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What guage wires for BX24 Dev Station

Started by jdmongol December 1, 2008
Yes, I'm a newbie, and have not done any real prototyping as of yet.
I've experimented with the NetMedia supplied jumper cables for their
sample apps but now want to move on to building some of my own circuits.

My question is: What guage of wire should I buy to use in the
prototyping area of the dev station? I presume I can treat it like a
regular bread board, right? Or do I need special wire guage to use it
effectively?

All help is appreciated!
Literally any gauge you wish.

jdmongol wrote:
>
> Yes, I'm a newbie, and have not done any real prototyping as of yet.
> I've experimented with the NetMedia supplied jumper cables for their
> sample apps but now want to move on to building some of my own circuits.
>
> My question is: What guage of wire should I buy to use in the
> prototyping area of the dev station? I presume I can treat it like a
> regular bread board, right? Or do I need special wire guage to use it
> effectively?
>
> All help is appreciated!
>
>
> 5:53 p.m.
>

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I agree. I mistakingly used the term perf board where I
should have used solderless bread board ( the insertion type dev
board ). I too use wirewrap wire for direct soldering.
Excellent for todays small devices.

Don
--- In b..., daniel labelle wrote:
>
> I have used wirewrap wire in the past it is 30 gage. At first i
tried to use the wire wrap tool but soon started to use this type wire
just soldered from chip pin to chip pin, or component, on the back of
the perf board. I think it is a good wire for interfacing beetween
logic and driver devices or sensing devices to inputs. One precaution
I did also was always putting a back biased diode and a filter cap in
paralell with the board's supply this was for negative going spikes.
Another thing I found was to use optoisolators for potentially noisy
inputs that may have damaging effects on the input. hope this is helpfull
> ________________________________
> From: Don Lewis
> To: b...
> Sent: Wednesday, December 3, 2008 8:11:38 AM
> Subject: [BasicX] Re: What guage wires for BX24 Dev Station
> I prefer to cut varying lengths of solid copper telephone wire.
> Easily available, small enough to not damage header sockets,
> strong enough for perf boards.
>
> --- In basicx@yahoogroups. com, "jdmongol" wrote:
> >
> > Yes, I'm a newbie, and have not done any real prototyping as of yet.
> > I've experimented with the NetMedia supplied jumper cables for their
> > sample apps but now want to move on to building some of my own
circuits.
> >
> > My question is: What guage of wire should I buy to use in the
> > prototyping area of the dev station? I presume I can treat it like a
> > regular bread board, right? Or do I need special wire guage to use it
> > effectively?
> >
> > All help is appreciated!
> >
>
>
>

Don,
Thanks for the feedback. I realized that I needed to be more specific
in my question. I also wanted to know if I can do solderless
prototyping with basicX dev workstation in addition to the appropriate
gauge of wire to use.

Seems that if I solder up the dev prototyping area with my own
circuits I essentially have to toss the board when I'm done. Are
there temporary connectors I can place on the ends of my wires?

This would also apply to any ICs I purchase for prototyping. I'd like
to not solder them down and I know some of them have very small gauge
connectors.

thanks again all for your feedback.

john
--- In b..., "Don Lewis" wrote:
>
> I agree. I mistakingly used the term perf board where I
> should have used solderless bread board ( the insertion type dev
> board ). I too use wirewrap wire for direct soldering.
> Excellent for todays small devices.
>
> Don
> --- In b..., daniel labelle wrote:
> >
> > I have used wirewrap wire in the past it is 30 gage. At first i
> tried to use the wire wrap tool but soon started to use this type wire
> just soldered from chip pin to chip pin, or component, on the back of
> the perf board. I think it is a good wire for interfacing beetween
> logic and driver devices or sensing devices to inputs. One precaution
> I did also was always putting a back biased diode and a filter cap in
> paralell with the board's supply this was for negative going spikes.
> Another thing I found was to use optoisolators for potentially noisy
> inputs that may have damaging effects on the input. hope this is
helpfull
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Don Lewis
> > To: b...
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 3, 2008 8:11:38 AM
> > Subject: [BasicX] Re: What guage wires for BX24 Dev Station
> >
> >
> > I prefer to cut varying lengths of solid copper telephone wire.
> > Easily available, small enough to not damage header sockets,
> > strong enough for perf boards.
> >
> > --- In basicx@yahoogroups. com, "jdmongol" wrote:
> > >
> > > Yes, I'm a newbie, and have not done any real prototyping as of
yet.
> > > I've experimented with the NetMedia supplied jumper cables for their
> > > sample apps but now want to move on to building some of my own
> circuits.
> > >
> > > My question is: What guage of wire should I buy to use in the
> > > prototyping area of the dev station? I presume I can treat it
like a
> > > regular bread board, right? Or do I need special wire guage to
use it
> > > effectively?
> > >
> > > All help is appreciated!
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
Daniel,
Thank you for your suggestions. In reviewing the BasicX Development
Station circuit diagram, it appears NetMedia included the back biased
diode (D9) along with capacitors to prevent voltage drop and / or
signal ripple. That was one of my reasons for going the Development
Station route because I knew they'd cover some of these important
details that a novice like me would potentially neglect and fry my board.

