Reply by Stef April 18, 20072007-04-18
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ssubbarayan <ssubba@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 2)Under what circumstance will the EEPROM allow to move to write into > the next page from the current one its writing into? > 3)My chip datasheet says that when we are doing page writes,(we set > page size as 64 bytes),once the data reaches page boundary,roll over > occurs and data gets overwritten from start of same page again.This > makes me wonder ,when will my data move to next page?
You can only write to a single page in a single access. To write to another page, stop the write access, wait for the EEPROM to finish the write operation and than start a write to another page. So if you want to write 128 bytes to the start of an EEPROM with a 64 byte pagesize, you do it like this: - Write byte 0 - 63 - Wait for EEPROM to complete it's internal write operation - Write byte 64 - 127 - Wait... -- Stef (remove caps, dashes and .invalid from e-mail address to reply by mail)
Reply by ssubbarayan April 18, 20072007-04-18
Hi all,
This is again a follow up on EEPROM discussion I had previously a few
days back.Regarding I2C based EEPROM I recently came across an
application note from Microchip company (Document name AN709).
The note says :
"FORCING INTERNAL RESET VIA SOFTWARE

In all designs it is recommended that a software reset sequence be
sent to the EEPROM as part of the microcontrollers power up sequence.
This sequence guarantees that the EEPROM is in a correct and known
state.
Assuming that the EEPROM has powered up into an incorrect state (or
that a reset occurred at the microcontroller during communication),
the following sequence (which is further explained below) should be
sent in order to guarantee that the serial EEPROM device is properly
reset:
=B7 START Bit
=B7 Clock in nine bits of '1'
=B7 START Bit
=B7 STOP Bit
The first START bit will cause the device to reset from a state in
which it is expecting to receive data from the microcontroller. In
this mode the device is monitoring the data bus in receive mode and
can detect the START bit which forces an internal reset. The nine
bits
of '1' are used to force a reset of those devices that could not be
reset by the previous START bit. This occurs only if the device is in
a mode where it is either driving an acknowledge on the bus (low), or
is in
an output mode and is driving a data bit of '0' out on the bus. In
both of these cases the previous START bit (defined as SDA going low
while SCL is high) could not be generated due to the device holding
the bus low. By sending nine bits of '1' it is guaranteed that the
device will see a NACK (microcontroller does not drive the bus low to
acknowledge data sent by EEPROM) which also
forces an internal reset.
The second START bit is sent to guard against the rare possibility of
an erroneous write that could occur if the microcontroller was reset
while sending a write command to the EEPROM, and, the EEPROM was
driving an ACK on the bus when the first START bit was sent. In
this special case if this second START bit was not sent, and instead
the STOP bit was sent, the device could initiate a write cycle. This
potential for an erroneous write occurs only in the event of the
microcontroller being reset while sending a write command to the
EEPROM. The final STOP bit terminates bus activity and puts the
EEPROM
in standby mode.
This sequence does not effect any other I2C devices which may be on
the bus as they will simply disregard it as an invalid command".
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I believe this should be done in our software as a protection
mechanism.The above APPNOTE  says its applicable to all I2C EEPROM
chips.
My queries are:


1)If I have understood correctly,I need to send a startbit and a
sequence of 9 bits to my EEPROM device.Here comes the problem:
How will I be able to send 9 bits when my NVRAM chip(mb24256) can
allow to write only 8 bits per time?
I use 5516 ST chip and this chip acts as I2C master and the above
mentioned (mb24256) EEPROM chip acts as a slave device.

2)Under what circumstance will the EEPROM allow to move to write into
the next page from the current one its writing into?
3)My chip datasheet says that when we are doing page writes,(we set
page size as 64 bytes),once the data reaches page boundary,roll over
occurs and data gets overwritten from start of same page again.This
makes me wonder ,when will my data move to next page?



Have any of you come across such a situation?How to overcome this
problem?Is it feasible for my chip?


Sorry for a long description,but believe this is clear to all to
understand the problem.
Advanced thanks for all your replys and looking farward for the same,


Regards,
s=2Esubbarayan