Reply by Ali October 25, 20072007-10-25
On Oct 23, 9:26 pm, Ali <abdulra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 23, 5:26 pm, Ali <abdulra...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Oct 23, 4:53 pm, John Devereux <jdREM...@THISdevereux.me.uk> wrote: > > > > Ali <abdulra...@gmail.com> writes: > > > > On Oct 22, 5:23 pm, Ali <abdulra...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> Hello All, > > > > >> I'll have few holidays in coming month so was thinking to > > > >> have something interesting to play around. I have done little work > > > >> with ARMx with GNU tool chain but honestly i should say that there > > > >> are still things that make me feel unfomfortable. I remember reading > > > >> this [http://www.embedded.com/design/opensource/200000632?_requestid=46173 > > > >> ] 7 part article while ago and it looks a good basic starting point to > > > >> me. > > > > >> I would love to hear if anyone out there has read/followed this > > > >> tutorial? Or any other such tutorial would be appreciated. > > > > >> One thing more, I have tried digikey and mouser and its easy to get > > > >> the development board. But there is no information what CPU they would > > > >> be shipping. any hints to make sure that I get AT91SAM7S64 (64KB of > > > >> on-chip flash ROM and 16KB of static RAM)? > > > > >> regards, > > > >> ali > > > > > Folks thanks for input. And I hope x256 will be ok. > > > > But, any thoughts for tutorial ? I can't see even a single comment > > > > there (Embedded.com) although It was uploaded on 06/26/07. > > > > I read all of it and thought it was very good. Especially useful if > > > you are thinking about experimenting with c++ - I have not seen this > > > covered before. > > > > The actual code is labelled "all rights reserved". I am not sure what > > > that is supposed to mean in practice but I guess you can't use it > > > as-is for the basis of your own projects. But the insight gained > > > should still be worthwhile. > > > > -- > > > > John Devereux > > > Yes John, I must agree with you. It is indeed kinda unique and article > > concentrates on over all system rather just a single thing. I can see > > people recommending another tutorial which is using AMR7 from NXP , > > but IMHO that tutorial is merely for configuring the toolchain and > > thats it. It does not talk about such details that are covered in Miro > > Samek's article. > > > Maybe no one has tried that and thats why there are no comments. Or > > maybe no worth to comment;-) > > > ali > > What is the difference between AT91SAM7S-EK IAR and AT91SAM7S-EK RSV? > > thanks, > ali
Ok, IAR means board shipped with IDE from IAR company and J-LINK ICE interface with its A/B type USB cable. But no Idea what comes with RSV version! ali
Reply by Ali October 23, 20072007-10-23
On Oct 23, 5:26 pm, Ali <abdulra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 23, 4:53 pm, John Devereux <jdREM...@THISdevereux.me.uk> wrote: > > > > > Ali <abdulra...@gmail.com> writes: > > > On Oct 22, 5:23 pm, Ali <abdulra...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> Hello All, > > > >> I'll have few holidays in coming month so was thinking to > > >> have something interesting to play around. I have done little work > > >> with ARMx with GNU tool chain but honestly i should say that there > > >> are still things that make me feel unfomfortable. I remember reading > > >> this [http://www.embedded.com/design/opensource/200000632?_requestid=46173 > > >> ] 7 part article while ago and it looks a good basic starting point to > > >> me. > > > >> I would love to hear if anyone out there has read/followed this > > >> tutorial? Or any other such tutorial would be appreciated. > > > >> One thing more, I have tried digikey and mouser and its easy to get > > >> the development board. But there is no information what CPU they would > > >> be shipping. any hints to make sure that I get AT91SAM7S64 (64KB of > > >> on-chip flash ROM and 16KB of static RAM)? > > > >> regards, > > >> ali > > > > Folks thanks for input. And I hope x256 will be ok. > > > But, any thoughts for tutorial ? I can't see even a single comment > > > there (Embedded.com) although It was uploaded on 06/26/07. > > > I read all of it and thought it was very good. Especially useful if > > you are thinking about experimenting with c++ - I have not seen this > > covered before. > > > The actual code is labelled "all rights reserved". I am not sure what > > that is supposed to mean in practice but I guess you can't use it > > as-is for the basis of your own projects. But the insight gained > > should still be worthwhile. > > > -- > > > John Devereux > > Yes John, I must agree with you. It is indeed kinda unique and article > concentrates on over all system rather just a single thing. I can see > people recommending another tutorial which is using AMR7 from NXP , > but IMHO that tutorial is merely for configuring the toolchain and > thats it. It does not talk about such details that are covered in Miro > Samek's article. > > Maybe no one has tried that and thats why there are no comments. Or > maybe no worth to comment;-) > > ali
