Editor recommendation

What editor would you recommend for code development?
Looking for something that understands C & C++ syntax, can define
projects, run external compilations, etc. and has active support.
My choice would be CodeWrite, (if it was still supported.)
For some reason never got used to Emacs, and Eclipse is too ginormous
for my taste.

Alternatives?

Thanks,
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Roberto Waltman

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On 28/08/13 22:18, Roberto Waltman wrote:
>
> What editor would you recommend for code development?
> Looking for something that understands C & C++ syntax, can define
> projects, run external compilations, etc. and has active support.
> My choice would be CodeWrite, (if it was still supported.)
> For some reason never got used to Emacs, and Eclipse is too ginormous
> for my taste.
>
> Alternatives?
>

I used to find Eclipse too big, slow and clumsy - but it has improved 
enormously in the last couple of years.  If it is a while since you last 
used it, I recommend trying again with the latest version.

On 08/28/13 20:46, David Brown wrote:
> On 28/08/13 22:18, Roberto Waltman wrote:
>>
>> What editor would you recommend for code development?
>> Looking for something that understands C & C++ syntax, can define
>> projects, run external compilations, etc. and has active support.
>> My choice would be CodeWrite, (if it was still supported.)
>> For some reason never got used to Emacs, and Eclipse is too ginormous
>> for my taste.
>>
>> Alternatives?
>>
>
> I used to find Eclipse too big, slow and clumsy - but it has improved
> enormously in the last couple of years. If it is a while since you last
> used it, I recommend trying again with the latest version.
>
>

I've used nedit for years. Development stopped years ago, but it is open
source, so you can modify as you wish. Is language sensitive and has loads
of setup options. The most useful thing when I started using it was the
rectangular cut and paste, which I still use all the time, though the rest
of the world has caught up meantime. unix environment required, though it
works flawlessly with cygwin on windows. I still prefer a separate editor
/ makefile system, though ides are getting better.

Notepad++ is pretty good (windows), though there are niggles. Jedit is also
worth a look as well. One or both (?) of these has plugin capability and 
both
are in active development.

All quality product, free and open source...

Chris

Roberto Waltman wrote:
>
> What editor would you recommend for code development?
> Looking for something that understands C & C++ syntax, can define
> projects, run external compilations, etc. and has active support.
> My choice would be CodeWrite, (if it was still supported.)


You can still find both SlickEdit and CodeWright. And there is a for-real
version of Brief available.


http://www.softwaremedia.com/embarcadero/codewright/
Dunno about support; I have never made a support call for
a text editor.

http://www.slickedit.com/

http://www.briefeditor.com/

> For some reason never got used to Emacs, and Eclipse is too ginormous
> for my taste.
>
> Alternatives?
>
> Thanks,
> --
> Roberto Waltman
>
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>

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Les Cargill

Hi Roberto,

On 8/28/2013 1:18 PM, Roberto Waltman wrote:
>
> What editor would you recommend for code development?
> Looking for something that understands C & C++ syntax, can define
> projects, run external compilations, etc. and has active support.

What about VCS support?

> My choice would be CodeWrite, (if it was still supported.)
> For some reason never got used to Emacs, and Eclipse is too ginormous
> for my taste.
>
> Alternatives?

I'm guessing you're working under Windows (re: your CodeWright
reference)?  Is that the *only* place where you develop code?
Or, do you also have to develop/maintain in other environments?

Under DOS (and ancient Win's), Brief was my hands-down favorite.
But, as machines got faster, Brief became unusable (IIRC, Brief
had some keyboard repeat timing loops that didn't hook the system
timer; as a result, you could *touch* a key and end up with
a screenful of that keystroke...).

CodeWright was good under Windows.  But, the GUI doesn't seem to
add much to usefullness (IMO) and can be distracting as your hands
tend to come off the keyboard too easily.

