Reply by Joerg April 8, 20082008-04-08
linnix wrote:
> On Apr 8, 1:45 pm, "raedarrar" <i...@0-800.tv> wrote: >>> My posting email is invalid. The best way is to send me a message >>> using the contact form athttp://linnix.com/proto >> I have tried buy there is an error ! >> it says: "Address Not Found" >> >> Please find another way to contact you. >> > > Can you email me at linnix123@yahoo.com? > Thanks.
Strange, since a few days I can't see all posts and I am using a big ISP (AT&T). It looks like people responding to themselves. For example here I could not see Raed's post except in your answer. Does anyone else have that issue? -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/
Reply by linnix April 8, 20082008-04-08
On Apr 8, 1:45 pm, "raedarrar" <i...@0-800.tv> wrote:
> >My posting email is invalid. The best way is to send me a message > >using the contact form athttp://linnix.com/proto > > I have tried buy there is an error ! > it says: "Address Not Found" > > Please find another way to contact you. >
Can you email me at linnix123@yahoo.com? Thanks.
Reply by raedarrar April 8, 20082008-04-08
>My posting email is invalid. The best way is to send me a message >using the contact form at http://linnix.com/proto
I have tried buy there is an error ! it says: "Address Not Found" Please find another way to contact you. Regards, Raed Firefox can't find the server at www.linnix.com."
Reply by linnix April 8, 20082008-04-08
On Apr 8, 8:19 am, Spehro Pefhany <speffS...@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat>
wrote:
> On Tue, 8 Apr 2008 08:06:10 -0700 (PDT), linnix > > > > <m...@linnix.info-for.us> wrote: > >On Apr 7, 7:14 pm, "raedarrar" <i...@0-800.tv> wrote: > >> Guys, i liked the idea! > > >> Linnix send me an email to i...@0-800.tv to discuss it. Do not forget to > >> put your info. contact. > > >My posting email is invalid. The best way is to send me a message > >using the contact form athttp://linnix.com/proto > > >> can not wait to for our discussion. > > >This is for a custom infra-red motion sensor. > > >We will be using micro mirrors to focus and track infra-red signals. > >The concept is nothing new, but we are building them in microns. > >There will be many micromachined mirrors controlled by electro-static > >actuators. Using 15V (out of max. 20V process) drivers, we can move > >actuators by a few microns. > > >The ASIC (assisted by an external mutual inductors) will charge pump > >and store the energy needed to move the actuators. > > >I am adding this discussion to sci.electronics.design, where some of > >the ideas have been discussed. > > Now that's cool. MEMS motion sensors. Similar, I suppose, to the TI > electrostatic (?) micro mirror imaging technology.
TI as well as many others.
> > Is this a military application?
Not yet, mainly for commerical use, where price is important.
> Best regards, > Spehro Pefhany > -- > "it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" > sp...@interlog.com Info for manufacturers:http://www.trexon.com > Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com
Reply by Spehro Pefhany April 8, 20082008-04-08
On Tue, 8 Apr 2008 08:06:10 -0700 (PDT), linnix
<me@linnix.info-for.us> wrote:

>On Apr 7, 7:14 pm, "raedarrar" <i...@0-800.tv> wrote: >> Guys, i liked the idea! >> >> Linnix send me an email to i...@0-800.tv to discuss it. Do not forget to >> put your info. contact. > >My posting email is invalid. The best way is to send me a message >using the contact form at http://linnix.com/proto > >> >> can not wait to for our discussion. >> > >This is for a custom infra-red motion sensor. > >We will be using micro mirrors to focus and track infra-red signals. >The concept is nothing new, but we are building them in microns. >There will be many micromachined mirrors controlled by electro-static >actuators. Using 15V (out of max. 20V process) drivers, we can move >actuators by a few microns. > >The ASIC (assisted by an external mutual inductors) will charge pump >and store the energy needed to move the actuators. > >I am adding this discussion to sci.electronics.design, where some of >the ideas have been discussed.
Now that's cool. MEMS motion sensors. Similar, I suppose, to the TI electrostatic (?) micro mirror imaging technology. Is this a military application? Best regards, Spehro Pefhany -- "it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com
Reply by linnix April 8, 20082008-04-08
On Apr 7, 7:14 pm, "raedarrar" <i...@0-800.tv> wrote:
> Guys, i liked the idea! > > Linnix send me an email to i...@0-800.tv to discuss it. Do not forget to > put your info. contact.
My posting email is invalid. The best way is to send me a message using the contact form at http://linnix.com/proto
> > can not wait to for our discussion. >
This is for a custom infra-red motion sensor. We will be using micro mirrors to focus and track infra-red signals. The concept is nothing new, but we are building them in microns. There will be many micromachined mirrors controlled by electro-static actuators. Using 15V (out of max. 20V process) drivers, we can move actuators by a few microns. The ASIC (assisted by an external mutual inductors) will charge pump and store the energy needed to move the actuators. I am adding this discussion to sci.electronics.design, where some of the ideas have been discussed.
Reply by raedarrar April 7, 20082008-04-07
Guys, i liked the idea!

