On Thu, 26 Feb 2015 00:42:32 -0500, George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> wrote:>On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 11:50:30 -0700, Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> wrote: > >>On 2/25/2015 9:13 AM, Paul wrote: >>> Personally get old one arm bandit, say they must get 2 cherries >>> (not say which 2). >> >>I don't think that would "confound". There's no "cost" to pulling >>the arm (as there is no cost to pushing N buttons, etc.). Unlike >>the coin slot that requires the visitor to "make an investment" >>to see *if* the slot does what he *thinks* it does. > >Cover the door surface with a mosaic of coarse grinding material so >knocking will very obviously be painful. Get C's artist friends to >design something pretty. Encode a clue in the mosaic image to the >location of a disguised doorbell. > >Rig a tilt table under the porch tiles and (time delayed for those in >the know) rock the floor until they step off, fall on their ass or >press the hidden doorbell. > >GeorgeYeah, lacerate the hands and break the legs of those nasty cookie-peddling Girl Scouts. -- John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc picosecond timing laser drivers and controllers jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com http://www.highlandtechnology.com
Doorbell "button"
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Reply by ●February 26, 20152015-02-26
Reply by ●February 26, 20152015-02-26
On 2/25/2015 11:59 PM, John Larkin wrote:> On Thu, 26 Feb 2015 00:42:32 -0500, George Neuner > <gneuner2@comcast.net> wrote: > >> On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 11:50:30 -0700, Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> wrote: >> >>> On 2/25/2015 9:13 AM, Paul wrote: >>>> Personally get old one arm bandit, say they must get 2 cherries >>>> (not say which 2). >>> >>> I don't think that would "confound". There's no "cost" to pulling >>> the arm (as there is no cost to pushing N buttons, etc.). Unlike >>> the coin slot that requires the visitor to "make an investment" >>> to see *if* the slot does what he *thinks* it does. >> >> Cover the door surface with a mosaic of coarse grinding material so >> knocking will very obviously be painful. Get C's artist friends to >> design something pretty. Encode a clue in the mosaic image to the >> location of a disguised doorbell. >> >> Rig a tilt table under the porch tiles and (time delayed for those in >> the know) rock the floor until they step off, fall on their ass or >> press the hidden doorbell. >> >> George > > Yeah, lacerate the hands and break the legs of those nasty > cookie-peddling Girl Scouts.They can take it. Then they can sue.
Reply by ●February 26, 20152015-02-26
Hi George, On 2/25/2015 10:42 PM, George Neuner wrote:> On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 11:50:30 -0700, Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> wrote: > >> I don't think that would "confound". There's no "cost" to pulling >> the arm (as there is no cost to pushing N buttons, etc.). Unlike >> the coin slot that requires the visitor to "make an investment" >> to see *if* the slot does what he *thinks* it does. > > Cover the door surface with a mosaic of coarse grinding material so > knocking will very obviously be painful.Locking the gate seems like a cheaper, equally effective, alternative! I don't want to *harm*, just *confound*. "Crap! Gate is locked. No way to *get* to the door -- even to leave a leaflet!"> Get C's artist friends to design something pretty.I'm going to see if I can "tap" one of them to help me with the "lens" for the HAL9000 approach. I'd love to try making it myself but hear that glass blowing is hard on your lungs. Not sure if that is a reflection on the effort required *or* the exposure to the hot gasses (and, I think they put heavy metals in some of the glassworks?).> Encode a clue in the mosaic image to the location of a disguised doorbell.How about "Go Away!" in multicolored letters? Too subtle?> Rig a tilt table under the porch tiles and (time delayed for those in > the know) rock the floor until they step off, fall on their ass or > press the hidden doorbell.We could start gathering up the mountain lions, coyotes, bears, etc. that frequent the neighborhood and place them in a *pen* near the door...
