On Apr 16, 9:06 pm, Jim Stewart <jstew...@jkmicro.com> wrote:
> ian.o...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Apr 15, 6:49 pm, "FreeRTOS.org" <noem...@given.com> wrote:
> >> One of the most common I receive - "Can you help me run Linux on my 805=
1",
> >> or more often than not "Can u plz give me source code for Linux on my 8=
051,
> >> waiting your reply. Urgent. Thx".
>
> >> I've just been looking at the search stats for last month on the
> >> FreeRTOS.org site, and believe it or not, the number one search with mo=
re
> >> than 50 entries (so more than once a day!) is "Linux 8051". I would ho=
pe
> >> that some of these searches were people looking for 8051 tools that wou=
ld
> >> run on a Linux host, but I know most are not. Who are these people - a=
nd
> >> what products are they working on (I want to make sure I don't buy one)=
.
>
> >> Anybody else like to share some gems?
>
> >> --
> >> Regards,
> >> Richard.
>
> >> +http://www.FreeRTOS.org&http://www.FreeRTOS.org/shop
> >> 17 official architecture ports, more than 5000 downloads per month.
>
> >> +http://www.SafeRTOS.com
> >> Certified by T=DCV as meeting the requirements for safety related syste=
ms.
>
> > I work on satellite data modems that transmit short data bursts with a
> > data rate
> > less than 10 bytes per second. I have often received enquiries about
> > sending
> > voice, image and even video data using these devices.
>
> Do your own salespeople ever ask that?
Only once ;-)
Reply by Jim Stewart●April 16, 20082008-04-16
ian.okey@gmail.com wrote:
> On Apr 15, 6:49 pm, "FreeRTOS.org" <noem...@given.com> wrote:
>> One of the most common I receive - "Can you help me run Linux on my 8051",
>> or more often than not "Can u plz give me source code for Linux on my 8051,
>> waiting your reply. Urgent. Thx".
>>
>> I've just been looking at the search stats for last month on the
>> FreeRTOS.org site, and believe it or not, the number one search with more
>> than 50 entries (so more than once a day!) is "Linux 8051". I would hope
>> that some of these searches were people looking for 8051 tools that would
>> run on a Linux host, but I know most are not. Who are these people - and
>> what products are they working on (I want to make sure I don't buy one).
>>
>> Anybody else like to share some gems?
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Richard.
>>
>> +http://www.FreeRTOS.org&http://www.FreeRTOS.org/shop
>> 17 official architecture ports, more than 5000 downloads per month.
>>
>> +http://www.SafeRTOS.com
>> Certified by T�V as meeting the requirements for safety related systems.
>
> I work on satellite data modems that transmit short data bursts with a
> data rate
> less than 10 bytes per second. I have often received enquiries about
> sending
> voice, image and even video data using these devices.
Do your own salespeople ever ask that?
Reply by Didi●April 16, 20082008-04-16
CBFalconer wrote:
> Didi wrote:
> > FreeRTOS.org wrote:
> >
> >> One of the most common I receive - "Can you help me run Linux on
> >> my 8051", or more often than not "Can u plz give me source code
> >> for Linux on my 8051, waiting your reply. Urgent. Thx".
> >> ....
> >
> > Illiteracy is gaining ground everywhere. There is less and less
> > need to do new things, enough old stuff to be consumed (except
> > food, I guess, but this could only be expected at this population
> > growth rate).
> >
> > Last few years I have seen countless "projects" being grant or
> > otherwise financed to zero result (which has been 100% predictable
> > upfront). Brainless (but connected) "managers" get cash and use
> > the few buzzwords they know (which are "windows" and "linux").
> > They pass that on to the first youths they can find cheapest to
> > simulate some work, and those youths add another one or two
> > buzzwords they know (e.g. 8051) which is all they get paid for
> > and all they ever do.
> >
> > And most of those who are really capable of doing something also
> > get sheepishly involved in the mainstream and effectively stop
> > doing anything useful as well...
> >
> > Lately I find it less easy to laugh about it as it has become by
> > far the dominant trend.
>
> Well, those of us who can remember FDR or WSC, maybe Hitler or
> Stalin, have had adequate time to get used to real English. The
> real difference is that the silly slang we saw in our youth is long
> gone. Likewise our youth.
>
> I work on satellite data modems that transmit short data bursts with a
> data rate
> less than 10 bytes per second. I have often received enquiries about
> sending
> voice, image and even video data using these devices.
A customer once set up a backup link to his ADSL line through a
satellite connection. He was very annoyed when my device, which usually
answered in less than 20 ms via the ADSL line, experienced a 10x delay
when using the very expensive backup link.
Reply by ●April 16, 20082008-04-16
On Apr 15, 6:49 pm, "FreeRTOS.org" <noem...@given.com> wrote:
> One of the most common I receive - "Can you help me run Linux on my 8051",=
> or more often than not "Can u plz give me source code for Linux on my 8051=
,
> waiting your reply. Urgent. Thx".
>
> I've just been looking at the search stats for last month on the
> FreeRTOS.org site, and believe it or not, the number one search with more
> than 50 entries (so more than once a day!) is "Linux 8051". I would hope
> that some of these searches were people looking for 8051 tools that would
> run on a Linux host, but I know most are not. Who are these people - and
> what products are they working on (I want to make sure I don't buy one).
>
> Anybody else like to share some gems?
>
> --
> Regards,
> Richard.
