Mac and BX-24

Started by tsprap April 9, 2005

This is just a sugestion. I'm mainly a Mac user and don't like
switching between Mac & PC to program the BasicX. Couldn't NetMedia
make a Mac version of their editor/downloader? I would make my own, but
i'm a novice in progrmaing C/C++, Java, or RealBasic on a computer.




--- In basicx@basi..., "tsprap" <tsprap@y...> wrote:
> I'm mainly a Mac user and don't like switching between Mac & PC to
> program the BasicX.

Are you using OS X? Have you tried any of the Window emulators that
run on OS X? I don't know if this would be productive to try or not.

Don



--- In basicx@basi..., "Don Kinzer" <dkinzer@e...> wrote:

> Are you using OS X? Have you tried any of the Window emulators that
> run on OS X? I don't know if this would be productive to try or not.
>
> Don

Yes and yes but the eluminaters cost around $130. I wanted something
where i don't have to use any extra software other then the actual
Downloader/compiler.

I have a question 4 NetMedia. what language do you make your software
with. (c/c++ ect.) Is it possible to just use the source code and
recompile on a Mac?




Right now the software appears to be designed for PC only.

Have you considered using a VNC client(free) to control your PC from
your Mac. You will have to network them together.
It also works if you want to control a windows pc from unix or linux.
You will require VNC client for your mac and a VNC server for your PC.

download link for vnc clients.
http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/9261
http://www.realvnc.com/resources.html

download for vnc server for pc.
http://www.realvnc.com/products/free/4.0/download.html

RR --- In basicx@basi..., "tsprap" <tsprap@y...> wrote:
>
> --- In basicx@basi..., "Don Kinzer" <dkinzer@e...> wrote:
>
> > Are you using OS X? Have you tried any of the Window emulators
that
> > run on OS X? I don't know if this would be productive to try or
not.
> >
> > Don
>
> Yes and yes but the eluminaters cost around $130. I wanted something
> where i don't have to use any extra software other then the actual
> Downloader/compiler.
>
> I have a question 4 NetMedia. what language do you make your software
> with. (c/c++ ect.) Is it possible to just use the source code and
> recompile on a Mac?




--- In basicx@basi..., "raunig2003" <raunig2003@y...> wrote:
Well, i guess i'll get a used eluminater.aka ebay Or some how find a
way to make the Downloader/editor program on a Mac

>
> Right now the software appears to be designed for PC only.
>
> Have you considered using a VNC client(free) to control your PC
from
> your Mac. You will have to network them together.
> It also works if you want to control a windows pc from unix or
linux.
> You will require VNC client for your mac and a VNC server for your
PC.
>
> download link for vnc clients.
> http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/9261
> http://www.realvnc.com/resources.html
>
> download for vnc server for pc.
> http://www.realvnc.com/products/free/4.0/download.html
>
> RR > --- In basicx@basi..., "tsprap" <tsprap@y...> wrote:
> >
> > --- In basicx@basi..., "Don Kinzer" <dkinzer@e...> wrote:
> >
> > > Are you using OS X? Have you tried any of the Window emulators
> that
> > > run on OS X? I don't know if this would be productive to try
or
> not.
> > >
> > > Don
> >
> > Yes and yes but the eluminaters cost around $130. I wanted
something
> > where i don't have to use any extra software other then the
actual
> > Downloader/compiler.
> >
> > I have a question 4 NetMedia. what language do you make your
software
> > with. (c/c++ ect.) Is it possible to just use the source code and
> > recompile on a Mac?



And while they are at it they could make versions for the C64, ATARI800,
TRS-80 and TI99...

-----Original Message-----
From: tsprap [mailto:tsprap@tspr...]
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 8:00 PM
To: basicx@basi...
Subject: [BasicX] Mac and BX-24
This is just a sugestion. I'm mainly a Mac user and don't like
switching between Mac & PC to program the BasicX. Couldn't NetMedia
make a Mac version of their editor/downloader? I would make my own, but
i'm a novice in progrmaing C/C++, Java, or RealBasic on a computer.
Yahoo! Groups Links



Umm, there is a great attitude. I have just started working with the BasicX and Basic
Stamps again after a couple of years of doing other projects. One of my main problems
has always been no native mac support for the program uploaders. The mac is a very
viable platform, very well suited for this sort of application. I was originally working on a
realbasic app for the mac, and the stamps. Now with the Parallax PBASIC Tokenizer
Library and macbs2 it is very easy to program those. NetMedia, from what I have seen has
no support for any *nix system. A simple downloader is not to complicated, and if I can
find the time I will see if I can put one together. The goal would be to write one *nix
compatible serial downloader, even if you have to use the os x terminal and a great text
editor like TextWrangler / BBEdit, it would be a start.

