Alf Katz wrote:
>
> You may well be talking about this link:
> http://www.qsm.com/Develop_12%20months.pdf#search=%22sloc%20team%20per%20year%22
>
> The 180 KSLOC/annum is in there.  This whole page tends to the optimistic,
> though, talking about projects that have been completed within 12 months,
> but does not compare the number of these projects to the number that have
> failed to complete within 12 (or 24 or 120) months.  I'd certainly not wager
> any important parts of my anatomy on the outcome of a project that put too
> much emphasis on these figures in its estimation.

A thousand thanks!  That's the one.  Now I'll read it again and see if
my quest was worth it.  I think it was mostly a case of "I just read
this and now I can't find it!".  Anyway, thanks for your help.

John Carter wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 12:47:09 -0700, Mike Silva wrote:
>
> > A few weeks ago I ran across a link to a study about how much software
> > (SLOC) could be produced by a team in a year.  If I remember the
> > figures right, team productivity declined after about 70,000 or 75,000
> > SLOC per year, with teams of 3 to 10 programmers, although larger teams
>
> An excellent place to start is with Dave Wheeler's sloccount. Follow the
> references on his site.
>
> Say sloccount to Google and you will be lucky.

Thanks for the reply.  Turns out the article I had in mind was the one
at www.qsm.com, but I found Dave Wheeler's stuff interesting also.

"Mike Silva" <snarflemike@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
news:1158263229.480407.50530@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
> Hello all,
>
> I first posted this on comp.programming and comp.software-eng but that
> thread instantly decayed into "LOC bad!" and then into a discussion
> about wearing sandals, with or without socks.  So I thought I'd try
> again in c.a.e.  Anyway, here's my original question:
>
> --------------------
>
> A few weeks ago I ran across a link to a study about how much software
> (SLOC) could be produced by a team in a year.  If I remember the
> figures right, team productivity declined after about 70,000 or 75,000
> SLOC per year, with teams of 3 to 10 programmers, although larger teams
>
> (up to 40 members IIRC) could produce up to 180,000 SLOC per year at a
> cost multiplier of between 1.5 (or 1.25) and 3.9.  Again, all of these
> are barely remembered figures.  Problem is, I can't remember how or
> where I found the study.  Might have been linked in a newsgroup
> article, but I can't be sure.
>
> Anyway, does this study ring a bell?  I'd like to find it again, and
> have enough sense to bookmark it if it is as interesting as I vaguely
> recall that it was.  Many thanks!
>

You may well be talking about this link: 
http://www.qsm.com/Develop_12%20months.pdf#search=%22sloc%20team%20per%20year%22

The 180 KSLOC/annum is in there.  This whole page tends to the optimistic, 
though, talking about projects that have been completed within 12 months, 
but does not compare the number of these projects to the number that have 
failed to complete within 12 (or 24 or 120) months.  I'd certainly not wager 
any important parts of my anatomy on the outcome of a project that put too 
much emphasis on these figures in its estimation.

Cheers,
Alf 

On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 12:47:09 -0700, Mike Silva wrote:

> I first posted this on comp.programming and comp.software-eng but that
> thread instantly decayed into "LOC bad!" and then into a discussion
> about wearing sandals, with or without socks. 

With socks! :-)


> A few weeks ago I ran across a link to a study about how much software
> (SLOC) could be produced by a team in a year.  If I remember the
> figures right, team productivity declined after about 70,000 or 75,000
> SLOC per year, with teams of 3 to 10 programmers, although larger teams

An excellent place to start is with Dave Wheeler's sloccount. Follow the
references on his site.

Say sloccount to Google and you will be lucky.

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Hello all,

I first posted this on comp.programming and comp.software-eng but that
thread instantly decayed into "LOC bad!" and then into a discussion
about wearing sandals, with or without socks.  So I thought I'd try
again in c.a.e.  Anyway, here's my original question:

--------------------

A few weeks ago I ran across a link to a study about how much software
(SLOC) could be produced by a team in a year.  If I remember the
figures right, team productivity declined after about 70,000 or 75,000
SLOC per year, with teams of 3 to 10 programmers, although larger teams

(up to 40 members IIRC) could produce up to 180,000 SLOC per year at a
cost multiplier of between 1.5 (or 1.25) and 3.9.  Again, all of these
are barely remembered figures.  Problem is, I can't remember how or
where I found the study.  Might have been linked in a newsgroup
article, but I can't be sure.

Anyway, does this study ring a bell?  I'd like to find it again, and
have enough sense to bookmark it if it is as interesting as I vaguely
recall that it was.  Many thanks!