ATmega Slugs Sparkfun just got lumbered with counterfeit ATmega328s: http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/news.php?id=350 Makes for interesting reading. Check out the comments also. Cheers Don... -- Don McKenzie Site Map: http://www.dontronics.com/sitemap E-Mail Contact Page: http://www.dontronics.com/email Web Camera Page: http://www.dontronics.com/webcam No More Damn Spam: http://www.dontronics.com/spam These products will reduce in price by 5% every month: http://www.dontronics-shop.com/minus-5-every-month.html
Counterfeit ATmega328s
Started by ●April 23, 2010
Reply by ●April 23, 20102010-04-23
Don McKenzie wrote:> > ATmega Slugs > > Sparkfun just got lumbered with counterfeit ATmega328s: > http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/news.php?id=350 > > Makes for interesting reading. Check out the comments also.just followed through a little more: http://www.hkinventory.com/public/ReportedCompanyDetail.asp?ID=710 name of the rip off company is: Shenzhen Henglian Electronics Co. Cheers Don... -- Don McKenzie Site Map: http://www.dontronics.com/sitemap E-Mail Contact Page: http://www.dontronics.com/email Web Camera Page: http://www.dontronics.com/webcam No More Damn Spam: http://www.dontronics.com/spam These products will reduce in price by 5% every month: http://www.dontronics-shop.com/minus-5-every-month.html
Reply by ●April 24, 20102010-04-24
On 23 Apr, 21:50, Don McKenzie <5...@2.5A> wrote:> ATmega Slugs > > Sparkfun just got lumbered with counterfeit ATmega328s:http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/news.php?id=350 > > Makes for interesting reading. Check out the comments also."Sparkfun sells counterfeit ICs" isn't a headline I would like to see if I was running a company... :) Surprisingly, some people actually seem to be buying them...
Reply by ●April 24, 20102010-04-24
Bob wrote:> "Sparkfun sells counterfeit ICs" isn't a headline I would like to see > if I was running a company... :) > > Surprisingly, some people actually seem to be buying them...Yes, of course: buy it for $0.50 and sell it for $5.00 on eBay :-) But the comments clarifies it: Sparkfun was very naive in thinking it could be used for soldering training and removed it very fast from their shop. -- Frank Buss, fb@frank-buss.de http://www.frank-buss.de, http://www.it4-systems.de
Reply by ●April 24, 20102010-04-24
On 4/24/2010 7:00 PM, Frank Buss wrote:> Bob wrote: > >> "Sparkfun sells counterfeit ICs" isn't a headline I would like to see >> if I was running a company... :) >> >> Surprisingly, some people actually seem to be buying them... > > Yes, of course: buy it for $0.50 and sell it for $5.00 on eBay :-) > But the comments clarifies it: Sparkfun was very naive in thinking it could > be used for soldering training and removed it very fast from their shop. >Yeah probably no good for solder training either, probably won't tin properly etc
Reply by ●April 25, 20102010-04-25
"Ray" <ray@mrjones.id.au> wrote in message news:4bd370e0$0$8780$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...> On 4/24/2010 7:00 PM, Frank Buss wrote: >> Bob wrote: >> >>> "Sparkfun sells counterfeit ICs" isn't a headline I would like to see >>> if I was running a company... :) >>> >>> Surprisingly, some people actually seem to be buying them... >> >> Yes, of course: buy it for $0.50 and sell it for $5.00 on eBay :-) >> But the comments clarifies it: Sparkfun was very naive in thinking it >> could >> be used for soldering training and removed it very fast from their shop. >> > Yeah probably no good for solder training either, probably won't tin > properly etcIt is a big problem in the industry and the longer the lead times get, the more the counterfeiters benefit
Reply by ●April 25, 20102010-04-25
On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 08:29:45 +1000, Ray <ray@mrjones.id.au> wrote:>Yeah probably no good for solder training either, probably won't tin >properly etcThey got that just like good components then... -- Geo
Reply by ●April 26, 20102010-04-26
"Bill Naylor" <rubbish@ectronworks.co.uk> wrote> >"Ray" <ray@mrjones.id.au> wrote in message >news:4bd370e0$0$8780$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com... >> On 4/24/2010 7:00 PM, Frank Buss wrote: >>> Bob wrote: >>> >>>> "Sparkfun sells counterfeit ICs" isn't a headline I would like to see >>>> if I was running a company... :) >>>> >>>> Surprisingly, some people actually seem to be buying them... >>> >>> Yes, of course: buy it for $0.50 and sell it for $5.00 on eBay :-) >>> But the comments clarifies it: Sparkfun was very naive in thinking it >>> could >>> be used for soldering training and removed it very fast from their shop. >>> >> Yeah probably no good for solder training either, probably won't tin >> properly etc > >It is a big problem in the industry and the longer the lead times get, the >more the counterfeiters benefit >It is a HUGE problem. Hitachi (Renesas) suffer from it too. It is usually visually obvious by looking at the package. The people doing this are pretty stupid.
Reply by ●April 27, 20102010-04-27
Don McKenzie wrote:> > ATmega Slugs > > Sparkfun just got lumbered with counterfeit ATmega328s: > http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/news.php?id=350 > > Makes for interesting reading. Check out the comments also. > > Cheers Don...Sparkfun needs to raise hell over this. They need to contact Atmel, the office of the U.S. Trade Representative, and the trade attache of the Embassy of China. Point out how counterfeiting invites trade sanctions. Since the USTR is currently pushing the "Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement", ask what sanctions would be appropriate here. For example, seizing all shipments into the US from that vendor might be appropriate. John Nagle
Reply by ●April 28, 20102010-04-28
John Nagle wrote:> Don McKenzie wrote: >> >> ATmega Slugs >> >> Sparkfun just got lumbered with counterfeit ATmega328s: >> http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/news.php?id=350 >> >> Makes for interesting reading. Check out the comments also. >> >> Cheers Don... > > Sparkfun needs to raise hell over this. They need to contact > Atmel, the office of the U.S. Trade Representative, and the trade > attache of the Embassy of China. Point out how counterfeiting > invites trade sanctions. Since the USTR is currently pushing > the "Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement", ask what sanctions > would be appropriate here. For example, seizing all shipments into > the US from that vendor might be appropriate.I agree 100% John, Quoting SF: "We were in a pinch and didn't vet the supplier like we should have. Live and learn." Doesn't sound like SK may be going to pursue this, YET THEY MUST. We as customers, are paying for it after all. A well known Atmel employee already reads and posts to comp.robotics.misc, so I would think that Atmel will be aware by now. Cheers Don... -- Don McKenzie Site Map: http://www.dontronics.com/sitemap E-Mail Contact Page: http://www.dontronics.com/email Web Camera Page: http://www.dontronics.com/webcam No More Damn Spam: http://www.dontronics.com/spam These products will reduce in price by 5% every month: http://www.dontronics-shop.com/minus-5-every-month.html