> On 5 Feb 2007 09:07:42 -0800, "werty" <werty@swissinfo.org> wrote:
>
>> you cant start an ARM , its missing to much essential
>> firmware . Vendors want you to NOT know their h/w
>> so they steer you into a 50 MegaByte i.D.E. ,
>> to keep you distracted , and detour you away from
>> learning the essence of the ARM mcu .
>
> I thought people ran Linux and uClinux on ARM CPUs. They're free.
> I've heard it was done (Linux) on one project at my old job and saw it
> done (uClinux) first hand on another project.
>
> Figuring out how to use a JTAG debugger to burn the OS onto a bare
> flash of a new board is one of the fun parts.
>
> Vim is my IDE. :-)
>
GVim + ctags :-) (even on Windows !)
Hns
Reply by BubbaGump●February 7, 20072007-02-07
On 5 Feb 2007 09:07:42 -0800, "werty" <werty@swissinfo.org> wrote:
> you cant start an ARM , its missing to much essential
> firmware . Vendors want you to NOT know their h/w
> so they steer you into a 50 MegaByte i.D.E. ,
> to keep you distracted , and detour you away from
> learning the essence of the ARM mcu .
I thought people ran Linux and uClinux on ARM CPUs. They're free.
I've heard it was done (Linux) on one project at my old job and saw it
done (uClinux) first hand on another project.
Figuring out how to use a JTAG debugger to burn the OS onto a bare
flash of a new board is one of the fun parts.
Vim is my IDE. :-)
Reply by Iain McCracken●February 6, 20072007-02-06
Tom Lucas wrote:
> "CBFalconer" <cbfalconer@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:45C79A4C.8D0597DD@yahoo.com...
>> Tom Lucas wrote:
>>> "werty" <werty@swissinfo.org> wrote in message
>>>
>> ... snip ...
>>>> I will give a free Op Sys for ARM , it has not text ,
>>>> it boots in 0.1 second and has softkeys to program
>>>> it in seconds . you can create new code frags in
>>>> 3 seconds , test them in 5 seconds .
>>> If you spent more time coding and less time telling us what the
>>> code will do then you'll get it finished a lot sooner. Perhaps
>>> you should switch to decaff and it might help your concentration?
>> --
>>
>> +-------------------+ .:\:\:/:/:.
>> | PLEASE DO NOT F :.:\:\:/:/:.:
>> | FEED THE TROLLS | :=.' - - '.=:
>> | | '=(\ 9 9 /)='
>> | Thank you, | ( (_) )
>> | Management | /`-vvv-'\
>> +-------------------+ / \
>> | | @@@ / /|,,,,,|\ \
>> | | @@@ /_// /^\ \\_\
>> @x@@x@ | | |/ WW( ( ) )WW
>> \||||/ | | \| __\,,\ /,,/__
>> \||/ | | | jgs (______Y______)
>> /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\//\/\\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
>> ==============================================================
>
> He's not a troll - he's the World's Greatest Systems Programmer ;-)
Befriend the bear, he'll chase the troll away.
Reply by Tom Lucas●February 6, 20072007-02-06
"CBFalconer" <cbfalconer@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:45C79A4C.8D0597DD@yahoo.com...
> Tom Lucas wrote:
>> "werty" <werty@swissinfo.org> wrote in message
>>
> ... snip ...
>>>
>>> I will give a free Op Sys for ARM , it has not text ,
>>> it boots in 0.1 second and has softkeys to program
>>> it in seconds . you can create new code frags in
>>> 3 seconds , test them in 5 seconds .
>>
>> If you spent more time coding and less time telling us what the
>> code will do then you'll get it finished a lot sooner. Perhaps
>> you should switch to decaff and it might help your concentration?
>
> --
>
> +-------------------+ .:\:\:/:/:.
> | PLEASE DO NOT F :.:\:\:/:/:.:
> | FEED THE TROLLS | :=.' - - '.=:
> | | '=(\ 9 9 /)='
> | Thank you, | ( (_) )
> | Management | /`-vvv-'\
> +-------------------+ / \
> | | @@@ / /|,,,,,|\ \
> | | @@@ /_// /^\ \\_\
> @x@@x@ | | |/ WW( ( ) )WW
> \||||/ | | \| __\,,\ /,,/__
> \||/ | | | jgs (______Y______)
> /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\//\/\\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
> ==============================================================
He's not a troll - he's the World's Greatest Systems Programmer ;-)
Reply by CBFalconer●February 5, 20072007-02-05
Tom Lucas wrote:
> "werty" <werty@swissinfo.org> wrote in message
>
... snip ...
