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OT: Norway (ping David B)

Started by Don Y June 12, 2015
On 6/13/2015 4:18 AM, tim..... wrote:
> > "Don Y" <this@is.not.me.com> wrote in message > news:mle7fu$8ie$1@speranza.aioe.org... >> On 6/12/2015 1:08 AM, David Brown wrote: >>> On 12/06/15 08:23, Don Y wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I watched _Troll Hunter_ last evening (hint: don't enable English >>>> audio... just English subtitles!). Obviously, a "found footage" >>>> film. But, how much of it was intended to be tongue-in-cheek >>>> vs. addressing a (Norwegian/Scandinavian) cultural issue -- "trolls"? >>>> Sunlight? "The blood of a Christian"? etc. >>> >>> It is a fantastic film - very well made, and very entertaining. >> >> IMO, there were too many places where it's "believability" was needlessly >> compromised (e.g., filming the "payoff" to the polish bear delivery guys) > > was it even more unbelievable, or did you mean beer?
The typo in my above sentence is the 'p' in "Polish", not the 'a' in "bear". The story's premise is that: - trolls really *do* exist (not just fairy tales) - a secret govt organization protects the populace from them - goal of this organization is to *hide* the existence of trolls (let folks think they are things of myth and legend) To that end, any time a troll attacks (people/tourists, livestock, etc.) the gummit brings in a bear (in this care from the Polish bear delivery guys -- and the "payoff" for this delivery) and uses the (now dead!) bear's presence to explain the carnage. Including adding fake bear tracks (incompetently!) in the surrounding soil. A "US" parallel would be staging a "downed" weather balloon at the Roswell site to "explain" the alleged UFO siting... (having purchased that balloon from a Polish balloon delivery service! :> )
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> On 6/13/2015 4:18 AM, tim..... wrote: >> >> "Don Y" <this@is.not.me.com> wrote in message >> news:mle7fu$8ie$1@speranza.aioe.org... >>> On 6/12/2015 1:08 AM, David Brown wrote: >>>> On 12/06/15 08:23, Don Y wrote: >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> I watched _Troll Hunter_ last evening (hint: don't enable English >>>>> audio... just English subtitles!). Obviously, a "found footage" >>>>> film. But, how much of it was intended to be tongue-in-cheek >>>>> vs. addressing a (Norwegian/Scandinavian) cultural issue -- "trolls"? >>>>> Sunlight? "The blood of a Christian"? etc. >>>> >>>> It is a fantastic film - very well made, and very entertaining. >>> >>> IMO, there were too many places where it's "believability" was >>> needlessly >>> compromised (e.g., filming the "payoff" to the polish bear delivery >>> guys) >> >> was it even more unbelievable, or did you mean beer? > > The typo in my above sentence is the 'p' in "Polish",
I never thought otherwise but I couldn't understand the significance of a bear (unlike beer) being Polish. Are they different from other bears? tim
On 6/14/2015 9:31 AM, tim..... wrote:
>>>> IMO, there were too many places where it's "believability" was needlessly >>>> compromised (e.g., filming the "payoff" to the polish bear delivery guys) >>> >>> was it even more unbelievable, or did you mean beer? >> >> The typo in my above sentence is the 'p' in "Polish", > > I never thought otherwise > > but I couldn't understand the significance of a bear (unlike beer) being Polish. > > Are they different from other bears?
Actually, they claim it was a *Russian* bear! :> (Polish bear-delivery-guys)
On 14.6.2015 &#1075;. 20:00, Don Y wrote:
> On 6/14/2015 9:31 AM, tim..... wrote: >>>>> IMO, there were too many places where it's "believability" was >>>>> needlessly >>>>> compromised (e.g., filming the "payoff" to the polish bear delivery >>>>> guys) >>>> >>>> was it even more unbelievable, or did you mean beer? >>> >>> The typo in my above sentence is the 'p' in "Polish", >> >> I never thought otherwise >> >> but I couldn't understand the significance of a bear (unlike beer) >> being Polish. >> >> Are they different from other bears? > > Actually, they claim it was a *Russian* bear! :> > > (Polish bear-delivery-guys) >
If you have not watched W1A go for it, it is hilarious - and I generally cannot watch comedies. After it I discovered and watched also "twenty twelve", to which W1A is a sequel, also as good. I don't think entertainment can be of much higher quality that that... Dimiter
On 14/06/15 18:31, tim..... wrote:
> > "Don Y" <this@is.not.me.com> wrote in message > news:mli1gt$9d$1@speranza.aioe.org... >> On 6/13/2015 4:18 AM, tim..... wrote: >>> >>> "Don Y" <this@is.not.me.com> wrote in message >>> news:mle7fu$8ie$1@speranza.aioe.org... >>>> On 6/12/2015 1:08 AM, David Brown wrote: >>>>> On 12/06/15 08:23, Don Y wrote: >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> I watched _Troll Hunter_ last evening (hint: don't enable English >>>>>> audio... just English subtitles!). Obviously, a "found footage" >>>>>> film. But, how much of it was intended to be tongue-in-cheek >>>>>> vs. addressing a (Norwegian/Scandinavian) cultural issue -- "trolls"? >>>>>> Sunlight? "The blood of a Christian"? etc. >>>>> >>>>> It is a fantastic film - very well made, and very entertaining. >>>> >>>> IMO, there were too many places where it's "believability" was >>>> needlessly >>>> compromised (e.g., filming the "payoff" to the polish bear delivery >>>> guys) >>> >>> was it even more unbelievable, or did you mean beer? >> >> The typo in my above sentence is the 'p' in "Polish", > > I never thought otherwise > > but I couldn't understand the significance of a bear (unlike beer) being > Polish. > > Are they different from other bears? >
You are parsing the sentence incorrectly (not surprisingly - this whole thread is incomprehensible if you haven't seen the film). It was a Polish group that delivered bears, rather than a group that delivered Polish bears. It was a joke on how Polish workers are stereotyped here - enthusiastic, ready to help, happy to take on impossible tasks with a good will, delivering on time - and yet getting a small but crucial detail totally wrong. (They delivered the wrong kind of bear.)
Hi Dimiter,

