Some of the new HCS12 families (HCS12 B, C, E and K families) support both 5V and 3.3V operation. The Nohau emulator indeed supports also Expanded modes and accessing external RAM. (I heard from customers it is the only HCS12 full emulator that supports both single-chip and expanded modes - all others can apparently support only single-chip modes). Hope this helps, Doron Nohau Corporation HC12 In-Circuit Emulators www.nohau.com/emul12pc.html At 16:56 12/02/2004 +0000, you wrote: >Thanks for you information, I'll take a look to your website. >By the way, I thought S12 was only working externally at 5V... > >Do you also support expanded modes (accessing external RAM) ? >--- In , Doron Fael <doronf@n...> wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I represent Nohau Corporation that carries both full-featured >emulator and > > BDM for the HC12 and HCS12 (STAR12) families. > > > > The Nohau full emulator offers the following advantages over BDMs >and other > > full emulators in the market: > > > > Support for all HCS12 derivatives (HCS12 A, B, C, D, E, H, K and T > > families), large trace buffer and sophisticated triggers, unlimited >number > > of hardware and software breakpoints, 3.3V and 5V operation to >25MHz > > bus-speed, extensive debug support through all HC12 operating >conditions, > > including - Resets, Power-Downs, full PLL support (including >frequent > > speed changes), and Limp-Home mode. Code execution is allowed both >using > > Emulation RAM (usually more convenient for debugging), or using the > > internal Flash of the micro (useful for late debug stages). > > > > Many target adapter options are offered, including ones with a high- >speed > > flex-cable that allows escaping from space-limited targets at any >of 4 > > directions - 0, 90, 180 and 270 degrease. > > > > If you like, you can find more information at: > > www.nohau.com/emul12pc.html > > > > You can also contact me off-list if you need more information or >would like > > to watch a web-based demo of the emulator. > > > > Hope this helps, > > Doron > > Nohau Corporation > > HC12 In-Circuit Emulators > > > > At 14:33 12/02/2004 +0000, you wrote: > > >Hello Everybody, > > > > > >We're searching an ICE for HCS12. Can anyone help us to give some > > >feedback for this ? > > >What are the major products available on the market ? > > > > > >Regards > > > > > > >--------------------To learn more >about Motorola Microcontrollers, please visit >http://www.motorola.com/mcu >o learn more about Motorola Microcontrollers, please visit >http://www.motorola.com/mcu > >Yahoo! Groups Links > >

I did a trade study on this very question last year. You can find it at www.toucantechnology.com. I would appreciate any feedback you might care to offer. Gary Olmstead Toucan Technology Ventura CA At 02:33 PM 2/12/04 +0000, you wrote: >Hello Everybody, > >We're searching an ICE for HCS12. Can anyone help us to give some >feedback for this ? >What are the major products available on the market ? > >Regards > > >--------------------To learn more about >Motorola Microcontrollers, please visit >http://www.motorola.com/mcu >o learn more about Motorola Microcontrollers, please visit >http://www.motorola.com/mcu > >Yahoo! Groups Links > >

I was searching from my side and finally found several In-circuit emulator manufacturers : - Nohau (as you mentionned) - Lauterbach - Hitex - iSYSTEM Any information about quality regarding cost ? --- In , "Steve-HighPoint" <sdillier@h...> wrote: > Regarding the ICE for HCS12. I have the embedded workbench from IAR and have had a number of difficulties with their CSpy debugger. Their compiler and linker is great and very flexible. It is much easier for me to use than the CodeWarrior products. I have recently switched to using the ICD12Z debugger from P&E. I use it with their ieee695 support for high level language debugging. I have had good success with their product. > > Your real decision will be deciding on a good tool chain for development thru debugging. Unfortunately there is not an industry leader that has a good solution from start to finish (at least in my humble opinion). There has been a good deal of discussion along these lines in this forum and there is a lot of good info in past dialogues that you might want to review. > > As far as debugging is concerned - the BDM mode for debugging is a little weak but it is economical and for the most part usable. You will need to get one of the debuggers to work well with your compiler/linker and then you will be OK. You have to remember a few things like the limited number of hardware breakpoints, most of the debuggers have a hard time if you use the pll to switch frequencies, some of them are limited to 16Mhz operation. Do a good check to make sure the tools are compatible with your project. You must budget time and money to get the tool set working well for you. > > If you have the money - buy a Nohau full blown ICE. Doron Fael of Nohau who works with us on this forum is extremely well informed and can get you going quickly. I had the full Nohau emulator for 68HC11 and it worked very well. > > Good luck !!! > > Steve Dillier > HighPoint Technology > ----- Original Message ----- > From: zwap31 > To: > Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 8:33 AM > Subject: [68HC12] ICE for MC9S12 > Hello Everybody, > > We're searching an ICE for HCS12. Can anyone help us to give some > feedback for this ? > What are the major products available on the market ? > > Regards > > > --------------------To learn more about Motorola Microcontrollers, please visit > http://www.motorola.com/mcu > o learn more about Motorola Microcontrollers, please visit > http://www.motorola.com/mcu > > > -------------------------------- ---------- > Yahoo! Groups Links > > a.. To