>>
>> I will give a free Op Sys for ARM , it has not text ,
>> it boots in 0.1 second and has softkeys to program
>> it in seconds . you can create new code frags in
>> 3 seconds , test them in 5 seconds .
>
> If you spent more time coding and less time telling us what the
> code will do then you'll get it finished a lot sooner. Perhaps
> you should switch to decaff and it might help your concentration?
--
+-------------------+ .:\:\:/:/:.
| PLEASE DO NOT F :.:\:\:/:/:.:
| FEED THE TROLLS | :=.' - - '.=:
| | '=(\ 9 9 /)='
| Thank you, | ( (_) )
| Management | /`-vvv-'\
+-------------------+ / \
| | @@@ / /|,,,,,|\ \
| | @@@ /_// /^\ \\_\
@x@@x@ | | |/ WW( ( ) )WW
\||||/ | | \| __\,,\ /,,/__
\||/ | | | jgs (______Y______)
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\//\/\\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
==============================================================
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to work around, in a way that produces unintended consequences
that are worse than the original problem. Usage: "Windows ME
fixes many of the shortcomings of Windows 98 SE". - Hutchinson
Reply by Jim Stewart●February 5, 20072007-02-05
werty wrote:
> No one has made a Buffallo monitor for the ARM .
>
> you cant start an ARM , its missing to much essential
> firmware . Vendors want you to NOT know their h/w
> so they steer you into a 50 MegaByte i.D.E. ,
> to keep you distracted , and detour you away from
> learning the essence of the ARM mcu .
Then write a monitor for it in assembly
code. Then write upload and download
utilities. Then write your operating
system. I shouldn't have to be telling
you this because you already made it clear
that you're a better and smarter programmer
than me.
There, I fed the troll. Sorry.
Reply by ●February 5, 20072007-02-05
> No one has made a Buffallo monitor for the ARM .
That's because buffalos don't need monitoring.
And I don't follow the rest of your gibberish either.
> I will give a free Op Sys for ARM , it has not text ,
> it boots in 0.1 second and has softkeys to program
> it in seconds .
Ok, cowboy. Pay up. Exactly WHEN will you give this free Op Sys?
It's easy to *say* you'll do something. But to never *do* it just
makes you a kook.
JJS
Reply by Tom Lucas●February 5, 20072007-02-05
"werty" <werty@swissinfo.org> wrote in message
news:1170695262.371071.130660@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
>
> No one has made a Buffallo monitor for the ARM .
>
> you cant start an ARM , its missing to much essential
> firmware . Vendors want you to NOT know their h/w
> so they steer you into a 50 MegaByte i.D.E. ,
> to keep you distracted , and detour you away from
> learning the essence of the ARM mcu .
>
> You must use a helper host PC , which burrys too many bugs,
> because you dont have hands on with h/w , you are running
> thru a host .
>
> Thats why Forth is stil argued at COMP.LANG.FORTH.
> because the people in a hurry to develope h/w , know there
> is only one fast way . and it is NOT software !!
> to operate the h/w imediately and with some s/w that does
> not distract you away from that h/w .
>
> I will give a free Op Sys for ARM , it has not text ,
> it boots in 0.1 second and has softkeys to program
> it in seconds . you can create new code frags in
> 3 seconds , test them in 5 seconds .
If you spent more time coding and less time telling us what the code
will do then you'll get it finished a lot sooner. Perhaps you should
switch to decaff and it might help your concentration?
Reply by werty●February 5, 20072007-02-05
No one has made a Buffallo monitor for the ARM .
you cant start an ARM , its missing to much essential
firmware . Vendors want you to NOT know their h/w
so they steer you into a 50 MegaByte i.D.E. ,
to keep you distracted , and detour you away from
learning the essence of the ARM mcu .
You must use a helper host PC , which burrys too many bugs,
because you dont have hands on with h/w , you are running
thru a host .
Thats why Forth is stil argued at COMP.LANG.FORTH.
because the people in a hurry to develope h/w , know there
is only one fast way . and it is NOT software !!
to operate the h/w imediately and with some s/w that does
not distract you away from that h/w .
I will give a free Op Sys for ARM , it has not text ,
it boots in 0.1 second and has softkeys to program
it in seconds . you can create new code frags in
3 seconds , test them in 5 seconds .