Re: CodeWright Error

responding to
http://www.electrondepot.com/embedded/codewright-error-124860-.htm , Nick
wrote:
> david.brown  wrote:
>
> 
> >  
> > Hi. I have searched over the internet about Codewright 5.1 and i
> found 
> > on this 
> > forum some old topics. I need to buy Codewright 5.1 and i see this
> is 
> > not valid anymore because is an 
> > very old. 
> > Can anyone help me PLEASE with a demo evaluation copy ?! 
> > Thank you so much 
> > Nick 
> >  
> >  
> 
> I have to ask - /why/ are you desperate to get hold of an outdated 
> version of an outdated editor?  There was a time when CodeWrite was a 
> top-range programmer's editor, and worth paying for - but these days 
> there is a wide range of free editors, many with far more features than 
> CodeWrite ever had (and others that are lighter and faster - not 
> everyone wants a big and powerful editor).  I can understand that 
> someone who has been using CodeWrite for years would want to keep using 
> it, but I cannot see why anyone would want it now. 
> 
> I have a manual for CodeWrite 5 on my shelf, from 1997.  It sits beside 
> some LANtastic for DOS guides, right next to an 8" floppy disk. 
> 
> 


-- 


Hi all
Thank you so much for your fast answer.
I need this OLD version (v5.1) because i need to reprogram some OLD building
management panels and i have support and manuals only for this version of
codewright.
As i am not an experimented developer i will have to follow instruction from
this manual to with this version.
If i will get another compiler, i will be probably COMPLETELY LOST. I am
anyway scared about this Codewright 5.1   :)
I was searched few days (one, tow hours each day) to find this version but it
is completely dispaerd. I tried as well on eBay and Amazon.
I found anyway, Codewright v7.5 but i understand this have some bit difference.
The problem is i have no space for mistakes because this system that i have to
reprogram, is functional, in a bulding and if i make something wrong, system
will not work any more.
Beside of the, programming of this must be made with Microsoft Macro Assembler
MASM v6.1, then compiled with Codewrite and finale, loaded in the master panel
via dedicated Winsweep serial communication software.

Anyway, if is not a big deal for you, please help me with manual of this 5.1
version, because, i did;t found manual over internet.
Anyway, i am an very ambitios guy and i will not stop searching until i will
not find a copy :)

Thank you so much for all time spent with my problem

Regards
Nick 

On 10/1/2015 9:37 PM, Nick wrote:
> responding to
> http://www.electrondepot.com/embedded/codewright-error-124860-.htm , Nick
> wrote:
>> david.brown  wrote:
>>
>>
>> > > Hi. I have searched over the internet about Codewright 5.1 and i
>> found > on this > forum some old topics. I need to buy Codewright 5.1
>> and i see this
>> is > not valid anymore because is an > very old. > Can anyone help me
>> PLEASE with a demo evaluation copy ?! > Thank you so much > Nick > >
>> I have to ask - /why/ are you desperate to get hold of an outdated
>> version of an outdated editor?  There was a time when CodeWrite was a
>> top-range programmer's editor, and worth paying for - but these days
>> there is a wide range of free editors, many with far more features
>> than CodeWrite ever had (and others that are lighter and faster - not
>> everyone wants a big and powerful editor).  I can understand that
>> someone who has been using CodeWrite for years would want to keep
>> using it, but I cannot see why anyone would want it now.
>> I have a manual for CodeWrite 5 on my shelf, from 1997.  It sits
>> beside some LANtastic for DOS guides, right next to an 8" floppy disk.
>>
>
>
> Hi all
> Thank you so much for your fast answer.
> I need this OLD version (v5.1) because i need to reprogram some OLD building
> management panels and i have support and manuals only for this version of
> codewright.
> As i am not an experimented developer i will have to follow instruction from
> this manual to with this version.
> If i will get another compiler, i will be probably COMPLETELY LOST. I am
> anyway scared about this Codewright 5.1
> I was searched few days (one, tow hours each day) to find this version but it
> is completely dispaerd. I tried as well on eBay and Amazon.
> I found anyway, Codewright v7.5 but i understand this have some bit difference.
> The problem is i have no space for mistakes because this system that i have to
> reprogram, is functional, in a bulding and if i make something wrong, system
> will not work any more.
> Beside of the, programming of this must be made with Microsoft Macro Assembler
> MASM v6.1, then compiled with Codewrite and finale, loaded in the master panel
> via dedicated Winsweep serial communication software.
>
> Anyway, if is not a big deal for you, please help me with manual of this 5.1
> version, because, i did;t found manual over internet.
> Anyway, i am an very ambitios guy and i will not stop searching until i will
> not find a copy
>
> Thank you so much for all time spent with my problem

