Reply by linnix January 30, 20082008-01-30
On Jan 29, 7:17 pm, Mark...@Lycos.com wrote:
> Linnix, > > Could you please send me your email address so I can give you the > design specification offline? > > MarkSix
Emailed to MarkSix at yourdomain There is also a contact me form at the bottom of http://linnix.com/proto
Reply by John Adair January 30, 20082008-01-30
Mark

If send anything to boardsales at our route address of
enterpoint.co.uk and mark it for my attention it will be routed to me.
The amount of spam we get on any published email address precludes me
publishing a direct address in a public forum.

Regards
John Adair

On 30 Jan, 03:17, Mark...@Lycos.com wrote:
> John, > > Could you please send me your email address so I can give you the > design specification offline? > > MarkSix
Reply by January 29, 20082008-01-29
Linnix,

Could you please send me your email address so I can give you the
design specification offline?

MarkSix


Reply by January 29, 20082008-01-29
John,

Could you please send me your email address so I can give you the
design specification offline?

MarkSix
Reply by January 29, 20082008-01-29
Linnix,
Linnix,

The boards sound interesting and I may be able to take all of them off
your hands if this works out. Maybe I should write a design
specification and send it to you offline so you can advise how much
more work needs to be done to the boards to make them suitable for my
needs.

MarkSix


On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 13:20:10 -0800 (PST), linnix
<me@linnix.info-for.us> wrote:

>On Jan 28, 2:20 am, Mark...@Lycos.com wrote: >> These boards might be suitable if the uC could continually cycle >> through the 8 data inputs and send them to the SBC to update the >> display in realtime. Like the speedo gauge in an auto. > >It's just a matter of programming. One A2D input is monitoring the >power supply voltage. Two of he A2D inputs are routed to an analog >multiplexer selected by two port pins (2 out of 8). The inputs >(buffered and protected by the multiplexer) are routed to a 10 pins >header (8 + power & ground). Of course, you can disable Jtag (six >pins header) and get 4 more analog inputs. > >During testings, we cycle through eight channels and pump it out to >RS232 every few seconds. The uC speeds up (receiving +) or slows down >(receiving -) according to RS232 commands from the host. > >The LCD signals (20x4) are routed to a 30 pins extra wide dip header. > >> >> But like Michael asked - >> >> Please tell us more; how much? > >Probably $10 to $15 ea, depends on how much more work need to be done. > >> Loaded with firmware and a blurb on how to use? > >Possible. > >>
Reply by January 29, 20082008-01-29

John,

Maybe I should write a design specification and send it to you offline
for your consideration?

MarkSix

On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 11:33:19 -0800 (PST), John Adair
<g1@enterpoint.co.uk> wrote:

>Mark > >snip > > without a lot more >background on your aims and requirements and your budget for that >matter it is difficult to give a 100% answer as to what is best. > >John Adair >Enterpoint Ltd. >
Reply by linnix January 28, 20082008-01-28
On Jan 28, 2:20 am, Mark...@Lycos.com wrote:
> These boards might be suitable if the uC could continually cycle > through the 8 data inputs and send them to the SBC to update the > display in realtime. Like the speedo gauge in an auto.
It's just a matter of programming. One A2D input is monitoring the power supply voltage. Two of he A2D inputs are routed to an analog multiplexer selected by two port pins (2 out of 8). The inputs (buffered and protected by the multiplexer) are routed to a 10 pins header (8 + power & ground). Of course, you can disable Jtag (six pins header) and get 4 more analog inputs. During testings, we cycle through eight channels and pump it out to RS232 every few seconds. The uC speeds up (receiving +) or slows down (receiving -) according to RS232 commands from the host. The LCD signals (20x4) are routed to a 30 pins extra wide dip header.
> > But like Michael asked - > > Please tell us more; how much?
Probably $10 to $15 ea, depends on how much more work need to be done.
> Loaded with firmware and a blurb on how to use?
Possible.
>
Reply by John Adair January 28, 20082008-01-28
Mark

That opens up your choices a lot. Assuming you have a reasonable
current capability you can have effectively a PC on board if that is
what you need. As mentioned elsewhere PC104/PC104+ is a good format
for what you are doing. It's generally very robust. We have had some
of Hollybush1 (PC104+/PCI104) products flying in real full sized
helicopters and mechanically the customer on that had few problems as
far I know. You do have to be careful of the vibration environment
whether in a full sized aircraft or model size as has been done with
our Darnaw1 product as mentioned in the previous post.