[Expecting 105+F for much of this week...]

On 6/14/2015 12:12 PM, Dimiter_Popoff wrote:

> If you have not watched W1A go for it, it is hilarious - and I generally > cannot watch comedies. After it I discovered and watched also "twenty > twelve", to which W1A is a sequel, also as good. I don't think > entertainment can be of much higher quality that that...
[Note there is also a film called "2012"] I recall seeing just a couple of episodes. Here, we only get "britcoms" on our public television station(s). And, what they choose to carry seems to vary with the time of day, etc. I found _Coupling_ to be the most enjoyable of those. The first season of _Shameless_ was fun -- but never saw anything beyond that (and the "US" version of it is undoubtedly not worth watching!)
Hi Don,

On 15.6.2015 &#1075;. 00:33, Don Y wrote:
> Hi Dimiter, > > [Expecting 105+F for much of this week...] > > On 6/14/2015 12:12 PM, Dimiter_Popoff wrote: > >> If you have not watched W1A go for it, it is hilarious - and I generally >> cannot watch comedies. After it I discovered and watched also "twenty >> twelve", to which W1A is a sequel, also as good. I don't think >> entertainment can be of much higher quality that that... > > [Note there is also a film called "2012"] > > I recall seeing just a couple of episodes. Here, we only get "britcoms" > on our public television station(s). And, what they choose to carry > seems to vary with the time of day, etc. > > I found _Coupling_ to be the most enjoyable of those. The first season > of _Shameless_ was fun -- but never saw anything beyond that (and the "US" > version of it is undoubtedly not worth watching!)
We have summer here last few days, too (above 25C, tomorrow they say it will be above 30C, great weather basically). Last year we had virtually none so perhaps we deserve some now :-). I could not watch "Coupling", it was at the high end of the comedies I cannot watch but still unwatchable to me. I guess I am pretty hard to please... :-). W1A (and twenty twelve, http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1861225/?ref_=nv_sr_2 ) is the exception, I am sure you can download it one way or the other :-). If you do please let me know how it felt, I did like it a lot (laughing rarely but this is how good humour works I guess). Dimiter
Hi Dimiter,

On 6/14/2015 2:49 PM, Dimiter_Popoff wrote:

>> [Expecting 105+F for much of this week...] >> >> On 6/14/2015 12:12 PM, Dimiter_Popoff wrote: >> >>> If you have not watched W1A go for it, it is hilarious - and I generally >>> cannot watch comedies. After it I discovered and watched also "twenty >>> twelve", to which W1A is a sequel, also as good. I don't think >>> entertainment can be of much higher quality that that... >> >> [Note there is also a film called "2012"] >> >> I recall seeing just a couple of episodes. Here, we only get "britcoms" >> on our public television station(s). And, what they choose to carry >> seems to vary with the time of day, etc. >> >> I found _Coupling_ to be the most enjoyable of those. The first season >> of _Shameless_ was fun -- but never saw anything beyond that (and the "US" >> version of it is undoubtedly not worth watching!) > > We have summer here last few days, too (above 25C, tomorrow they say > it will be above 30C, great weather basically). Last year we had > virtually none so perhaps we deserve some now :-).
We'll spend a few days ~43C. Hopefully this isn't the start of a prolonged *pattern*! :-/ Significantly impacts the irrigation needs of the citrus trees -- looks like this next "crop" will be considerably larger than last year's!
> I could not watch "Coupling", it was at the high end of the comedies > I cannot watch but still unwatchable to me. I guess I am pretty > hard to please... :-).
We enjoy the "silliness" of it all. The characters seemed to be well formed sterotypes... I'm not keen on sitting in front of something that wants to *preach* to me or have me thinking "deep thoughts" (I've got *work* for that! :> )
> W1A (and twenty twelve, > http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1861225/?ref_=nv_sr_2 ) is the > exception, I am sure you can download it one way or the other :-).
I'll look around. As I said, most of the britcoms aren't seen, here. Those that are tend to be very old/"stale". Even _Coupling_ is gone, _Dr Who_, etc.
> If you do please let me know how it felt, I did like it a lot > (laughing rarely but this is how good humour works I guess).
I can't offer any other recommendations -- we watch very little "broadcast TV" (no time for it). Instead, we try to spend our "viewing time" with movies, cartoons, etc. -- things that we are reasonably sure will be worth the time invested! I've been hoping to find a comprehensive _Road Runner_ collection... sheer delight! (as were many of the original _Pinky & The Brain_ episodes -- before they got their own show! :< ) [Even then, I tend to "watch" with just one eye -- typically using the TV as "background noise" while I work on something else] Time to make some ice cream!
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