When you reply, but sure you don't leave the "-- " on the line before 
your new writing.  That flags it as a signature and makes it hard to read.

If your development method is so constrained that you can't use a 
different editor, you may be in trouble.  If you are not in a big hurry 
I will check my office when I get back next week and see if I have an 
old 5.1 CD around.  I know I had a couple of versions and that may be 
one of them.

I'm a little uncomfortable with the legality of this though.  They are 
still selling Codewright, I think mainly to the mainframe code 
development market where it was a very popular tool along with PVCS and 
some other packages.  The price is up there, over $300 I think.  But 
shoot me an email Wednesday and I'll try to remember to dig it up.

-- 

Rick

> Hi all
> Thank you so much for your fast answer.
> I need this OLD version (v5.1) because i need to reprogram some OLD building
> management panels and i have support and manuals only for this version of
> codewright.
> As i am not an experimented developer i will have to follow instruction from
> this manual to with this version.
> If i will get another compiler, i will be probably COMPLETELY LOST. I am
> anyway scared about this Codewright 5.1
> I was searched few days (one, tow hours each day) to find this version but it
> is completely dispaerd. I tried as well on eBay and Amazon.
> I found anyway, Codewright v7.5 but i understand this have some bit difference.
> The problem is i have no space for mistakes because this system that i have to
> reprogram, is functional, in a bulding and if i make something wrong, system
> will not work any more.
> Beside of the, programming of this must be made with Microsoft Macro Assembler
> MASM v6.1, then compiled with Codewrite and finale, loaded in the master panel
> via dedicated Winsweep serial communication software.
>
> Anyway, if is not a big deal for you, please help me with manual of this 5.1
> version, because, i did;t found manual over internet.
> Anyway, i am an very ambitios guy and i will not stop searching until i will
> not find a copy
>
> Thank you so much for all time spent with my problem
>
> Regards
> Nick

Hello Nick.

Note that Codewright is not a compiler, it is only an editor.

When I used codewright, it was configured to run make externally.
When we changed IDE, there was no need to change the code at all.

Does the current build process use a makefile?
If so you can just run the build process from the command line.

Andy

On 02/10/15 03:37, Nick wrote:
> 
> 

I can't figure out what newsreader you are using or why you are using it
so badly, but /please/ fix things so that you actually reply to messages
in the same thread, rather than starting new threads, and make sure you
write your comments as text and not as a Usenet signature.  It's rare
that I see a poster and think that even Google Groups does not mess up
posts /that/ badly!

> 
> Hi all
> Thank you so much for your fast answer.
> I need this OLD version (v5.1) because i need to reprogram some OLD
> building
> management panels and i have support and manuals only for this version of
> codewright.
> As i am not an experimented developer i will have to follow instruction
> from
> this manual to with this version.

I would strongly recommend that you don't touch this system.  Hire
someone who knows how these things work.  If you are so inexperienced
that you mix up editors and compilers (while writing in assembly), and
can't adapt instructions referring to one editor to work with a
different editor, then you are /way/ out of your depth.

(I don't mean this as a criticism or an insult - people have different
experience, education, abilities and knowledge.  I have no idea what
your background is here - but it is clear that you don't have the
knowledge and abilities to handle the task set.  Accept that, and find
someone who can do the job.)

> If i will get another compiler, i will be probably COMPLETELY LOST. I am
> anyway scared about this Codewright 5.1   :)
> I was searched few days (one, tow hours each day) to find this version
> but it
> is completely dispaerd. I tried as well on eBay and Amazon.
> I found anyway, Codewright v7.5 but i understand this have some bit
> difference.
> The problem is i have no space for mistakes because this system that i
> have to
> reprogram, is functional, in a bulding and if i make something wrong,
> system
> will not work any more.

