Reply by larwe September 5, 20082008-09-05
On Jul 31, 6:19=A0pm, Peter Harrison <peter.harri...@helicron.net>
wrote:

> Anyone got any opinion about the Raisonance tools and Rlink? Or would I
Have you played with them much? For my money, the Raisonance tools are irritatingly slow to download and start debugging.
Reply by September 5, 20082008-09-05
On 1 Aug., 23:09, Anton Erasmus <nob...@spam.prevent.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 23:19:11 +0100, Peter Harrison > > > > <peter.harri...@helicron.net> wrote: > >I am still trying to sort out a set of tools for the STM32 (and possibly > >other ARM processors). I know there have been several discussions on > >here. I have very little money as I am essentially a hobby user. > > >Raisonance RIDE7 and the ARM toolit provide what appears to be a good > >IDE and a version of the GNU ARM tools. It is free and unrestricted. So > >far I quite like it. To program and debug a real target from within > >RIDE, it seems I would need an RLINK JTAG device at about =A355. Debuggi=
ng
> >would be limited to 32k of code. If I didn't want to debug the target > >and could live with a simulator, I can use the free ST serial bootloader > >software but that is a bit clunky. > > >I have a restricted version of IAR workbench and a J-Link JTAG device. > >The restriction is 32k generated code but I think the debugging is > >unrestricted. This works very well but I certainly can't afford a full > >version of the IAR compiler and the IDE is a bit stone-age. > > >There is Rowley Crossworks. It all seems to look good and I can use the > >J-Link that I have. The personal license is =A388 and is unrestricted > >apart from the non-profit constraint. I believe Rowley also use the GNU > >tools. > > >I definitely don't want to be messing with a bunch of different tools > >for different purposes if I can help it at all. > > >It looks like my most cost-effecive option for an integrated set of > >tools is Raisonance and the expense of a 32k debugging limit which I can > >live with. My projects are small robots and interactive debugging is > >tricky when they are dashing about. > > >Anyone got any opinion about the Raisonance tools and Rlink? Or would I > >be better off stumping up for the Rowley tools and use my J-Link? > > If you are considering the Luminary Cortex-M3 devices, then you can > get an IDE with an unlimited version of gcc with a dev-kit. The IDE is > from Code-Red.http://www.code-red-tech.comDebugging is unlimted > for the MCU on the dev kit PCB. Any luminary dev kit is also a JTAG > programmer and debugger for your own hardware. For the debugging you > need a full license from Code-red, but the programming works. Code Red > provide a non intrusive view of your running app on the Cortex-M3. > i.e. there is no slowdown or impact on your code at all, but they can > provide register content, profiling, interrupt stastistics etc. The > new version will have global memory location reading as well. > > Regards > =A0 Anton Erasmus
I was wondering if the tools from Raisonance (Ride7 and RLink9 can be used to program/debug the LuminaryMicro devices too? Does anybody has experience with that? Raisonace does not officialy support LuminaryMicro. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Guenter
Reply by Anton Erasmus August 1, 20082008-08-01
On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 23:19:11 +0100, Peter Harrison
<peter.harrison@helicron.net> wrote:

>I am still trying to sort out a set of tools for the STM32 (and possibly >other ARM processors). I know there have been several discussions on >here. I have very little money as I am essentially a hobby user. > >Raisonance RIDE7 and the ARM toolit provide what appears to be a good >IDE and a version of the GNU ARM tools. It is free and unrestricted. So >far I quite like it. To program and debug a real target from within >RIDE, it seems I would need an RLINK JTAG device at about &#2013266083;55. Debugging >would be limited to 32k of code. If I didn't want to debug the target >and could live with a simulator, I can use the free ST serial bootloader >software but that is a bit clunky. > >I have a restricted version of IAR workbench and a J-Link JTAG device. >The restriction is 32k generated code but I think the debugging is >unrestricted. This works very well but I certainly can't afford a full >version of the IAR compiler and the IDE is a bit stone-age. > >There is Rowley Crossworks. It all seems to look good and I can use the >J-Link that I have. The personal license is &#2013266083;88 and is unrestricted >apart from the non-profit constraint. I believe Rowley also use the GNU >tools. > >I definitely don't want to be messing with a bunch of different tools >for different purposes if I can help it at all. > >It looks like my most cost-effecive option for an integrated set of >tools is Raisonance and the expense of a 32k debugging limit which I can >live with. My projects are small robots and interactive debugging is >tricky when they are dashing about. > >Anyone got any opinion about the Raisonance tools and Rlink? Or would I >be better off stumping up for the Rowley tools and use my J-Link? >
If you are considering the Luminary Cortex-M3 devices, then you can get an IDE with an unlimited version of gcc with a dev-kit. The IDE is from Code-Red. http://www.code-red-tech.com Debugging is unlimted for the MCU on the dev kit PCB. Any luminary dev kit is also a JTAG programmer and debugger for your own hardware. For the debugging you need a full license from Code-red, but the programming works. Code Red provide a non intrusive view of your running app on the Cortex-M3. i.e. there is no slowdown or impact on your code at all, but they can provide register content, profiling, interrupt stastistics etc. The new version will have global memory location reading as well. Regards Anton Erasmus
Reply by Peter Harrison July 31, 20082008-07-31
I am still trying to sort out a set of tools for the STM32 (and possibly 
other ARM processors). I know there have been several discussions on 
here. I have very little money as I am essentially a hobby user.

Raisonance RIDE7 and the ARM toolit provide what appears to be a good 
IDE and a version of the GNU ARM tools. It is free and unrestricted. So 
far I quite like it. To program and debug a real target from within 
RIDE, it seems I would need an RLINK JTAG device at about &#2013266083;55. Debugging 
would be limited to 32k of code. If I didn't want to debug the target 
and could live with a simulator, I can use the free ST serial bootloader 
software but that is a bit clunky.

I have a restricted version of IAR workbench and a J-Link JTAG device. 
The restriction is 32k generated code but I think the debugging is 
unrestricted. This works very well but I certainly can't afford a full 
version of the IAR compiler and the IDE is a bit stone-age.

There is Rowley Crossworks. It all seems to look good and I can use the 
J-Link that I have. The personal license is &#2013266083;88 and is unrestricted 
apart from the non-profit constraint. I believe Rowley also use the GNU 
tools.

I definitely don't want to be messing with a bunch of different tools 
for different purposes if I can help it at all.

It looks like my most cost-effecive option for an integrated set of 
tools is Raisonance and the expense of a 32k debugging limit which I can 
live with. My projects are small robots and interactive debugging is 
tricky when they are dashing about.

Anyone got any opinion about the Raisonance tools and Rlink? Or would I 
be better off stumping up for the Rowley tools and use my J-Link?

Pete Harrison