VNC is not a real option for me, because I do a lot of this from a PowerBook. Virtual PC is a
ridiculous option because of the bloated over head that has to run for essentially a text
editor and serial connection. Ouch.. To lump a request for basic mac support with C64,
TRS-80, etc... is foolish. Integrating control of a stamp, with things such as shell scripting,
and applescript become pretty awesome once we have a quick and dirty way to natively
upload to the BasicX...

tsprap, look at the stamps again, and brainstems by acroname. You will find osx support
there. Even if not native to the company, at least the community seems more open.

--- In basicx@basi..., "James R. Parish" <homer@j...> wrote:
> And while they are at it they could make versions for the C64, ATARI800,
> TRS-80 and TI99...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tsprap [mailto:tsprap@y...]
> Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 8:00 PM
> To: basicx@basi...
> Subject: [BasicX] Mac and BX-24 >
> This is just a sugestion. I'm mainly a Mac user and don't like
> switching between Mac & PC to program the BasicX. Couldn't NetMedia
> make a Mac version of their editor/downloader? I would make my own, but
> i'm a novice in progrmaing C/C++, Java, or RealBasic on a computer. >
> Yahoo! Groups Links



> ... at least the community seems more open...

Is that due to one person's comment?

Is there some fault in a manufacturer choosing which platforms to
support? If you operated a business, would the following typical
headline entice you to invest in tools for Macs?

"Apple Could Grow Global PC Market Share To 5% In 2005"
http://www.forbes.com/markets/2005/03/18/0318automarketscan10.html Tom
Tom Becker
--... ...--
GTBecker@GTBe... www.RighTime.com
The RighTime Clock Company, Inc., Cape Coral, Florida USA
+1239 540 5700



Good point. Your right, my comment was based more on one persons comments. My
choice in words could have been better. I have no problem with a company choosing to
support one platform or another. They need to do what is right for their business,
absolutely. My point is that it may make good business sense to provide some type of
support for alternative (non Windows) operating systems. The community of people who
use linux, and develop tool for linux, are also the same group of people who could and
would be interested in products like this. Especially if there basic support or an open
framework to access the hardware. If you think solely in terms of market share then and
only look at those numbers, then you are missing a large part of the "likely" group of
product users. Windows has a huge installed base, and massive market share. But look at
it in terms of percentage of population. DIY users who use linux would be more attracted
to projects like this than the average home/business windows user. This is just the nature
of the population of users right now. Whether or not it makes business sense is something
a business needs to weigh. Personally, if the cool things that can be done with these
things was better known to a wider group of more likely customers, growth would be
inevitable. As a consumer we weigh value differently. For me, as a multi platform user, I
hold great value in products that give me the freedom to choose where and how I use it.
The openness and accessibility of the NetMedia products is very cool. The diy nature of
their products is a perfect example of niche product that doen't have to be so niche. Make
the hardware accessible on other platforms, the word will get out, NetMedia will sell more
product and the community will grow. I am excited to be building with these again.

Is there documentation on how the serial interface is accessed? Protocol, compiling, etc... I
have not taken the time to look in a long while, but if it is, I will see if I can put something
together. For the community, and the users of non windows os'es --- In basicx@basi..., "Tom Becker" <gtbecker@r...> wrote:
> > ... at least the community seems more open...
>
> Is that due to one person's comment?
>
> Is there some fault in a manufacturer choosing which platforms to
> support? If you operated a business, would the following typical
> headline entice you to invest in tools for Macs?
>
> "Apple Could Grow Global PC Market Share To 5% In 2005"
> http://www.forbes.com/markets/2005/03/18/0318automarketscan10.html > Tom >
> Tom Becker
> --... ...--
> GTBecker@R... www.RighTime.com
> The RighTime Clock Company, Inc., Cape Coral, Florida USA
> +1239 540 5700



I will stand with you in line for native Linux development tools.

In the meantime, fortunately, the IDE works under Xandros Win4Lin, a
Win98SE desktop in a Linux window. I had no success encouraging the IDE
to run under CodeWeavers CrossOver, though, but - since it runs under
Win4Lin - I expect that is a matter of configuration. Tom
Tom Becker
--... ...--
GTBecker@GTBe... www.RighTime.com
The RighTime Clock Company, Inc., Cape Coral, Florida USA
+1239 540 5700