Reply by ●February 27, 20152015-02-27
On Thu, 26 Feb 2015 12:07:32 -0700, Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> wrote:>How about "Go Away!" in multicolored letters? Too subtle?I have a doormat that says that. Although it's not really multi-colored. If it's not this one, it's darn close: https://11main.com/kitchenkapers/kitchen-kapers-go-away-mat/p/3044526?ref=DF4rcI_udU6GfakKSQwtHg&kpid=3044526&cid=cse_gg_home-%26-outdoor__%5Bpla%5D-%28ho%29_54280971275&utm_source=gg&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=_&utm_content=11_main&utm_campaign=[pla]-(ho)&ref=DF4rcI_udU6GfakKSQwtHg&kpid=3044526
Reply by ●February 27, 20152015-02-27
On Thu, 26 Feb 2015 12:07:32 -0700, Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> wrote:>Locking the gate seems like a cheaper, equally effective, alternative! >I don't want to *harm*, just *confound*.You're a softie. Long ago when I had a boat, there was a series of break-ins in the marina. Since we had shore power, I rigged the cabin door and the top hatch with a live wire connected to a model train transformer. One day I found a screwdriver jammed under the top hatch ... but whoever it was never made it inside. 8-)>We could start gathering up the mountain lions, coyotes, bears, etc. >that frequent the neighborhood and place them in a *pen* near the door...That might scare JWs but girl scouts are tougher. Need to put the coyote on the porch. Speaking of coyotes ... I haven't seen any of mine since the first snowfall. George
Reply by ●February 27, 20152015-02-27
On Thu, 26 Feb 2015 09:26:59 -0600, John S <Sophi.2@invalid.org> wrote:>On 2/25/2015 11:59 PM, John Larkin wrote: >> On Thu, 26 Feb 2015 00:42:32 -0500, George Neuner >> <gneuner2@comcast.net> wrote: >> >>> Cover the door surface with a mosaic of coarse grinding material so >>> knocking will very obviously be painful. Get C's artist friends to >>> design something pretty. Encode a clue in the mosaic image to the >>> location of a disguised doorbell. >>> >>> Rig a tilt table under the porch tiles and (time delayed for those in >>> the know) rock the floor until they step off, fall on their ass or >>> press the hidden doorbell. >>> >>> George >> >> Yeah, lacerate the hands and break the legs of those nasty >> cookie-peddling Girl Scouts. > >They can take it. Then they can sue.In most places in the US, someone who is on your property without invitation and without otherwise being permitted by law (police, fire, mail carriers, delivery people) or prior agreement (condo personnel, lawn care, etc.) has no standing to sue for injuries received on your property. The vast majority of "I slipped on your sidewalk" type lawsuits are *illegal* nuisance suits that *should* result in judicial fines for the person who sues and for their lawyer (if any) who should have known better than to file the suit in the first place. Unfortunately you need a judge willing to sanction the nuisance (and most are not). The majority of nuisance suits are dismissed without prejudice, which means that the people who file them have no record and so are free to do it again. George
Reply by ●February 27, 20152015-02-27
On 2/27/2015 3:06 AM, George Neuner wrote:> On Thu, 26 Feb 2015 12:07:32 -0700, Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> wrote: > >> Locking the gate seems like a cheaper, equally effective, alternative! >> I don't want to *harm*, just *confound*. > > You're a softie. > > Long ago when I had a boat, there was a series of break-ins in the > marina. Since we had shore power, I rigged the cabin door and the top > hatch with a live wire connected to a model train transformer. One > day I found a screwdriver jammed under the top hatch ... but whoever > it was never made it inside. 8-)We have a neighbor who is a bigot, "old farte", racist, etc. (well, of course *he* doesn't think so -- but, of all the neighbors, he is the only one who "doesn't think so". Go figure...). Decades ago, he recounted how he found flourescent lamps (tubes) in his swimming pool and large (fist sized) stones lying on the bottom of the pool. I.e., obviously, someone tossed the lamps over the fence along the side of his yard targeting the pool; then tried to shatter them with the stones. Locating shards of broken glass in your must be a difficult task (drain the pool?). It never occurred to him to wonder why this happend to *his* pool and none of the others in the neighborhood... I'm sure whatever provoked the incident (i.e., some aspect of his behavior) wasn't something that *he* would have considered "objectionable", "insulting", "provactive", etc.>> We could start gathering up the mountain lions, coyotes, bears, etc. >> that frequent the neighborhood and place them in a *pen* near the door... > > That might scare JWs but girl scouts are tougher. Need to put the > coyote on the porch.I don't think any came through the neighborhood, this year. Typically see them camped out in front of department stores, etc.> Speaking of coyotes ... I haven't seen any of mine since the first > snowfall.Rarely *see* them, here. Though hear them make a kill every couple of nights, nearby. No doubt wandering the washes through the area. No idea what C has seen hiking. At least, no tales of mountain lion encounters, recently! (though ecstatic to finally get a chance to see the baby heffalump at the zoo)
Reply by ●February 27, 20152015-02-27
On 2/26/2015 10:25 PM, Robert Wessel wrote:> On Thu, 26 Feb 2015 12:07:32 -0700, Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> wrote: > >> How about "Go Away!" in multicolored letters? Too subtle? > > I have a doormat that says that. Although it's not really > multi-colored. If it's not this one, it's darn close:Ha! Wouldn't be effective, here. (else I imagine everyone would have one!)