Emacs is comparable under X.  And, *can* be very helpful -- but
really only if you are writing mainstream code (i.e., something
where someone has already created a *robust* "mode").

Currently, I spend more time in simple text editors (no syntax
highlighting, macro support, etc.) because the effort to support a 
*single* editor across different development platforms (and tasks!)
is just too much work (perhaps if you have "support staff" it is
easier?)  I rely on plumbing in the window manager to move stuff
from "window" (session!) to "window" (session).

[It also gets too tedious trying to get fancier tools to coexist
with a variety of different vendor tools -- none of which appear
to have been created with any of the others in mind!  Esp when
everyone wants to make your life *easier* -- and ends up doing the
exact oppopsite!   ("No, I *don't* want all those spaces replaced
with tabs, thankyouverymuch!")]

Hi Les,

On 8/28/2013 7:22 PM, Les Cargill wrote:

> And there is a for-real version of Brief available.

Do you know if this is based on the original sources (MASM?)
or a "work-alike" (like Crisp  :< )?

Don Y wrote:
> Hi Les,
>
> On 8/28/2013 7:22 PM, Les Cargill wrote:
>
>> And there is a for-real version of Brief available.
>
> Do you know if this is based on the original sources (MASM?)

Brief was written mainly in Brief (macros).

> or a "work-alike" (like Crisp  :< )?
>

"Brief was written from the ground up in 2006 as a Windows application."
http://www.briefeditor.com/faq.htm

--
Les Cargill

On 08/28/2013 03:18 PM, Roberto Waltman wrote:
>
> What editor would you recommend for code development?
> Looking for something that understands C & C++ syntax, can define
> projects, run external compilations, etc. and has active support.
> My choice would be CodeWrite, (if it was still supported.)
> For some reason never got used to Emacs, and Eclipse is too ginormous
> for my taste.
>
> Alternatives?
>
> Thanks,
> --
> Roberto Waltman
>
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>

Try Netbeans.

https://netbeans.org/

Hi Les,

On 8/28/2013 8:28 PM, Les Cargill wrote:
> Don Y wrote:
>> On 8/28/2013 7:22 PM, Les Cargill wrote:
>>
>>> And there is a for-real version of Brief available.
>>
>> Do you know if this is based on the original sources (MASM?)
>
> Brief was written mainly in Brief (macros).

I'd have imagined the original Brief was a LISP dialect
interpreter.  E.g., the macros were C-like functions but
with LISP-like syntax.

>> or a "work-alike" (like Crisp  :< )?
>
> "Brief was written from the ground up in 2006 as a Windows application."
> http://www.briefeditor.com/faq.htm

Ah, that is unfortunate.  Not worth the bother exploring, then.  :<

On 28.8.13 11:18 , Roberto Waltman wrote:
>
> What editor would you recommend for code development?
> Looking for something that understands C & C++ syntax, can define
> projects, run external compilations, etc. and has active support.
> My choice would be CodeWrite, (if it was still supported.)
> For some reason never got used to Emacs, and Eclipse is too ginormous
> for my taste.
>
> Alternatives?
>
> Thanks,
> --
> Roberto Waltman
>
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I had the same feeling toward Eclipse, as it felt a monster when running 
on the computers of yesterday. Now, the CPU speeds and memory capacities 
are much better, and you can tune Eclipse to your heart's content.

I have run Eclipse on Mac OS X, Linux (several flavors) and Windows, and 
I'm pretty happy with the results. However, there is a hefty learning 
step to climb until one feels at home with the myriad of settings.

My old favorites were WordStar, nedit, Codewright, Smultron and kate, 
but they have all given way to Eclipse with CDT plug-in. With quite 
modern hardware (MacBook Pro of 2008), it runs well even in a virtual 
machine with Linux or Windows XP (no idea of newer windozes, however).

The CDT nag-machine is much more than bare syntax coloring, it quite 
well replaces lint, as well.

-- 

Tauno Voipio