What is the difference between AT91SAM7S-EK IAR and AT91SAM7S-EK RSV? thanks, ali
Reply by Ali October 23, 20072007-10-23
On Oct 23, 4:53 pm, John Devereux <jdREM...@THISdevereux.me.uk> wrote:
> Ali <abdulra...@gmail.com> writes: > > On Oct 22, 5:23 pm, Ali <abdulra...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hello All, > > >> I'll have few holidays in coming month so was thinking to > >> have something interesting to play around. I have done little work > >> with ARMx with GNU tool chain but honestly i should say that there > >> are still things that make me feel unfomfortable. I remember reading > >> this [http://www.embedded.com/design/opensource/200000632?_requestid=46173 > >> ] 7 part article while ago and it looks a good basic starting point to > >> me. > > >> I would love to hear if anyone out there has read/followed this > >> tutorial? Or any other such tutorial would be appreciated. > > >> One thing more, I have tried digikey and mouser and its easy to get > >> the development board. But there is no information what CPU they would > >> be shipping. any hints to make sure that I get AT91SAM7S64 (64KB of > >> on-chip flash ROM and 16KB of static RAM)? > > >> regards, > >> ali > > > Folks thanks for input. And I hope x256 will be ok. > > But, any thoughts for tutorial ? I can't see even a single comment > > there (Embedded.com) although It was uploaded on 06/26/07. > > I read all of it and thought it was very good. Especially useful if > you are thinking about experimenting with c++ - I have not seen this > covered before. > > The actual code is labelled "all rights reserved". I am not sure what > that is supposed to mean in practice but I guess you can't use it > as-is for the basis of your own projects. But the insight gained > should still be worthwhile. > > -- > > John Devereux
Yes John, I must agree with you. It is indeed kinda unique and article concentrates on over all system rather just a single thing. I can see people recommending another tutorial which is using AMR7 from NXP , but IMHO that tutorial is merely for configuring the toolchain and thats it. It does not talk about such details that are covered in Miro Samek's article. Maybe no one has tried that and thats why there are no comments. Or maybe no worth to comment;-) ali
Reply by FreeRTOS.org October 23, 20072007-10-23
> > There's a fairly good tutorial by a fellow named James Lynch. It's called > "ARM Cross Development with Eclipse". It shows how to put together a > working toolchain for cross compiling. >
The FreeRTOS.org site also has some information on using Eclipse/GCC/ARM: http://www.freertos.org/portlpc2368_Eclipse.html http://www.freertos.org/portLM3Sxxxx_Eclipse.html [just working on one for the SAM7 too] Using Eclipse with the FreeRTOS.org demos: http://www.freertos.org/Eclipse.html http://www.freertos.org/Eclipse_CDT.html Note that these direct links won't show you the menu frame. To see the menu frame go directly to the homepage. Regards, Richard. + http://www.FreeRTOS.org 13 official architecture ports, 1000 downloads per week. + http://www.SafeRTOS.com Certified by T&#4294967295;V as meeting the requirements for safety related systems.
Reply by John Devereux October 23, 20072007-10-23
Ali <abdulrazaq@gmail.com> writes:

> On Oct 22, 5:23 pm, Ali <abdulra...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Hello All, >> >> I'll have few holidays in coming month so was thinking to >> have something interesting to play around. I have done little work >> with ARMx with GNU tool chain but honestly i should say that there >> are still things that make me feel unfomfortable. I remember reading >> this [http://www.embedded.com/design/opensource/200000632?_requestid=46173 >> ] 7 part article while ago and it looks a good basic starting point to >> me. >> >> I would love to hear if anyone out there has read/followed this >> tutorial? Or any other such tutorial would be appreciated. >> >> One thing more, I have tried digikey and mouser and its easy to get >> the development board. But there is no information what CPU they would >> be shipping. any hints to make sure that I get AT91SAM7S64 (64KB of >> on-chip flash ROM and 16KB of static RAM)? >> >> regards, >> ali > > Folks thanks for input. And I hope x256 will be ok. > But, any thoughts for tutorial ? I can't see even a single comment > there (Embedded.com) although It was uploaded on 06/26/07.