Reply by ●February 27, 20152015-02-27
On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 05:42:44 -0500, George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> wrote:>On Thu, 26 Feb 2015 09:26:59 -0600, John S <Sophi.2@invalid.org> >wrote: > >>On 2/25/2015 11:59 PM, John Larkin wrote: >>> On Thu, 26 Feb 2015 00:42:32 -0500, George Neuner >>> <gneuner2@comcast.net> wrote: >>> >>>> Cover the door surface with a mosaic of coarse grinding material so >>>> knocking will very obviously be painful. Get C's artist friends to >>>> design something pretty. Encode a clue in the mosaic image to the >>>> location of a disguised doorbell. >>>> >>>> Rig a tilt table under the porch tiles and (time delayed for those in >>>> the know) rock the floor until they step off, fall on their ass or >>>> press the hidden doorbell. >>>> >>>> George >>> >>> Yeah, lacerate the hands and break the legs of those nasty >>> cookie-peddling Girl Scouts. >> >>They can take it. Then they can sue. > >In most places in the US, someone who is on your property without >invitation and without otherwise being permitted by law (police, fire, >mail carriers, delivery people) or prior agreement (condo personnel, >lawn care, etc.) has no standing to sue for injuries received on your >property.That simply not true, at least in practice. "Attractive nuisance" is a broad class that certainly does give one standing. Hell, people breaking into stores have sued because they were injured falling through ceiling tiles. ...and then there are the suits against land owners for traps.> >The vast majority of "I slipped on your sidewalk" type lawsuits are >*illegal* nuisance suits that *should* result in judicial fines for >the person who sues and for their lawyer (if any) who should have >known better than to file the suit in the first place.Oh, good grief. They are *NOT* in any way illegal. You may wish they were but you lose.>Unfortunately you need a judge willing to sanction the nuisance (and >most are not). The majority of nuisance suits are dismissed without >prejudice, which means that the people who file them have no record >and so are free to do it again.You just contradicted what you said above.
Reply by ●February 27, 20152015-02-27
On Thu, 26 Feb 2015 23:25:06 -0600, Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> wrote:>On Thu, 26 Feb 2015 12:07:32 -0700, Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> wrote: > >>How about "Go Away!" in multicolored letters? Too subtle? > > >I have a doormat that says that. Although it's not really >multi-colored. If it's not this one, it's darn close: > >https://11main.com/kitchenkapers/kitchen-kapers-go-away-mat/p/3044526?ref=DF4rcI_udU6GfakKSQwtHg&kpid=3044526&cid=cse_gg_home-%26-outdoor__%5Bpla%5D-%28ho%29_54280971275&utm_source=gg&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=_&utm_content=11_main&utm_campaign=[pla]-(ho)&ref=DF4rcI_udU6GfakKSQwtHg&kpid=3044526I want the one that says "We do *NOT* call 911".