I have only seen optoisolators in the context of circuits that needed
segregation due to differing voltages (e.g. a DC microcontroller board
running an AC universal motor) but your suggestion sounds like good
advice regardless.

John

--- In b..., daniel labelle wrote:
>
> I have used wirewrap wire in the past it is 30 gage. At first i
tried to use the wire wrap tool but soon started to use this type wire
just soldered from chip pin to chip pin, or component, on the back of
the perf board. I think it is a good wire for interfacing beetween
logic and driver devices or sensing devices to inputs. One precaution
I did also was always putting a back biased diode and a filter cap in
paralell with the board's supply this was for negative going spikes.
Another thing I found was to use optoisolators for potentially noisy
inputs that may have damaging effects on the input. hope this is helpfull
> ________________________________
> From: Don Lewis
> To: b...
> Sent: Wednesday, December 3, 2008 8:11:38 AM
> Subject: [BasicX] Re: What guage wires for BX24 Dev Station
> I prefer to cut varying lengths of solid copper telephone wire.
> Easily available, small enough to not damage header sockets,
> strong enough for perf boards.
>
> --- In basicx@yahoogroups. com, "jdmongol" wrote:
> >
> > Yes, I'm a newbie, and have not done any real prototyping as of yet.
> > I've experimented with the NetMedia supplied jumper cables for their
> > sample apps but now want to move on to building some of my own
circuits.
> >
> > My question is: What guage of wire should I buy to use in the
> > prototyping area of the dev station? I presume I can treat it like a
> > regular bread board, right? Or do I need special wire guage to use it
> > effectively?
> >
> > All help is appreciated!
> >
>
>
>

you could use header pins soldered into the dev board. Solder
ic sockets underneath to the headers. Use 18 or 20 pin sockets
and place smaller ic's to the pin 1 end so you can use, say,
14 thru 20 pin IC's. Use a pair of 20 pin header strip.
There are header jumpers available or you can, arghh, make
your own.

happy developing,
Don Lewis
----------------
--- In b..., "jdmongol" wrote:
>
> Don,
> Thanks for the feedback. I realized that I needed to be more specific
> in my question. I also wanted to know if I can do solderless
> prototyping with basicX dev workstation in addition to the appropriate
> gauge of wire to use.
>
> Seems that if I solder up the dev prototyping area with my own
> circuits I essentially have to toss the board when I'm done. Are
> there temporary connectors I can place on the ends of my wires?
>
> This would also apply to any ICs I purchase for prototyping. I'd like
> to not solder them down and I know some of them have very small gauge
> connectors.
>
> thanks again all for your feedback.
>
> john
> --- In b..., "Don Lewis" wrote:
> >
> > I agree. I mistakingly used the term perf board where I
> > should have used solderless bread board ( the insertion type dev
> > board ). I too use wirewrap wire for direct soldering.
> > Excellent for todays small devices.
> >
> > Don
> >
> >
> > --- In b..., daniel labelle wrote:
> > >
> > > I have used wirewrap wire in the past it is 30 gage. At first i
> > tried to use the wire wrap tool but soon started to use this type wire
> > just soldered from chip pin to chip pin, or component, on the back of
> > the perf board. I think it is a good wire for interfacing beetween
> > logic and driver devices or sensing devices to inputs. One precaution
> > I did also was always putting a back biased diode and a filter cap in
> > paralell with the board's supply this was for negative going spikes.
> > Another thing I found was to use optoisolators for potentially noisy
> > inputs that may have damaging effects on the input. hope this is
> helpfull
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: Don Lewis
> > > To: b...
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 3, 2008 8:11:38 AM
> > > Subject: [BasicX] Re: What guage wires for BX24 Dev Station
> > >
> > >
> > > I prefer to cut varying lengths of solid copper telephone wire.
> > > Easily available, small enough to not damage header sockets,
> > > strong enough for perf boards.
> > >
> > > --- In basicx@yahoogroups. com, "jdmongol" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Yes, I'm a newbie, and have not done any real prototyping as of
> yet.
> > > > I've experimented with the NetMedia supplied jumper cables for
their
> > > > sample apps but now want to move on to building some of my own
> > circuits.
> > > >
> > > > My question is: What guage of wire should I buy to use in the
> > > > prototyping area of the dev station? I presume I can treat it
> like a
> > > > regular bread board, right? Or do I need special wire guage to
> use it
> > > > effectively?
> > > >
> > > > All help is appreciated!
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>