>
> +http://www.FreeRTOS.org&http://www.FreeRTOS.org/shop
> 17 official architecture ports, more than 5000 downloads per month.
>
> +http://www.SafeRTOS.com
> Certified by T=DCV as meeting the requirements for safety related systems.=
I work on satellite data modems that transmit short data bursts with a
data rate
less than 10 bytes per second. I have often received enquiries about
sending
voice, image and even video data using these devices.
Ian
http://www.satamatics.com
Reply by sprocket●April 16, 20082008-04-16
FreeRTOS.org wrote:
> One of the most common I receive - "Can you help me run Linux on my 8051",
> or more often than not "Can u plz give me source code for Linux on my 8051,
> waiting your reply. Urgent. Thx".
>
That's eay-peasy! Just add an 80x86 coprocessor module with 256kB RAM
and a hard drive. Connect coprocessor via serial port.
Reply by Neil Cherry●April 16, 20082008-04-16
On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 17:54:45 -0400, CBFalconer wrote:
> Didi wrote:
>> FreeRTOS.org wrote:
>>
>>> One of the most common I receive - "Can you help me run Linux on
>>> my 8051", or more often than not "Can u plz give me source code
>>> for Linux on my 8051, waiting your reply. Urgent. Thx".
I haven't been asked this yet. I guess I've been lucky I seem to get
all the folks who are working on a Masters Degree. They ask for
opinions on a subject. Many times I'm a little leary to answer since
they tend to know more about the subject than I do. :-)
>> Illiteracy is gaining ground everywhere. There is less and less
>> need to do new things, enough old stuff to be consumed (except
>> food, I guess, but this could only be expected at this population
>> growth rate).
> Well, those of us who can remember FDR or WSC, maybe Hitler or
> Stalin, have had adequate time to get used to real English. The
> real difference is that the silly slang we saw in our youth is long
> gone. Likewise our youth.
I remember taking a programming class with a nice young lady. She was
smart yet she submitted work with 'texting language'. I could not make
heads or tails of it and this was work to be grade (not by me, I was
also a student). I pointed this out to her and got a response similar
to those who are pro-top posting (folks let's not go there right now).
--
Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry ncherry@linuxha.com
http://www.linuxha.com/ Main site
http://linuxha.blogspot.com/ My HA Blog
Author of: Linux Smart Homes For Dummies
Reply by CBFalconer●April 15, 20082008-04-15
Didi wrote:
> FreeRTOS.org wrote:
>
>> One of the most common I receive - "Can you help me run Linux on
>> my 8051", or more often than not "Can u plz give me source code
>> for Linux on my 8051, waiting your reply. Urgent. Thx".
>> ....
>
> Illiteracy is gaining ground everywhere. There is less and less
> need to do new things, enough old stuff to be consumed (except
> food, I guess, but this could only be expected at this population
> growth rate).
>
> Last few years I have seen countless "projects" being grant or
> otherwise financed to zero result (which has been 100% predictable
> upfront). Brainless (but connected) "managers" get cash and use
> the few buzzwords they know (which are "windows" and "linux").
> They pass that on to the first youths they can find cheapest to
> simulate some work, and those youths add another one or two
> buzzwords they know (e.g. 8051) which is all they get paid for
> and all they ever do.
>
> And most of those who are really capable of doing something also
> get sheepishly involved in the mainstream and effectively stop
> doing anything useful as well...
>
> Lately I find it less easy to laugh about it as it has become by
> far the dominant trend.
Well, those of us who can remember FDR or WSC, maybe Hitler or
Stalin, have had adequate time to get used to real English. The
real difference is that the silly slang we saw in our youth is long
gone. Likewise our youth.
I fixed the above quotation. If you limit your line length to
under 72 (67 is better) you won't generate the funny lines.
--
[mail]: Chuck F (cbfalconer at maineline dot net)
[page]: <http://cbfalconer.home.att.net>
Try the download section.
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Reply by Didi●April 15, 20082008-04-15
FreeRTOS.org wrote:
> One of the most common I receive - "Can you help me run Linux on my 8051",
> or more often than not "Can u plz give me source code for Linux on my 8051,
> waiting your reply. Urgent. Thx".
>
> ....
Illiteracy is gaining ground everywhere. There is less and less need
to do
new things, enough old stuff to be consumed (except food, I guess, but
this
could only be expected at this population growth rate).
Last few years I have seen countless "projects" being grant or
otherwise
financed to zero result (which has been 100% predictable upfront).
Brainless (but connected) "managers" get cash and use the few
buzzwords
they know (which are "windows" and "linux"). They pass that on to the
first
youths they can find cheapest to simulate some work, and those youths
add
another one or two buzzwords they know (e.g. 8051) which is all they
get paid for and all they ever do.
And most of those who are really capable of doing something also get
sheepishly involved in the mainstream and effectively stop doing
anything
useful as well...
Lately I find it less easy to laugh about it as it has become by far
the
dominant trend.
Dimiter
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Original message: http://groups.google.com/group/comp.arch.embedded/msg/a3f56d0318afb458?dmode=source
Reply by ●April 15, 20082008-04-15
On Apr 15, 1:49 pm, "FreeRTOS.org" <noem...@given.com> wrote:
> One of the most common I receive - "Can you help me run Linux on my 8051",
> or more often than not "Can u plz give me source code for Linux on my 8051,
> waiting your reply. Urgent. Thx".
Well, with enough external memory it should be possible.
(Perhaps by software emulation of a processor for which it's already
been done.)
How about linux on a universal turing machine?