On 02.10.2016 г. 23:44, David Brown wrote:> On 02/10/16 07:34, Dimiter_Popoff wrote: >> On 01.10.2016 г. 20:39, Don Y wrote: >>> Hi Dimiter, >>> >>> On 9/30/2016 3:14 AM, Dimiter_Popoff wrote: >>>> http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/09/wsj-qualcomm-could-spend-over-30-billion-to-acquire-nxp-semiconductor/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Are we all supposed to finally shut everything down, use tablets and >>>> stay still while spoon fed - if entitled to the latter, that is. >>> >>> <frown> I suggest you consider preparing for the possibility of doing >>> an end-of-life buy on the PPC's! >>> >>> [A downside of tying your implementation too tightly to that family] >> >> Hi Don, >> while I could do that with the 5200b the "family" thing is no help >> whatsoever. I know of no similar part being sourced by more than one >> maker so when they kill it that is it. It is still different, I can >> still buy parts Motorola has released 25 years ago - and this will >> come to an abrupt end should qualcomm buy nxp/freescale. >> > > ST have some PPC microcontrollers that are (AFAIK) identical to ones > from Freescale. There may be others - Atmel make copies of some old > Freescale devices (albeit at extreme prices). > > <http://www.st.com/content/st_com/en/products/automotive-microcontrollers/spc5-32-bit-automotive-mcus.html?querycriteria=productId=SC963> >Hi David, these are better than nothing of course but of no use to me, they are just the smallest MCU-s and what I use are much larger SOCs. Basically I have no significant preferences to that sort of small thing - its processor does not matter as long as it can do what I need. I use Coldfire for such purposes at the moment but changing would be no serious issue, the code for such a small thingie just cannot be large enough to cause migration problems. Dimiter ------------------------------------------------------ Dimiter Popoff, TGI http://www.tgi-sci.com ------------------------------------------------------ http://www.flickr.com/photos/didi_tgi/
What a nightmare...
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Reply by ●October 3, 20162016-10-03
Reply by ●October 3, 20162016-10-03
On 03.10.2016 г. 01:04, George Neuner wrote:> On Sun, 02 Oct 2016 00:55:25 -0700, Don Y > <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote: > >> There's never a "guarantee of supply", regardless of the component >> involved! > > True ... but certain companies try harder. If you really need parts > for a Hollerith Type 1 Tabulator [circa ~1905], you can *still* get > them from IBM. > > For an obscenely outrageous price, of course. > <grin> > > George >True, and on the practical side of it - talking 20 or 30 years - there are companies which try hard enough. ADI being one of them for example, Motorola-Freescale-NXP have also been pretty good at supplying *successful* products over the years (I think the hc711e9 is still available - at least was a few years back when I checked). Dimiter
Reply by ●October 3, 20162016-10-03
On 02.10.2016 г. 23:44, David Brown wrote:> .... > >> Then I have plans for the t1042 (t1040) - how do you replace that? >> There just are no processors of that complexity & power on the market > > I believe there are similar devices with many cores and lots of Ethernet > ports from other manufacturers, but often with MIPS cores - and often > not available to people buying in small quantities.My point exactly, why would I care what is on the market if it is only for politburo members. There are no parts on the market which could replace the t104x and the rest of the QorIQ line which are documented.> > However, while I think Qualcom buying NXP/Freescale would be a terrible > idea, I can't imagine that it will lead to the immediate destruction of > the key product lines of Freescale. It would not make economic sense - > why would Qualcom buy NXP/Freescale if it did not want the existing > products and customers? And the big Freescale customers are going to > disappear as fast as they are able if Qualcom stops selling these PPC > devices - the longevity of the parts is one of the main reasons those > customers bought them in the first place.We can only hope this to be true. However, the possibility that they buy Freescale *exactly* in order to shut them down is by no means remote. The "why" on that can be some politburo thing which we may know of years later - if ever. Why did Intel buy Chips and tech and kill their b69030 part for example (the example is of much much smaller magnitude, just something which did hit me directly back then). I'll be praying you turn out to be right on this one of course. ------------------------------------------------------ Dimiter Popoff, TGI http://www.tgi-sci.com ------------------------------------------------------ http://www.flickr.com/photos/didi_tgi/
