B) is autumn.
> Well, it's kind of hard to make any plans about using these
> parts without knowing when we'll be able to get them in
> volume...
Anybody not being a big volume customer should remember that Atmel has a
long History of early announcements ...
--
Uwe Bonnes bon@elektron.ikp.physik.tu-darmstadt.de
Institut fuer Kernphysik Schlossgartenstrasse 9 64289 Darmstadt
--------- Tel. 06151 162516 -------- Fax. 06151 164321 ----------
Reply by ●April 26, 20062006-04-26
Ulf Samuelsson wrote:
> beoriginal@hotmail.com wrote:
> >
> > So ... what's the story on availability with these parts?
> >
> > How about STK1000 availability?
> >
> > -john
[... misc good stuff snipped ...]
Thanks for the information, Ulf. I might just order a
STK1000 to play with.
> Current plans for production (rev B) is autumn.
Well, it's kind of hard to make any plans about using these
parts without knowing when we'll be able to get them in
volume...
Thanks again,
-john
Reply by Tom Lucas●April 26, 20062006-04-26
"John Devereux" <jdREMOVE@THISdevereux.me.uk> wrote in message
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> "Tom Lucas" <news@REMOVEautoTOflameREPLY.clara.co.uk> writes:
>
>
>> I use the 79524 and I quite like it. It seems a bit more evolved and
>> civilised that the '20 but its user guide isn't as good and I think
>> there's
>> something wrong with the UART on A0 silicon.
>
> Hmm, BGA I see. We have not done BGA yet... then again the 0.4mm pitch
> TQFP on the 79520 was a bit of an adventure. Did not help that
> *someone* designed the prototype PCB for 0.5mm, by mistake. Ahem. It
> is still the single largest cause of production problems so perhaps
> BGA would end up easier anyway.
>
They're alright until you want to get one off - heat guns, chisels and foul
language required. BGAs are the future but I wouldn't attempt to use one
without good JTAG debug capabilities or I'd work in sufficient quantities
that I could throw away anything that might be at all tricky to diagnose.
Reply by Ulf Samuelsson●April 26, 20062006-04-26
beoriginal@hotmail.com wrote:
> Ulf Samuelsson wrote:
>> pbdelete@spamnuke.ludd.luthdelete.se.invalid wrote:
>>> Anyone seen a lowcost tft controller with ethernet interface ..?
>>>
>>> Preferably flat physical layout.
>>
>>
>> The AP7000 (AVR32 based) has dual Ethernet and LCD control.
>> (You will lose one of the Ethernet ports if you use the LCD though)
>> Runs Linux 2.6.14.
>
> So ... what's the story on availability with these parts?
>
> How about STK1000 availability?
>
> -john
Have got an STK1000 since before Easter running Linux 2.6.14.
Main application shown off is "mplayer" running some movie trailers on the
QVGA LCD.
It boots U-Boot from the internal flash, but the file system is on an
SD-Card.
There will be a new batch next week but thats already booked,
many to equip the sales force, but at least some of that will ship to
customers.
Next batch of STK1000 after that is coming end of May.
Samples of the AP7000 are available but max 2 per customer at the moment.
Current plans for production (rev B) is autumn.
The reason for rev B is mainly that the part draws a little too much
current.
The CD contains source code for building U-Boot, the gcc compiler toolsuite
and the Linux.
There is a Cygwin installation which allows building under Windows and some
scripts
which should allow building under Linux.
Only have a prerelease CD, so cannot say what will be on the full release...
If you get one, be careful with the power supply. The polarity of the power
connector
is reverse of that of the STK500.
--
Best Regards,
Ulf Samuelsson
ulf@a-t-m-e-l.com
This message is intended to be my own personal view and it
may or may not be shared by my employer Atmel Nordic AB
Reply by ●April 25, 20062006-04-25
Ulf Samuelsson wrote:
> pbdelete@spamnuke.ludd.luthdelete.se.invalid wrote:
> > Anyone seen a lowcost tft controller with ethernet interface ..?
> >
> > Preferably flat physical layout.
>
>
> The AP7000 (AVR32 based) has dual Ethernet and LCD control.
> (You will lose one of the Ethernet ports if you use the LCD though)
> Runs Linux 2.6.14.
So ... what's the story on availability with these parts?
How about STK1000 availability?
-john
> Anyone seen a lowcost tft controller with ethernet interface ..?
>
> Preferably flat physical layout.
The AP7000 (AVR32 based) has dual Ethernet and LCD control.
(You will lose one of the Ethernet ports if you use the LCD though)
Runs Linux 2.6.14.
--
Best Regards,
Ulf Samuelsson
ulf@a-t-m-e-l.com
This message is intended to be my own personal view and it
may or may not be shared by my employer Atmel Nordic AB
> I use the 79524 and I quite like it. It seems a bit more evolved and
> civilised that the '20 but its user guide isn't as good and I think there's
> something wrong with the UART on A0 silicon.
Hmm, BGA I see. We have not done BGA yet... then again the 0.4mm pitch
TQFP on the 79520 was a bit of an adventure. Did not help that
*someone* designed the prototype PCB for 0.5mm, by mistake. Ahem. It
is still the single largest cause of production problems so perhaps
BGA would end up easier anyway.
--
John Devereux