Being basied the sort of thing I would suggest with our products would
be to use a Hollybush1, or even better a sister product that we are
just about to launch, as processor element. I would either then buy
PC104/PC104+ boards to fill the gaps in the requirements and if really
necessary do a simple mezzanine board to fit on our Hollybush1. There
are lots of other possibilities I could offer but without a lot more
background on your aims and requirements and your budget for that
matter it is difficult to give a 100% answer as to what is best.

John Adair
Enterpoint Ltd.

On 27 Jan, 15:38, Mark...@Lycos.com wrote:
> John > > Thanks for the reply. > > The type of airplane I am thinking of weighs between 700-1200 pounds > gross, so a couple of pounds of instrument isn't that critical. The > device will have on-board display (maybe 5 inch TFT LCD) and run off > the aircraft's 12 volt DC electrical system. The data logging > requirement will be minimal, so removable storage media is an optional > extra. > > Any further thoughts? > > MarkSix. > > On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 02:17:24 -0800 (PST), John Adair > > > > <g...@enterpoint.co.uk> wrote: > >Mark > > >There are plenty of companies like ourselves that could build you up > >something albeit at a cost. In an ultra-light aircraft your power > >supply/comsumption and even the mass of the boards may cause you a > >weight problem so be careful of whatever solution you go for. Some of > >our products have been doing a different processing and logging type > >as part of a customer design on model helicopters - > >http://xenon.stanford.edu/~mquigley/papers/gnss2007_portable_baseband... > >where weight probably isn't so critical. > > >It would also be worth having a detachable display for flight assuming > >you don't need it then to keep the mass down. > > >Do you need to store data or are you planning to transmit that to a > >ground station as it is collected? > > >John Adair > >Enterpoint Ltd. > > >On 27 Jan, 07:24, Mark...@Lycos.com wrote: > >> I want to build a device to capture engine performance (eg rpm, oil > >> pressure, various temperatures) and flight data (eg altitude, > >> airspeed, vertical speed) for use in an ultralight airplane and to > >> display the processed data in alphanumeric and graphical form (dials, > >> and bar graphs) on a color LCD. > > >> Does anyone have suggestions for a suitable OTS SBC with 8-channel > >> analog DAQ which can output to a 320x240 TFT LCD? Alternatively, are > >> there are schematics available to DIY using a microcontroller? > > >> I have NO electronic or programming skills, so it has to be simple to > >> put together myself or pay someone to do it for me. > > >> MarkSix- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
Reply by January 28, 20082008-01-28
These boards might be suitable if the uC could continually cycle
through the 8 data inputs and send them to the SBC to update the
display in realtime. Like the speedo gauge in an auto.

But like Michael asked -

Please tell us more; how much? Loaded with firmware and a blurb on how
to use?

MarkSix


On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 09:25:25 -0800 (PST), linnix
<me@linnix.info-for.us> wrote:

>On Jan 26, 11:24 pm, Mark...@Lycos.com wrote: >> I want to build a device to capture engine performance (eg rpm, oil >> pressure, various temperatures) and flight data (eg altitude, >> airspeed, vertical speed) for use in an ultralight airplane and to >> display the processed data in alphanumeric and graphical form (dials, >> and bar graphs) on a color LCD. >> >> Does anyone have suggestions for a suitable OTS SBC with 8-channel >> analog DAQ which can output to a 320x240 TFT LCD? Alternatively, are >> there are schematics available to DIY using a microcontroller? > >You need both. You need a powerful SBC for the display side and a >dedicated uC for the data side. Some time ago, we made some AVR >boards with 8 channel A2D and RS232 talking to the SBC (or PC). The >uC logs data periodically and upload to the SBC in burst. > >The customer disappears so we never follow-up on it. I still have 80 >prototype boards available, if you want some of them. > > >> >> I have NO electronic or programming skills, so it has to be simple to >> put together myself or pay someone to do it for me. >> >> MarkSix
Reply by linnix January 27, 20082008-01-27
On Jan 27, 2:38 pm, msg <msg@_cybertheque.org_> wrote:
> linnix wrote: > > <snip> > > > > > Some time ago, we made some AVR > > boards with 8 channel A2D and RS232 talking to the SBC (or PC). The > > uC logs data periodically and upload to the SBC in burst. > > > The customer disappears so we never follow-up on it. I still have 80 > > prototype boards available, if you want some of them. > > Please tell us more; how much? Loaded with firmware and a blurb on > how to use? > > Michael
Second board of: http://linnix.com/proto has: 1. Atmega649 (64K flash, 2K sram, 1K eeprom) 2. Max2232 driver 3. Analog multiplexer from 2 to 8.