>I would keep at least one machine with Win98 SE around - there are >MANY programs used for Roboics projects that won't run on NT based >systems such as Win XP, Win 2000, NT 4.0, etc. I have one machine >just for this purpose and I am thinking about resurrecting a DOS >machine. I have an old Pentium laying around that just might work. I have my 40g HD partitioned and the OS selected via a boot manager. Each partition is under 10g. An additional 80g drive (as D:) is used for backup. Fresh images of each of the main drive partitions are kept here for emergency along with an incremental backup. These images are also kept externally on CDs. Applications, compilers etc., are actually installed to the D: drive to reduce storage and backup requirements. Works well for me.

Until I decide what to do with Windows and MPLAB I'm using the free CC5X C compiler: <http://www.bknd.com/cc5x/download.shtml> Mike

I compared the two programs. 5.7 uses a .DLL, .INC, and .LKR file for each device. Version 6.6 uses a .INC and .DEV file for each device. Oddly enough 5.7 does have 16F88.LKR, but not the other two. The .INC will work of course, but without the .DLL, bummer :( Chad --- In , "upand_at_them" <upand_at_them@y...> wrote: > Got it, thanks. > > But it still doesn't show up in the list of processors when creating > a project. Does this matter? > > Mike > > --- In , "rtstofer" <rstofer@p...> wrote: > > I put a copy in the Files section PIC16F88.INC - let me know when > > you have it so I can dump it.

Ebay has both the Win98 SE Full Version ($70) and the Update Version ($15). --- In , "upand_at_them" <upand_at_them@y...> wrote: > > Windows SE updates are free > > Uhh, with Microsoft nothing is free. > > > MANY programs used for Roboics projects that won't run on NT > > based systems such as Win XP, Win 2000, NT 4.0, etc. > > That's a shame, too. I really like NT. I had it on an old laptop > and it worked great. Tried Win2K, but it took too much memory and > was much slower. NT was the fastest of the bunch that I've tried (I > only have old machines), but I needed Win98 or higher to run AGWPE > sound card packet. > > Thanks, > Mike

> Windows SE updates are free (or they were) Well not exactly. If you have a Compaq, specifically in my case, they are forbidden to give/sell you an upgrade disc per agreement with MS, since 98 is no longer a supported system. And the generic Windows 98SE disc will not work, or at least I have not be able to get it to work. :( Chad ===== My software has no bugs, only undocumented features. __________________________________

> Windows SE updates are free Uhh, with Microsoft nothing is free. > MANY programs used for Roboics projects that won't run on NT > based systems such as Win XP, Win 2000, NT 4.0, etc. That's a shame, too. I really like NT. I had it on an old laptop and it worked great. Tried Win2K, but it took too much memory and was much slower. NT was the fastest of the bunch that I've tried (I only have old machines), but I needed Win98 or higher to run AGWPE sound card packet. Thanks, Mike

I don't know. I suspect it may be a problem when you try to create a 'project'. It will probably work from the command line just fine. You did put the file with the rest of the 'includes', right? Windows SE updates are free (or they were) but the free version does not include one particular networking feature; Internet Connection Sharing. Check out the Microsoft site. I would download the latest MPLAB and install it in a different directory. I would keep at least one machine with Win98 SE around - there are MANY programs used for Roboics projects that won't run on NT based systems such as Win XP, Win 2000, NT 4.0, etc. I have one machine just for this purpose and I am thinking about resurrecting a DOS machine. I have an old Pentium laying around that just might work. --- In , "upand_at_them" <upand_at_them@y...> wrote: > Got it, thanks. > > But it still doesn't show up in the list of processors when creating > a project. Does this matter? > > Mike > > --- In , "rtstofer" <rstofer@p...> wrote: > > I put a copy in the Files section PIC16F88.INC - let me know when > > you have it so I can dump it.

Got it, thanks. But it still doesn't show up in the list of processors when creating a project. Does this matter? Mike --- In , "rtstofer" <rstofer@p...> wrote: > I put a copy in the Files section PIC16F88.INC - let me know when > you have it so I can dump it.

I put a copy in the Files section PIC16F88.INC - let me know when you have it so I can dump it. --- In , "upand_at_them" <upand_at_them@y...> wrote: > Well, the newest version says Win98SE or higher and I'm running > Win98. I also don't meet the RAM requirement. > > Isn't there a definition for the 16F88 I can add somewhere? > > Mike > > --- In , "rtstofer" <rstofer@p...> wrote: > > > > The device is defined in version 6.40 - you might want to get a > > newer version of MPLAB. > > > > --- In , "upand_at_them" > <upand_at_them@y...> > > wrote: > > > Dang, another hurdle. I'm using MPLAB 5.70, but there's no > option > > > for the PIC16F88 in the processor select box. > > > > > > Mike

Well, the newest version says Win98SE or higher and I'm running Win98. I also don't meet the RAM requirement. Isn't there a definition for the 16F88 I can add somewhere? Mike --- In , "rtstofer" <rstofer@p...> wrote: > > The device is defined in version 6.40 - you might want to get a > newer version of MPLAB. > > --- In , "upand_at_them" <upand_at_them@y...> > wrote: > > Dang, another hurdle. I'm using MPLAB 5.70, but there's no option > > for the PIC16F88 in the processor select box. > > > > Mike