Posted by Oliver Betz November 9, 2004
Joerg <notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote:

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>I haven't tried Yahoo yet because I didn't like their sign-up process >but as for vendor forums and other fancy interfaces I have yet to see >anything that is as efficient as Usenet.
you can subscribe top most Yahoo! groups via mail without a Yahoo! ID (IOW sign-up), just like any other "standard" mailing list. Only to access the file areas etc. of most Yahoo! groups, you need an ID. A bit complicated, but no real problem, although I (suspicious/paranoid) use a specific mail address for it. A mailing list is IMHO nearly as efficient as a newsgroup. Oliver -- Oliver Betz, Muenchen (oliverbetz.de)
Posted by Rusty Wright November 9, 2004
The yahoo groups are quite nice actually.  You can use them either as
a conventional mailing list or read the messages via the web
interface.  The Files, Photos, Calendar, etc. functions make it very
handy for clubs and many other special interest groups.

Joerg <notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> writes:

> Hi Kelly, > > > Many of the products/packages I use are well-supported via mailing > > lists, vendor-hosted web forums, and 3rd-party (Yahoo!) hosted web > > forums. Add in the various RSS-based forums I read, and there's not a > > lot of need for me to keep reading Usenet other than old habits. > > > I haven't tried Yahoo yet because I didn't like their sign-up process > but as for vendor forums and other fancy interfaces I have yet to see > anything that is as efficient as Usenet. > > > That's not to say that I don't appreciate the charms of Usenet - I > > find most web forums bland, visually noisy, and the GUIs mostly suck. > > A good newsreader is a wonderful tool. > > > Indeed it is. Many 'modern' forums are outright useless. > Over-sophisticated and way too slow. > > Regards, Joerg > > http://www.analogconsultants.com
Posted by Joerg November 8, 2004
Hi Rusty,

>My impression is that most people don't even know that usenet exists; >all they're aware of is the web, and therefore web forums. Think >about it; they have a question and what do they do: a google or yahoo >search. > >
That is also my impression. Some people don't know what Usenet is, others think it is a remnant of the hippie era. Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com
Posted by Joerg November 8, 2004
Hi Kelly,

> Many of the products/packages I use are well-supported via mailing > lists, vendor-hosted web forums, and 3rd-party (Yahoo!) hosted web > forums. Add in the various RSS-based forums I read, and there's not a > lot of need for me to keep reading Usenet other than old habits.
I haven't tried Yahoo yet because I didn't like their sign-up process but as for vendor forums and other fancy interfaces I have yet to see anything that is as efficient as Usenet.
> That's not to say that I don't appreciate the charms of Usenet - I > find most web forums bland, visually noisy, and the GUIs mostly suck. > A good newsreader is a wonderful tool.
Indeed it is. Many 'modern' forums are outright useless. Over-sophisticated and way too slow. Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com
Posted by Rusty Wright November 5, 2004
My impression is that most people don't even know that usenet exists;
all they're aware of is the web, and therefore web forums.  Think
about it; they have a question and what do they do: a google or yahoo
search.

Joerg <notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> writes:

> Hi Kelly, > > > Usenet is a lot less vibrant and useful than it used to be. ... > > Why do you think that this is happening? I am pretty new to usenet but I > find it a great community where top notch tech stuff is being discussed. > Could it be that younger engineers simply don't know about it? > > Regards, Joerg > > http://www.analogconsultants.com
Posted by Kelly Hall November 5, 2004
Joerg wrote:
> Why do you think that this is happening? I am pretty new to usenet but I > find it a great community where top notch tech stuff is being discussed. > Could it be that younger engineers simply don't know about it?
Well, I find it less vibrant and less useful than I once did. I can't state conclusively whether this is because I'm older and crustier or if Usenet sucks more. Many of the products/packages I use are well-supported via mailing lists, vendor-hosted web forums, and 3rd-party (Yahoo!) hosted web forums. Add in the various RSS-based forums I read, and there's not a lot of need for me to keep reading Usenet other than old habits. That's not to say that I don't appreciate the charms of Usenet - I find most web forums bland, visually noisy, and the GUIs mostly suck. A good newsreader is a wonderful tool. Kelly
Posted by Joerg November 4, 2004
Hi Kelly,

> Usenet is a lot less vibrant and useful than it used to be. ...
Why do you think that this is happening? I am pretty new to usenet but I find it a great community where top notch tech stuff is being discussed. Could it be that younger engineers simply don't know about it? Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com
Posted by Thierry Moreau November 4, 2004
"Paul Helmuth" <PaulHelmuth@SprintMail.com> wrote in message
news:<Ndjid.2331$Gm6.2221@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>...
> All, > > Just wondering if there was enough interest in the Motorola PowerPC chips to > set up a separate newsgroup? > > I am assuming that there isn't one already, because I haven't seen a PowerPC > group on the two servers that I use. > > If there is enough interest (based on replies), I'll go through the exercise > of trying to get one created. > > Thanks, > Paul Helmuth > HP/SS Automotive
Look at group comp.sys.powerpc.tech, it's there. - Thierry Moreau
Posted by HG November 4, 2004
Kelly Hall <khall@acm.org> wrote in message
news:<X%kid.17660$6q2.8396@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com>...
> Paul Helmuth wrote: > > Just wondering if there was enough interest in the Motorola PowerPC chips to > > set up a separate newsgroup? > > Don't bother. Just post about embedded PowerPC stuff in > comp.arch.embedded and see what happens. > > Creating officially sanctioned Usenet groups is time consuming and > annoying. Discussion phases, voting phases, etc. These sorts of hoops > were justified when Usenet was more popular, and a general group had so > much daily traffic that it made sense to create specialized children. > > Usenet is a lot less vibrant and useful than it used to be. If you need > a special purpose group, let Yahoo! host it for you. If you find the > Yahoo! terms and conditions prohibitive, host a web forum on your own > hardware. > > My two cents, > Kelly
there is one comp.sys.powerpc.tech or via google at http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&safe=off&group=comp.sys.powerpc.tech
Posted by Andy Sinclair November 4, 2004
Paul Helmuth wrote:
>Just wondering if there was enough interest in the Motorola PowerPC chips to >set up a separate newsgroup? > >I am assuming that there isn't one already, because I haven't seen a PowerPC >group on the two servers that I use.
Try comp.sys.powerpc.tech Andy