Reply by ●October 3, 20162016-10-03
Dimiter_Popoff wrote:> On 02.10.2016 �. 23:44, David Brown wrote: >> >> However, while I think Qualcom buying NXP/Freescale would be a terrible >> idea, I can't imagine that it will lead to the immediate destruction of >> the key product lines of Freescale. It would not make economic sense - >> why would Qualcom buy NXP/Freescale if it did not want the existing >> products and customers? And the big Freescale customers are going to >> disappear as fast as they are able if Qualcom stops selling these PPC >> devices - the longevity of the parts is one of the main reasons those >> customers bought them in the first place. > > We can only hope this to be true. However, the possibility that they > buy Freescale *exactly* in order to shut them down is by no means > remote. The "why" on that can be some politburo thing which we > may know of years later - if ever. Why did Intel buy Chips and tech > and kill their b69030 part for example (the example is of much much > smaller magnitude, just something which did hit me directly back then). > I'll be praying you turn out to be right on this one of course. >If you buy the initial article, the core idea of the acquisition is NXP's NFC line so they can keep enabling you to swipe your cell phone instead of a credit card. That's apparantly a convenience, for anyone who couldn't tell because of how inconvenient it is. If that's the case, then it's less about picking them up to kill the PPC stuff, and more just picking them up caring about it one way or another; in which case they probably spin it off to "create shareholder value" and "focus on core strategies". -- Rob Gaddi, Highland Technology -- www.highlandtechnology.com Email address domain is currently out of order. See above to fix.
Reply by ●October 3, 20162016-10-03
On 2016-10-01 1:39 PM, Don Y wrote:> Hi Dimiter, > > On 9/30/2016 3:14 AM, Dimiter_Popoff wrote: >> http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/09/wsj-qualcomm-could-spend-over-30-billion-to-acquire-nxp-semiconductor/ >> >> >> Are we all supposed to finally shut everything down, use tablets and >> stay still while spoon fed - if entitled to the latter, that is. > > <frown> I suggest you consider preparing for the possibility of doing > an end-of-life buy on the PPC's! > > [A downside of tying your implementation too tightly to that family]Maybe, maybe not. Automotive engine controllers are PPC based and is a significant market with limited marketing effort. w..
Reply by ●October 6, 20162016-10-06
After they came up with ``the chip'', I'd say its an understatement to call swiping a cell phone a convenience. On 2016-10-03, Rob Gaddi <rgaddi@highlandtechnology.invalid> wrote:> Dimiter_Popoff wrote: > >> On 02.10.2016 г. 23:44, David Brown wrote: >>> >>> However, while I think Qualcom buying NXP/Freescale would be a terrible >>> idea, I can't imagine that it will lead to the immediate destruction of >>> the key product lines of Freescale. It would not make economic sense - >>> why would Qualcom buy NXP/Freescale if it did not want the existing >>> products and customers? And the big Freescale customers are going to >>> disappear as fast as they are able if Qualcom stops selling these PPC >>> devices - the longevity of the parts is one of the main reasons those >>> customers bought them in the first place. >> >> We can only hope this to be true. However, the possibility that they >> buy Freescale *exactly* in order to shut them down is by no means >> remote. The "why" on that can be some politburo thing which we >> may know of years later - if ever. Why did Intel buy Chips and tech >> and kill their b69030 part for example (the example is of much much >> smaller magnitude, just something which did hit me directly back then). >> I'll be praying you turn out to be right on this one of course. >> > > If you buy the initial article, the core idea of the acquisition is > NXP's NFC line so they can keep enabling you to swipe your cell phone > instead of a credit card. That's apparantly a convenience, for anyone > who couldn't tell because of how inconvenient it is. > > If that's the case, then it's less about picking them up to kill the > PPC stuff, and more just picking them up caring about it one way or > another; in which case they probably spin it off to "create shareholder > value" and "focus on core strategies". >
