> Guy Fawkes wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>Are there any (preferably free and/or open-source) IDE's for the ARM
>>processor similar to AVRStudio, for example?
>>
>>Guy
>>
>>
>>
>>--
>>Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>
>
>
>
> Try Nucleus EDGE eclipse based IDE
>
http://www.mentor.com/company/news/ati_edge_eclipse3.cfm : states
Pricing and Availability
Licenses for the complete Nucleus EDGE development suite begin at U.S.
$3,000 per seat.
The OP asked (preferably free and/or open-source).
I guess sales buys will try anything.
Reply by Tick●September 1, 20062006-09-01
Guy Fawkes wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Are there any (preferably free and/or open-source) IDE's for the ARM
> processor similar to AVRStudio, for example?
>
> Guy
>
>
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
Try Nucleus EDGE eclipse based IDE
Reply by Tick●September 1, 20062006-09-01
Guy Fawkes wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Are there any (preferably free and/or open-source) IDE's for the ARM
> processor similar to AVRStudio, for example?
>
> Guy
>
>
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
Try Nucleus EDGE eclipse based IDE
Reply by Paul Curtis●August 31, 20062006-08-31
"Leon" <leon.heller@bulldoghome.com> wrote in message
news:1157026455.659597.153480@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>
>> However, I don't have any experience with the Rowley USB device. I seem
>> to recall from memory that it might use an lpc214x device, and that
>> would seem like a good idea. It would be great if they let you burn new
>> firmware into the device as they make tweaks over time. This would help
>> to mitigate some of the problems I've seen with the simpler designs.
>
> I've got the Rowley device, it works very well. It probably uses a
> Cypress chip or something similar, that's all that is needed for JTAG.
Our current CrossConnect uses an LPC2106. Our Embedded CrossConnect and a
new prototype CrossConnect uses LPC214x. We are looking at the STR9 as a
candidate also, but performance of ARM9-based STR9 at 96MHz is lower than
the ARM7-based 60MHz LPC2000 in general use.
-- Paul.
Reply by Leon●August 31, 20062006-08-31
Eric wrote:
> > We found the Rowley debugger to be just awful. It was buggy and locked up
> > the PC repeatedly. The only recovery was a reboot.
>
> Did you use the Rowley USB JTAG device? I've used a lot of USB JTAG
> devices for various chip families, and the whole class of devices seems
> to have "issues". I have to reconnect the USB cable way too many times
> - life shouldn't be this bad.
>
> Part of the problem is the Windows drivers, and part of the problem is
> the limited ability of the programmable logic chips to discover
> problems and re-syncronize. It seems to me that we should have all data
> sent over the USB in frames and protected by a checksum or CRC. Then
> the JTAG device and the PC could detect and correct problems, and even
> re-syncronize without manual efforts required by users (us).
>
> However, I don't have any experience with the Rowley USB device. I seem
> to recall from memory that it might use an lpc214x device, and that
> would seem like a good idea. It would be great if they let you burn new
> firmware into the device as they make tweaks over time. This would help
> to mitigate some of the problems I've seen with the simpler designs.
I've got the Rowley device, it works very well. It probably uses a
Cypress chip or something similar, that's all that is needed for JTAG.
Leon
Reply by Tom Lucas●August 31, 20062006-08-31
"Eric" <englere_geo@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1156958443.761773.252240@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>
>> We found the Rowley debugger to be just awful. It was buggy and
>> locked up
>> the PC repeatedly. The only recovery was a reboot.
>
> Did you use the Rowley USB JTAG device? I've used a lot of USB JTAG
> devices for various chip families, and the whole class of devices
> seems
> to have "issues". I have to reconnect the USB cable way too many times
> - life shouldn't be this bad.
I've used the Rowley CrossConnect JTAG device and it has never caused
the PC any problems. On some occasions, if there is a major problem on
the target then the CrossConnect can fail to recover from the error and
needs to be reconnected. Very rarely I had to restart the IDE as well.
I've never seen the PC lock up from it though and the worst that has
happened is that the IDE crashes itself.
Reply by Eric●August 30, 20062006-08-30
> We found the Rowley debugger to be just awful. It was buggy and locked up
> the PC repeatedly. The only recovery was a reboot.
