Joerg <notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote:

[...]

>I haven't tried Yahoo yet because I didn't like their sign-up process 
>but as for vendor forums and other fancy interfaces I have yet to see 
>anything that is as efficient as Usenet.

you can subscribe top most Yahoo! groups via mail without a Yahoo! ID
(IOW sign-up), just like any other "standard" mailing list.

Only to access the file areas etc. of most Yahoo! groups, you need an
ID. A bit complicated, but no real problem, although I
(suspicious/paranoid) use a specific mail address for it.

A mailing list is IMHO nearly as efficient as a newsgroup.

Oliver
-- 
Oliver Betz, Muenchen (oliverbetz.de)

The yahoo groups are quite nice actually.  You can use them either as
a conventional mailing list or read the messages via the web
interface.  The Files, Photos, Calendar, etc. functions make it very
handy for clubs and many other special interest groups.

Joerg <notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> writes:

> Hi Kelly,
> 
> > Many of the products/packages I use are well-supported via mailing 
> > lists, vendor-hosted web forums, and 3rd-party (Yahoo!) hosted web 
> > forums.  Add in the various RSS-based forums I read, and there's not a 
> > lot of need for me to keep reading Usenet other than old habits.
> 
> 
> I haven't tried Yahoo yet because I didn't like their sign-up process 
> but as for vendor forums and other fancy interfaces I have yet to see 
> anything that is as efficient as Usenet.
> 
> > That's not to say that I don't appreciate the charms of Usenet - I 
> > find most web forums bland, visually noisy, and the GUIs mostly suck.  
> > A good newsreader is a wonderful tool.
> 
> 
> Indeed it is. Many 'modern' forums are outright useless. 
> Over-sophisticated and way too slow.
> 
> Regards, Joerg
> 
> http://www.analogconsultants.com

Hi Rusty,

>My impression is that most people don't even know that usenet exists;
>all they're aware of is the web, and therefore web forums.  Think
>about it; they have a question and what do they do: a google or yahoo
>search.
>  
>
That is also my impression. Some people don't know what Usenet is, 
others think it is a remnant of the hippie era.

Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com

Hi Kelly,

> Many of the products/packages I use are well-supported via mailing 
> lists, vendor-hosted web forums, and 3rd-party (Yahoo!) hosted web 
> forums.  Add in the various RSS-based forums I read, and there's not a 
> lot of need for me to keep reading Usenet other than old habits.


I haven't tried Yahoo yet because I didn't like their sign-up process 
but as for vendor forums and other fancy interfaces I have yet to see 
anything that is as efficient as Usenet.

> That's not to say that I don't appreciate the charms of Usenet - I 
> find most web forums bland, visually noisy, and the GUIs mostly suck.  
> A good newsreader is a wonderful tool.


Indeed it is. Many 'modern' forums are outright useless. 
Over-sophisticated and way too slow.

Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com

My impression is that most people don't even know that usenet exists;
all they're aware of is the web, and therefore web forums.  Think
about it; they have a question and what do they do: a google or yahoo
search.

Joerg <notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> writes:

> Hi Kelly,
> 
> > Usenet is a lot less vibrant and useful than it used to be. ...
> 
> Why do you think that this is happening? I am pretty new to usenet but I 
> find it a great community where top notch tech stuff is being discussed. 
> Could it be that younger engineers simply don't know about it?
> 
> Regards, Joerg
> 
> http://www.analogconsultants.com

Joerg wrote:
> Why do you think that this is happening? I am pretty new to usenet but I 
> find it a great community where top notch tech stuff is being discussed. 
> Could it be that younger engineers simply don't know about it?

Well, I find it less vibrant and less useful than I once did.  I can't 
state conclusively whether this is because I'm older and crustier or if 
Usenet sucks more.

Many of the products/packages I use are well-supported via mailing 
lists, vendor-hosted web forums, and 3rd-party (Yahoo!) hosted web 
forums.  Add in the various RSS-based forums I read, and there's not a 
lot of need for me to keep reading Usenet other than old habits.

That's not to say that I don't appreciate the charms of Usenet - I find 
most web forums bland, visually noisy, and the GUIs mostly suck.  A good 
newsreader is a wonderful tool.

Kelly

Hi Kelly,

> Usenet is a lot less vibrant and useful than it used to be. ...

Why do you think that this is happening? I am pretty new to usenet but I 
find it a great community where top notch tech stuff is being discussed. 
Could it be that younger engineers simply don't know about it?

Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com

"Paul Helmuth" <PaulHelmuth@SprintMail.com> wrote in message news:<Ndjid.2331$Gm6.2221@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>...
> All,
> 
> Just wondering if there was enough interest in the Motorola PowerPC chips to 
> set up a separate newsgroup?
> 
> I am assuming that there isn't one already, because I haven't seen a PowerPC 
> group on the two servers that I use.
> 
> If there is enough interest (based on replies), I'll go through the exercise 
> of trying to get one created.
> 
> Thanks,
> Paul Helmuth
> HP/SS Automotive

Look at group comp.sys.powerpc.tech, it's there.

- Thierry Moreau

Kelly Hall <khall@acm.org> wrote in message news:<X%kid.17660$6q2.8396@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com>...
> Paul Helmuth wrote:
> > Just wondering if there was enough interest in the Motorola PowerPC chips to 
> > set up a separate newsgroup?
> 
> Don't bother.  Just post about embedded PowerPC stuff in 
> comp.arch.embedded and see what happens.
> 
> Creating officially sanctioned Usenet groups is time consuming and 
> annoying.  Discussion phases, voting phases, etc.  These sorts of hoops 
> were justified when Usenet was more popular, and a general group had so 
> much daily traffic that it made sense to create specialized children.
> 
> Usenet is a lot less vibrant and useful than it used to be.  If you need 
> a special purpose group, let Yahoo! host it for you.  If you find the 
> Yahoo! terms and conditions prohibitive, host a web forum on your own 
> hardware.
> 
> My two cents,
> Kelly

there is one comp.sys.powerpc.tech or via google at
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&safe=off&group=comp.sys.powerpc.tech

Paul Helmuth wrote:
>Just wondering if there was enough interest in the Motorola PowerPC chips to 
>set up a separate newsgroup?
>
>I am assuming that there isn't one already, because I haven't seen a PowerPC 
>group on the two servers that I use.

Try comp.sys.powerpc.tech

Andy