Linnix send me an email to info@0-800.tv to discuss it. Do not forget to
put your info. contact.

can not wait to for our discussion.

Will chat tomorrow. 


Good night guys, 
Reply by Joerg April 7, 20082008-04-07
linnix wrote:
>> It's either uC or ASIC, not both. And as Linnix mentioned, don't forget >> assembly. The ASIC will require some six-digit NRE which has to be >> amortized over a few years and thus added to the cost. > > Or other customers to share the NRE. We have customers willing and > able to start doing it. >
Yep. Maybe Raed and you should really talk about it.
>> The uC will take >> lots of searching, negotiating, someone has to program it and that >> person should preferably understand Japanese or Chinese, depending on >> where you buy the uC from. > > You must be reading my mind. The LCD is Japanese technology > implemented in Shenzhen, China. The ASIC fab is in Shanghai, China. >
The old war grudges seem to be forgotten when it comes to business. Some of my designs are in production at a Chinese-Japanese (!) joint venture in Shenzen. At first I didn't think that was possible.
>> And ideally be able to communicate in that >> language over the phone as well. > > They speak/write some English, but sometimes you have to guess. For > example: "Past 10 months" means "Last October". That was easy, since > I only met them 6 months ago. >
Or the moon of shuang jiang in the year of the boar? And avoid the days mentioned as problematic in the tong shu almanac ;-) -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/
Reply by raedarrar April 7, 20082008-04-07
>linnix wrote: >>> As I mentioned before one option would be to use on-chip comparators >>> and a kind of "touch key". You'd set the touch key to VCC/2 via two
18M
>>> resistors or thereabouts, then from there to the comp input via
another
>>> 1M (for some ESD protection). The other input of the comp would get
an
>>> RC filtered PWM from the timer. You'll have to detect excursions in >>> either direction because you won't know the charge polarity of an >>> approaching hand. Just a thought, try it out. >>> >> >> For near detection, I would use op-amp based capacitive detector. >> >> For far detection, I would use infra-red sensor with micro-actuated >> mirrors. >> > >Agreed, although you can sense pretty far with a capacitive sensor as >long as the movement is swift enough. > > >> Both can easily be integrated into the ASIC. >> >> By the way, we will be building them on 150mm SOI wafers. >> The ASIC will charge pump/regulate the battery supply to >> 3V for the digital circuits and 15V for the precision analog circuits. > > >Nice! If this is for the device with teh LCD on there maybe Raed could >actually use your chip, or the whole device? > >-- >Regards, Joerg > >http://www.analogconsultants.com/ >
Guys i can not tell how much i really thank you. Linnix i have just sent you an email as i would love to hear more in details on this theory. Please check your email. Regards, Raed
Reply by linnix April 7, 20082008-04-07
> It's either uC or ASIC, not both. And as Linnix mentioned, don't forget > assembly. The ASIC will require some six-digit NRE which has to be > amortized over a few years and thus added to the cost.
Or other customers to share the NRE. We have customers willing and able to start doing it.
> The uC will take > lots of searching, negotiating, someone has to program it and that > person should preferably understand Japanese or Chinese, depending on > where you buy the uC from.
You must be reading my mind. The LCD is Japanese technology implemented in Shenzhen, China. The ASIC fab is in Shanghai, China.
> And ideally be able to communicate in that > language over the phone as well.
They speak/write some English, but sometimes you have to guess. For example: "Past 10 months" means "Last October". That was easy, since I only met them 6 months ago.