Did you use the Rowley USB JTAG device? I've used a lot of USB JTAG
devices for various chip families, and the whole class of devices seems
to have "issues". I have to reconnect the USB cable way too many times
- life shouldn't be this bad.
Part of the problem is the Windows drivers, and part of the problem is
the limited ability of the programmable logic chips to discover
problems and re-syncronize. It seems to me that we should have all data
sent over the USB in frames and protected by a checksum or CRC. Then
the JTAG device and the PC could detect and correct problems, and even
re-syncronize without manual efforts required by users (us).
However, I don't have any experience with the Rowley USB device. I seem
to recall from memory that it might use an lpc214x device, and that
would seem like a good idea. It would be great if they let you burn new
firmware into the device as they make tweaks over time. This would help
to mitigate some of the problems I've seen with the simpler designs.
Eric
Reply by Leon●August 29, 20062006-08-29
Not Really Me wrote:
> "Leon" <leon.heller@bulldoghome.com> wrote in message
> news:1156845994.030620.153060@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > Not Really Me wrote:
> >> "Leon" <leon.heller@bulldoghome.com> wrote in message
> >> news:1156690301.377327.153470@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
> >> >
> >> > Guy Fawkes wrote:
> >> >> Hi,
> >> >>
> >> >> Are there any (preferably free and/or open-source) IDE's for the ARM
> >> >> processor similar to AVRStudio, for example?
> >> >>
> >> >> Guy
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
> >> >
> >> > It's not free, but Rowley Crossworks for ARM (based on the gcc
> >> > compiler) has a very nice IDE which includes a debugger and simulator.
> >> >
> >> > Leon
> >> >
> >> Microcross Visual X-Tools is also based on gcc and is much better than
> >> the
> >> Rowley tools.
> >
> > The Rowley debugger is much better than GDB, which Microcross uses.
> >
> > Leon
> >
> I think you are correct, it uses GDB, but our experience differs from yours.
> We found the Rowley debugger to be just awful. It was buggy and locked up
> the PC repeatedly. The only recovery was a reboot. I believe it is still
> the current version. It was only a few months ago that we used it.
>
> The Microcross implementation is much more stable. We have used it with
> both Multi-Ice and Abatron JTAG emulators.
I don't have any problems with the Rowley debugger.
Leon
Reply by Not Really Me●August 29, 20062006-08-29
"Leon" <leon.heller@bulldoghome.com> wrote in message
news:1156845994.030620.153060@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
>
> Not Really Me wrote:
>> "Leon" <leon.heller@bulldoghome.com> wrote in message
>> news:1156690301.377327.153470@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>> >
>> > Guy Fawkes wrote:
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> Are there any (preferably free and/or open-source) IDE's for the ARM
>> >> processor similar to AVRStudio, for example?
>> >>
>> >> Guy
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>> >
>> > It's not free, but Rowley Crossworks for ARM (based on the gcc
>> > compiler) has a very nice IDE which includes a debugger and simulator.
>> >
>> > Leon
>> >
>> Microcross Visual X-Tools is also based on gcc and is much better than
>> the
>> Rowley tools.
>
> The Rowley debugger is much better than GDB, which Microcross uses.
>
> Leon
>
I think you are correct, it uses GDB, but our experience differs from yours.
We found the Rowley debugger to be just awful. It was buggy and locked up
the PC repeatedly. The only recovery was a reboot. I believe it is still
the current version. It was only a few months ago that we used it.
The Microcross implementation is much more stable. We have used it with
both Multi-Ice and Abatron JTAG emulators.
Scott
Reply by Leon●August 29, 20062006-08-29
Not Really Me wrote:
> "Leon" <leon.heller@bulldoghome.com> wrote in message
> news:1156690301.377327.153470@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > Guy Fawkes wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Are there any (preferably free and/or open-source) IDE's for the ARM
> >> processor similar to AVRStudio, for example?
> >>
> >> Guy
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
> >
> > It's not free, but Rowley Crossworks for ARM (based on the gcc
> > compiler) has a very nice IDE which includes a debugger and simulator.
> >
> > Leon
> >
> Microcross Visual X-Tools is also based on gcc and is much better than the
> Rowley tools.
The Rowley debugger is much better than GDB, which Microcross uses.
Leon