Again, for the sake of everyone in the building, don't try any more.
Get someone else to do the job.

> Beside of the, programming of this must be made with Microsoft Macro
> Assembler
> MASM v6.1, then compiled with Codewrite and finale, loaded in the master
> panel
> via dedicated Winsweep serial communication software.

Working in assembler is not for amateurs - at least, not for something
that matters.  And MASM is old and outdated software, for use in DOS
systems.  You need someone who is experienced with assembly programming
in DOS.


> 
> Anyway, if is not a big deal for you, please help me with manual of this
> 5.1
> version, because, i did;t found manual over internet.

The manual is in dead tree format - it's not a file that can be
downloaded.  No, I will not post it to you.  Even if it were a pdf, I
would not send it to you for two reasons.  One is that it is a
commercial product, and I would not violate the copyright like that (I
did once send someone a copy of some very old development software -
after first getting permission from the copyright owners).  Secondly, I
think that encouraging you here is a bad idea.  Unless I am
misunderstanding you entirely, I think anything you do here will cause a
great deal more harm than good.  (If I /am/ misunderstanding you, please
explain why.)

> Anyway, i am an very ambitios guy and i will not stop searching until i
> will
> not find a copy :)
> 
> Thank you so much for all time spent with my problem

I hope I have helped by pointing out what I think is the /real/ problem
here - that you are unqualified to handle this task - rather than
helping you with your imagined problem of getting hold of the ancient
editor.

> 
> Regards
> Nick

rickman wrote:

> If you are not in a big hurry 
> I will check my office when I get back next week and see if I have an 
> old 5.1 CD around.  I know I had a couple of versions and that may be 
> one of them.
> 
> I'm a little uncomfortable with the legality of this though.  They are 
> still selling Codewright.

As long as you are not using it any more, I believe that it is perfectly 
legal for you to transfer ownership of the software / software license. 
(The vendor may *say* you can't do that, but I don't think they have the 
right to prevent it, any more than a book publisher has the right to 
prevent you from giving away a book.) Of course, you should make sure 
you don't retain any copies of the software you have transferred. 
(Obviously, I am not a lawyer, so this is not legal advice.)

On Sat, 3 Oct 2015 13:05:04 -0700, Philip Lantz <prl@canterey.us>
wrote:

>rickman wrote:
>
>> If you are not in a big hurry 
>> I will check my office when I get back next week and see if I have an 
>> old 5.1 CD around.  I know I had a couple of versions and that may be 
>> one of them.
>> 
>> I'm a little uncomfortable with the legality of this though.  They are 
>> still selling Codewright.
>
>As long as you are not using it any more, I believe that it is perfectly   
>legal for you to transfer ownership of the software / software license. 

You are correct.  So long as the original owner does not retain an
illegal copy, it is perfectly legal to transfer software to a new
owner.

George

On 04/10/15 05:50, George Neuner wrote:
> On Sat, 3 Oct 2015 13:05:04 -0700, Philip Lantz <prl@canterey.us>
> wrote:
>
>> rickman wrote:
>>
>>> If you are not in a big hurry
>>> I will check my office when I get back next week and see if I have an
>>> old 5.1 CD around.  I know I had a couple of versions and that may be
>>> one of them.
>>>
>>> I'm a little uncomfortable with the legality of this though.  They are
>>> still selling Codewright.
>>
>> As long as you are not using it any more, I believe that it is perfectly
>> legal for you to transfer ownership of the software / software license.
>
> You are correct.  So long as the original owner does not retain an
> illegal copy, it is perfectly legal to transfer software to a new
> owner.
>

Be careful about generalisations like that - it may not apply in 
different countries, or across national boundaries (and the OP has said 
nothing about which county he is in - guessing by his writing, English 
is not his native language).

You don't normally "own" the software - you merely have a license to use 
it, and there can be many restrictions in that license that are legally 
enforceable in at least some countries.