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timestamped Fri, 22 Jun 2007 11:11:28 -0700, Eric
<englere_geo@yahoo.com> posted:
     "[..]
     
     I keep forgetting that CrossWorks works on linux. That's the only
     commercial toolset that works on linux, I believe?"

No, some of Aonix's compilers are also hosted on GNU/Linux.

On Jun 24, 1:09 pm, Grant Edwards <gra...@visi.com> wrote:

> Really?  Their web shows pricing on compilers for PIC, 8051, ARM,
> MSP430, 6811, XA, H8, Z80, 68K, ARClite microRISC, 6805,
> HOLTEK.  I don't see anything for x86...

Look on the demos download page.

On 2007-06-24, larwe <zwsdotcom@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 24, 9:40 am, Mark L Pappin <m...@acm.org> wrote:
>
>> HI-TECH Software's recent compilers (not GCC-based) ship for Linux,
>> MacOSX, and Windows.
>
> Dammit, you got me all excited. Then I went to htsoft and saw that all
> they actually offer is PIC and x86. Grrrr.

Really?  Their web shows pricing on compilers for PIC, 8051, ARM,
MSP430, 6811, XA, H8, Z80, 68K, ARClite microRISC, 6805,
HOLTEK.  I don't see anything for x86...


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Grant Edwards wrote:

> On 2007-06-24, Mark L Pappin <mlp@acm.org> wrote:
> > larwe <zwsdotcom@gmail.com> writes:
> >> On Jun 22, 2:11 pm, Eric <englere_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >>> I keep forgetting that CrossWorks works on linux. That's the only
> >>> commercial toolset that works on linux, I believe?
> >
> >> More or less. I'm not specifically aware of any other cross-
> >> development toolchain that runs on Linux that is not gcc-based.
> >
> > HI-TECH Software's recent compilers (not GCC-based) ship for Linux,
> > MacOSX, and Windows.
>
> I have to give them credit for charging the same price for
> Linux and for Windows -- unlike other vendors (e.g. Gimple) who
> charge 4X for the Linux/Unix version.

It is not so much of an issue anymore. If tool developers follow
a reasonable set of design rules most tool applications will
run on Windows, MacOS, HPUX, Spark and Linux under
many different windows emulators with essentially no
performance hit. When we (Byte Craft) realized that just
by being disciplined with the design rules we used we could
support many different platforms with few penalties and more
important a reasonable expectation that the tools would
perform in the same manner on each of them. There are some
additional design considerations that multiplatform support
needs to consider with this approach the best known is line
termination support differences between windows and
unix based platforms.

Multiplatform support is also one of several reasons that
all of our code generation tools can be called from a command
line and combined to other tools in a tool set.

This has been our approach and of course it means that
pricing for all platforms is the same as a result.

Regards

Walter Banks
--
Byte Craft Limited
Tel. (519) 888-6911
 http://www.bytecraft.com
 email walter@bytecraft.com

On Jun 24, 9:40 am, Mark L Pappin <m...@acm.org> wrote:

> HI-TECH Software's recent compilers (not GCC-based) ship for Linux,
> MacOSX, and Windows.

Dammit, you got me all excited. Then I went to htsoft and saw that all
they actually offer is PIC and x86. Grrrr.

On 2007-06-24, Mark L Pappin <mlp@acm.org> wrote:
> larwe <zwsdotcom@gmail.com> writes:
>> On Jun 22, 2:11 pm, Eric <englere_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>> I keep forgetting that CrossWorks works on linux. That's the only
>>> commercial toolset that works on linux, I believe?
>
>> More or less. I'm not specifically aware of any other cross-
>> development toolchain that runs on Linux that is not gcc-based.
>
> HI-TECH Software's recent compilers (not GCC-based) ship for Linux,
> MacOSX, and Windows.

I have to give them credit for charging the same price for
Linux and for Windows -- unlike other vendors (e.g. Gimple) who
charge 4X for the Linux/Unix version.

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larwe <zwsdotcom@gmail.com> writes:
> On Jun 22, 2:11 pm, Eric <englere_...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>> I keep forgetting that CrossWorks works on linux. That's the only
>> commercial toolset that works on linux, I believe?

> More or less. I'm not specifically aware of any other cross-
> development toolchain that runs on Linux that is not gcc-based.

HI-TECH Software's recent compilers (not GCC-based) ship for Linux,
MacOSX, and Windows.

mlp

Mike Silva <snarflemike@yahoo.com> wrote:
> What I'd like to find out is what folks are using to develop on
> Linux.  In particular, what editors or IDEs are you using?  

bash, gcc, vi, make, gdb.

> else would you tell somebody looking to start developing native and
> cross-platform embedded software on Linux?  Many thanks for any
> comments.

bash, gcc cross compiler, vi, make, gdb for your target..

pete
-- 
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On 2007-06-22, larwe <zwsdotcom@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 22, 2:11 pm, Eric <englere_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> I keep forgetting that CrossWorks works on linux. That's the only
>> commercial toolset that works on linux, I believe?
>
> More or less. I'm not specifically aware of any other cross-
> development toolchain that runs on Linux that is not gcc-based.

Just to clarify one point, CrossWorks for ARM is gcc based.
IIRC, Crossworks for other architectures use Rowley compilers.

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