I read all of it and thought it was very good. Especially useful if you are thinking about experimenting with c++ - I have not seen this covered before. The actual code is labelled "all rights reserved". I am not sure what that is supposed to mean in practice but I guess you can't use it as-is for the basis of your own projects. But the insight gained should still be worthwhile. -- John Devereux
Reply by Ali October 23, 20072007-10-23
On Oct 23, 9:49 am, "Anthony Fremont" <nob...@noplace.net> wrote:
> Ali wrote: > > Folks thanks for input. And I hope x256 will be ok. > > But, any thoughts for tutorial ? I can't see even a single comment > > there (Embedded.com) although It was uploaded on 06/26/07. > > When is the next article supposed to come out? I don't want to rain on your > parade, but it has been four months since the first article and I couldn't > find any sign of the second one. > > I just got started in the ARM7 world myself. I bought an Olimex board fromwww.sparkfun.com(a way cool place), a JTAG module, and dove in. I was > going to get a SAM7, but switched to the NXP at the last minute because the > Atmel board was out of stock. After digging thru both manufacturers' > documentation, I think I like the NXP a bit better anyway. > > There's a fairly good tutorial by a fellow named James Lynch. It's called > "ARM Cross Development with Eclipse". It shows how to put together a > working toolchain for cross compiling.
Search embedded.com for 'Building Bare-Metal ARM Systems with GNU' you will see '10' part tutorial there. Yeah , NXP is fine but just wan tto stick to atmel;-) http://www.embedded.com/TechSearch/Search.jhtml;jsessionid=JOSL2HGUF4MQOQSNDLPCKH0CJUNN2JVN?sortSpec=score+desc&site_id=Embedded.com&Site+ID=Embedded.com&c1=All&queryText=Building+Bare-Metal+ARM+Systems+with+GNU&Search.x=7&Search.y=10 ali
Reply by Anthony Fremont October 22, 20072007-10-22
Ali wrote:
> Folks thanks for input. And I hope x256 will be ok. > But, any thoughts for tutorial ? I can't see even a single comment > there (Embedded.com) although It was uploaded on 06/26/07.
When is the next article supposed to come out? I don't want to rain on your parade, but it has been four months since the first article and I couldn't find any sign of the second one. I just got started in the ARM7 world myself. I bought an Olimex board from www.sparkfun.com (a way cool place), a JTAG module, and dove in. I was going to get a SAM7, but switched to the NXP at the last minute because the Atmel board was out of stock. After digging thru both manufacturers' documentation, I think I like the NXP a bit better anyway. There's a fairly good tutorial by a fellow named James Lynch. It's called "ARM Cross Development with Eclipse". It shows how to put together a working toolchain for cross compiling.
Reply by Ali October 22, 20072007-10-22
On Oct 22, 5:23 pm, Ali <abdulra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello All, > > I'll have few holidays in coming month so was thinking to > have something interesting to play around. I have done little work > with ARMx with GNU tool chain but honestly i should say that there > are still things that make me feel unfomfortable. I remember reading > this [http://www.embedded.com/design/opensource/200000632?_requestid=46173 > ] 7 part article while ago and it looks a good basic starting point to > me. > > I would love to hear if anyone out there has read/followed this > tutorial? Or any other such tutorial would be appreciated. > > One thing more, I have tried digikey and mouser and its easy to get > the development board. But there is no information what CPU they would > be shipping. any hints to make sure that I get AT91SAM7S64 (64KB of > on-chip flash ROM and 16KB of static RAM)? > > regards, > ali
Folks thanks for input. And I hope x256 will be ok. But, any thoughts for tutorial ? I can't see even a single comment there (Embedded.com) although It was uploaded on 06/26/07. regards, ali
Reply by Ali October 22, 20072007-10-22
On Oct 23, 4:46 am, Stef <stef...@yahooI-N-V-A-L-I-D.com.invalid>
wrote:
> In comp.arch.embedded, > > Sergey Kubushin <k...@koi8.net> wrote: > > And if you really want that SAM7S64 part, you can replace what's on the EVB. > > It has dual footprint for the MCU. > > The LQFP48 is only required for the '32 all others are LQFP64. You need to > remove the existing CPU anyway, as the LQFP48 is under the LQFP64. > > But if you really can only use the '64 (I really can't understand why > though), buying that separately and replacing it is a good option. > > -- > Stef (remove caps, dashes and .invalid from e-mail address to reply by mail)
Thanks for input.
> But if you really can only use the '64 (I really can't understand why though),
I was just trying to stick to tutorial specifications. Anyway, I'll give it a try. http://www.embedded.com/design/opensource/200000632?_requestid=46173 thanks, ali
Reply by Stef October 22, 20072007-10-22
In comp.arch.embedded,
Sergey Kubushin <ksi@koi8.net> wrote:

> And if you really want that SAM7S64 part, you can replace what's on the EVB. > It has dual footprint for the MCU.
The LQFP48 is only required for the '32 all others are LQFP64. You need to remove the existing CPU anyway, as the LQFP48 is under the LQFP64. But if you really can only use the '64 (I really can't understand why though), buying that separately and replacing it is a good option. -- Stef (remove caps, dashes and .invalid from e-mail address to reply by mail)