"Mike Noone" <nleahcim@gmail.com> wrote in message 
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> rickman wrote:
>> I looked on the Atmel site, but I didn't find anything.  Anyone know if
>> Atmel makes symbols for their parts available?
>
> They have BDSL and IBIS models on the at91.com site - isn't one of
> those an Orcad part file? I don't know as I don't use orcad.
>
> -Mike

Where are they? I just cant seem to be able to find them out.

JaaC 



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In article <xny7wrzg0a.fsf@delorie.com>, dj@delorie.com says...
> 
> Mark Borgerson <mborgerson.at.comcast.net> writes:
> 
> > SO, tell me,  was there a symbol for the Triton LP module, or simply a 
> > different way to type in the 144 pins and functions for that module?
> 
> Just a different way to create symbols.  With text formats, you can
> create tools that do *your* repetitive tasks quickly.
> 
> > It seems that no matter how easy the input form,  you still end up
> > typing in a lot of pin numbers and pin definitions unless someone else
> > has published the same work.
> 
> We try to cut and paste from the PDFs to create the input files,
> though.  Even if you have to manually enter each pin, it's still a
> *LOT* faster than using a GUI to do it.
> 
> > Do the GEDSymbols.org data formats translate directly to PADS Logic
> > 2K5 symbols?
> 
> No, they're for the gEDA tools.  I was merely pointing out why open
> file formats are important.
> 
> If you can find a detailed enough spec for PADS symbols, a converter
> can probably be created.  Converting to and from gEDA symbols is easy;
> it's converting to and from proprietary formats that's hard.
> 
Thanks for the clue.  I checked the help menu for PADS layout and
found  a PDF document titled "PADS Parts Library ASCII File Format
Specification"    Yet another new thing to learn about PADS.  I'm
still in my first 6 months with this package.   I got PADS because
several important customers use it.  It's been work learning it,
but it seems versatile, stable and well integrated with the
schematic capture and low-level autorouter that came with the
layou package.   Someday soon I hope to learn  to use the
scripting and macro facilities.  I suspect that they would simplify
the parts entry procedures.

Mark Borgerson

Mark Borgerson <mborgerson.at.comcast.net> writes:

> SO, tell me,  was there a symbol for the Triton LP module, or simply a 
> different way to type in the 144 pins and functions for that module?

Just a different way to create symbols.  With text formats, you can
create tools that do *your* repetitive tasks quickly.

> It seems that no matter how easy the input form,  you still end up
> typing in a lot of pin numbers and pin definitions unless someone else
> has published the same work.

We try to cut and paste from the PDFs to create the input files,
though.  Even if you have to manually enter each pin, it's still a
*LOT* faster than using a GUI to do it.

> Do the GEDSymbols.org data formats translate directly to PADS Logic
> 2K5 symbols?

No, they're for the gEDA tools.  I was merely pointing out why open
file formats are important.

If you can find a detailed enough spec for PADS symbols, a converter
can probably be created.  Converting to and from gEDA symbols is easy;
it's converting to and from proprietary formats that's hard.

In article <xnbqto148o.fsf@delorie.com>, dj@delorie.com says...
> 
> Mark Borgerson <mborgerson.at.comcast.net> writes:
> > At my level (without newly-graduated junior engineers for scut work)
> > making up symbols and footprints can sometimes be a real inhibiting
> > factor.  
> > 
> > (Yes,  I did generate about 300 pins worth of new symbols this last
> > week----and I wish  I'd had that time for something else!)
> 
> Yet another benefit of text formats:
> 
> http://www.gedasymbols.org/user/dj_delorie/tools/djboxsym.html
> 
> There's even an online interactive version:
> 
> http://vivara.net/cgi-bin/djboxsym.cgi
> 
SO, tell me,  was there a symbol for the Triton LP module, or simply a 
different way to type in the 144 pins and functions for that module?
It seems that no matter how easy the input form,  you still end up
typing in a lot of pin numbers and pin definitions unless someone else
has published the same work.

Do the GEDSymbols.org  data formats translate directly to PADS Logic
2K5 symbols?  If not, I've wasted my time investigating them.  If they 
do, where do I find the Triton LP data, and how do I translate it?


Mark Borgerson

Mark Borgerson <mborgerson.at.comcast.net> writes:
> At my level (without newly-graduated junior engineers for scut work)
> making up symbols and footprints can sometimes be a real inhibiting
> factor.  
> 
> (Yes,  I did generate about 300 pins worth of new symbols this last
> week----and I wish  I'd had that time for something else!)

Yet another benefit of text formats:

http://www.gedasymbols.org/user/dj_delorie/tools/djboxsym.html

There's even an online interactive version:

http://vivara.net/cgi-bin/djboxsym.cgi

In article <fdednVTDh75e2u7ZRVn-jg@omsoft.com>, jstewart@jkmicro.com 
says...
> rickman wrote:
> > I looked on the Atmel site, but I didn't find anything.  Anyone know if
> > Atmel makes symbols for their parts available?
> 
> Making your own symbols builds character (:

And it's the part that I always have trouble convincing my customers
to pay for!   Every time I start a new project, I have to tell the
customer that it will require a few days to set up the new parts
in PADS (or ORCAD, or whatever).  It's billable time, it feeds
the family, but it is hardly the interesting part of starting
a new design.   Converting data sheet pin numbers and functions
to schematic symbols, then matching them to a PCB layout footprint
is one of the least glamorous element of embedded computer design.

At my level (without newly-graduated junior engineers for scut work)
making up symbols and footprints can sometimes be a real inhibiting
factor.  

(Yes,  I did generate about 300 pins worth of new symbols this last
week----and I wish  I'd had that time for something else!)

Mark Borgerson

Atmel has Orcad files on www.at91.com which have the symbols.

 Hit the Kit button then the kit for the part you want about half way down 
the new
page are the zip design files for Orcad and the gerber files

"Mike Noone" <nleahcim@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:1148420687.854243.284010@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> rickman wrote:
>> I looked on the Atmel site, but I didn't find anything.  Anyone know if
>> Atmel makes symbols for their parts available?
>
> They have BDSL and IBIS models on the at91.com site - isn't one of
> those an Orcad part file? I don't know as I don't use orcad.
>
> -Mike
>

rickman wrote:
> I looked on the Atmel site, but I didn't find anything.  Anyone know if
> Atmel makes symbols for their parts available?

They have BDSL and IBIS models on the at91.com site - isn't one of
those an Orcad part file? I don't know as I don't use orcad.

-Mike

"rickman" <spamgoeshere4@yahoo.com> skrev i meddelandet 
news:1148403730.574485.149140@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>I looked on the Atmel site, but I didn't find anything.  Anyone know if
> Atmel makes symbols for their parts available?
>

I have made Altium symbols, if it is of any help.
Also check www.at91.com

-- 
Best Regards,
Ulf Samuelsson
This is intended to be my personal opinion which may,
or may not be shared by my employer Atmel Nordic AB