Thanks for you information, I'll take a look to your website. By the way, I thought S12 was only working externally at 5V... Do you also support expanded modes (accessing external RAM) ? --- In , Doron Fael <doronf@n...> wrote: > Hello, > > I represent Nohau Corporation that carries both full-featured emulator and > BDM for the HC12 and HCS12 (STAR12) families. > > The Nohau full emulator offers the following advantages over BDMs and other > full emulators in the market: > > Support for all HCS12 derivatives (HCS12 A, B, C, D, E, H, K and T > families), large trace buffer and sophisticated triggers, unlimited number > of hardware and software breakpoints, 3.3V and 5V operation to 25MHz > bus-speed, extensive debug support through all HC12 operating conditions, > including - Resets, Power-Downs, full PLL support (including frequent > speed changes), and Limp-Home mode. Code execution is allowed both using > Emulation RAM (usually more convenient for debugging), or using the > internal Flash of the micro (useful for late debug stages). > > Many target adapter options are offered, including ones with a high- speed > flex-cable that allows escaping from space-limited targets at any of 4 > directions - 0, 90, 180 and 270 degrease. > > If you like, you can find more information at: > www.nohau.com/emul12pc.html > > You can also contact me off-list if you need more information or would like > to watch a web-based demo of the emulator. > > Hope this helps, > Doron > Nohau Corporation > HC12 In-Circuit Emulators > > At 14:33 12/02/2004 +0000, you wrote: > >Hello Everybody, > > > >We're searching an ICE for HCS12. Can anyone help us to give some > >feedback for this ? > >What are the major products available on the market ? > > > >Regards >

Hello, I represent Nohau Corporation that carries both full-featured emulator and BDM for the HC12 and HCS12 (STAR12) families. The Nohau full emulator offers the following advantages over BDMs and other full emulators in the market: Support for all HCS12 derivatives (HCS12 A, B, C, D, E, H, K and T families), large trace buffer and sophisticated triggers, unlimited number of hardware and software breakpoints, 3.3V and 5V operation to 25MHz bus-speed, extensive debug support through all HC12 operating conditions, including - Resets, Power-Downs, full PLL support (including frequent speed changes), and Limp-Home mode. Code execution is allowed both using Emulation RAM (usually more convenient for debugging), or using the internal Flash of the micro (useful for late debug stages). Many target adapter options are offered, including ones with a high-speed flex-cable that allows escaping from space-limited targets at any of 4 directions - 0, 90, 180 and 270 degrease. If you like, you can find more information at: www.nohau.com/emul12pc.html You can also contact me off-list if you need more information or would like to watch a web-based demo of the emulator. Hope this helps, Doron Nohau Corporation HC12 In-Circuit Emulators At 14:33 12/02/2004 +0000, you wrote: >Hello Everybody, > >We're searching an ICE for HCS12. Can anyone help us to give some >feedback for this ? >What are the major products available on the market ? > >Regards

Regarding the ICE for HCS12. I have the embedded workbench from IAR and have had a number of difficulties with their CSpy debugger. Their compiler and linker is great and very flexible. It is much easier for me to use than the CodeWarrior products. I have recently switched to using the ICD12Z debugger from P&E. I use it with their ieee695 support for high level language debugging. I have had good success with their product. Your real decision will be deciding on a good tool chain for development thru debugging. Unfortunately there is not an industry leader that has a good solution from start to finish (at least in my humble opinion). There has been a good deal of discussion along these lines in this forum and there is a lot of good info in past dialogues that you might want to review. As far as debugging is concerned - the BDM mode for debugging is a little weak but it is economical and for the most part usable. You will need to get one of the debuggers to work well with your compiler/linker and then you will be OK. You have to remember a few things like the limited number of hardware breakpoints, most of the debuggers have a hard time if you use the pll to switch frequencies, some of them are limited to 16Mhz operation. Do a good check to make sure the tools are compatible with your project. You must budget time and money to get the tool set working well for you. If you have the money - buy a Nohau full blown ICE. Doron Fael of Nohau who works with us on this forum is extremely well informed and can get you going quickly. I had the full Nohau emulator for 68HC11 and it worked very well. Good luck !!! Steve Dillier HighPoint Technology ----- Original Message ----- From: zwap31 To: Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 8:33 AM Subject: [68HC12] ICE for MC9S12 Hello Everybody, We're searching an ICE for HCS12. Can anyone help us to give some feedback for this ? What are the major products available on the market ? Regards --------------------To learn more about Motorola Microcontrollers, please visit http://www.motorola.com/mcu o learn more about Motorola Microcontrollers, please visit http://www.motorola.com/mcu ------ Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To