On Fri, 4 Jan 2013 13:09:37 -0800, Mark Borgerson <mborgerson@comcast.net> wrote:>In article <8YudnYYv49jer3rNnZ2dnUVZ8qidnZ2d@lyse.net>, >david.brown@removethis.hesbynett.no says... >> Always go for 1920x1200 if you can - the extra vertical pixels are >> invaluable for most purposes other than watching films. I used to like >> a 1600x1200 monitor for a second (or third) monitor, simply because they >> don't take up as much desk space and you don't need so much horizontal >> pixel space for email or a web browser (though vertical space is >> essential). But the price of such monitors has gone through the roof in >> recent years. >I wonder if you could turn a 19" monitor on its side and get the OS >to swap the axes. Phones and tablets do that---why not computer >monitors. Radius or somebody used to make a monitor with a swiveling >stand so that the display better matched paper pages. Now most >software just gives you the option to see two pages side-by-side.In Windows, it's a function of the video card or device driver. And usually the utilities that come with the video card will provide that function. Usually you can right-click the desktop, and find those controls somewhere under there.
What is the Best PCB Layout software ? (Money no object)
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On 2013-01-04, Mark Borgerson <mborgerson@comcast.net> wrote:> I wonder if you could turn a 19" monitor on its side and get the OS > to swap the axes.Sure. All my Samsung LCD monitors will rotate into a "vertical" position. However, they don't inform the system about it electronically, so you have to configure the Xorg server to let it know which monitor(s) you've rotated.> Phones and tablets do that---why not computer > monitors. Radius or somebody used to make a monitor with a swiveling > stand so that the display better matched paper pages. Now most > software just gives you the option to see two pages side-by-side.I know Xorg lets you rotate monitors, and I assume Windows does too... -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwards Yow! I know how to do at SPECIAL EFFECTS!! gmail.com
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On Fri, 04 Jan 2013 13:50:51 -0800, Jon Kirwan <jonk@infinitefactors.org> wrote:>On Fri, 04 Jan 2013 16:50:20 -0500, Spehro Pefhany ><speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote: > >>30" monitors are quite affordable these days.. $999 Cdn. on sale for >>the Dell UltraSharp. Three would be nice.. 2560 x 1600 each. > >http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=224-9949&~ck=baynoteSearch&baynote_bnrank=6&baynote_irrank=0 > >Cripes. The Canadian dollar must be worth a lot. I'm seeing >USD1399 at the above link. And no sale price on it. > >JonOnly worth a bit more (but buys less generally) than a USD. Boxing day sale seems to be over now, but it goes on for 999 a couple times a year. It's CAD 1399 at the moment. Prices _were_: 23" - $179 24"- $249 27"-$699 30"-$999 Optimum pixels or in^2 per dollar is THREE of one of the first two, pivoted to vertical. Not counting what the video card(s) might do to your wallet.
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On Fri, 4 Jan 2013 22:14:44 +0000 (UTC), Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:>On 2013-01-04, Mark Borgerson <mborgerson@comcast.net> wrote: > >> I wonder if you could turn a 19" monitor on its side and get the OS >> to swap the axes. > >Sure. All my Samsung LCD monitors will rotate into a "vertical" >position.Unfortunately, they don't often offer that option with monitors larger than about 24".>However, they don't inform the system about it electronically, so you >have to configure the Xorg server to let it know which monitor(s) >you've rotated. > >> Phones and tablets do that---why not computer >> monitors. Radius or somebody used to make a monitor with a swiveling >> stand so that the display better matched paper pages. Now most >> software just gives you the option to see two pages side-by-side. > >I know Xorg lets you rotate monitors, and I assume Windows does too...
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On 2013-01-04, Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:> On Fri, 4 Jan 2013 22:14:44 +0000 (UTC), Grant Edwards ><invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote: > >>On 2013-01-04, Mark Borgerson <mborgerson@comcast.net> wrote: >> >>> I wonder if you could turn a 19" monitor on its side and get the OS >>> to swap the axes. >> >>Sure. All my Samsung LCD monitors will rotate into a "vertical" >>position. > > Unfortunately, they don't often offer that option with monitors larger > than about 24".Mine are 20.1" 1600x1200 or something like that. I can't remember the last time I saw somebody using a vertically-oriented monitor, so it may be hard to justify the extra manufacturing cost. I do remember when it wasn't uncommon for dedicated professional "word processing" systems like the IBM Displaywriter to have 4:3 CRT monitors mounted vertically. If I spent a lot of time typesetting portrait-mode letter/A4 size documents, I probably would flip one of my monitors... -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwards Yow! All this time I've at been VIEWING a RUSSIAN gmail.com MIDGET SODOMIZE a HOUSECAT!
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In article <kc6nfo$l77$1@dont-email.me>, hamilton@nothere.com says...> On 1/4/2013 4:43 AM, manu28101992@googlemail.com wrote: > > In my opinion, it's clearly EAGLES PCB Design software. > > You can try out the free trial first. > > The support and tutorials are awesome, too! > > > > > > http://www.cadsoftusa.com/ > > > The best is Altium. > > No limits, no funny libraries, not just a hobby tool.I used P-CAD for many years and dumped them when Altium bought it out and turned it into Protel. I have been very happy with Zuken, especially their customer support.
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On Fri, 04 Jan 2013 17:40:00 -0500, Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:>On Fri, 4 Jan 2013 22:14:44 +0000 (UTC), Grant Edwards ><invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote: > >>On 2013-01-04, Mark Borgerson <mborgerson@comcast.net> wrote: >> >>> I wonder if you could turn a 19" monitor on its side and get the OS >>> to swap the axes. >> >>Sure. All my Samsung LCD monitors will rotate into a "vertical" >>position. > >Unfortunately, they don't often offer that option with monitors larger >than about 24".Most (all?) monitors have provisions for mounting screws - usually four threaded holes in a rectangle on the back. Just like most (all?) TVs. You'd think that in c.a.e needing a sideways monitor stand would be more an invitation to haul out some tools than an actual problem... ;-)
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On 1/4/2013 3:43 AM, manu28101992@googlemail.com wrote:> In my opinion, it's clearly EAGLES PCB Design software. > You can try out the free trial first. > The support and tutorials are awesome, too! > > > http://www.cadsoftusa.com/At the risk of stating the obvious... If money is no object, pick up the phone and farm out the PCB design...or the schematic...or the project. Life is too short to waste on things where money is no object. Send all that excess money to me. I'll put it to good use.
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In article <kc92rb$3h3$2@dont-email.me>, ham789@netzero.net says...> > On 1/4/2013 3:43 AM, manu28101992@googlemail.com wrote: > > In my opinion, it's clearly EAGLES PCB Design software. > > You can try out the free trial first. > > The support and tutorials are awesome, too! > > > > > > http://www.cadsoftusa.com/ > > At the risk of stating the obvious... > If money is no object, pick up the phone and farm out the PCB > design...or the schematic...or the project. > Life is too short to waste on things where money is no object. > > Send all that excess money to me. I'll put it to good use.While money may not be a constraint, complete control of the board design process may be on the list. You lose a lot of that control when you farm out the board layout. Mark Borgerson
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On 2013-01-04, Mark Borgerson <mborgerson@comcast.net> wrote:> I wonder if you could turn a 19" monitor on its side and get the OS > to swap the axes. Phones and tablets do that---why not computer > monitors. Radius or somebody used to make a monitor with a swiveling > stand so that the display better matched paper pages. Now most > software just gives you the option to see two pages side-by-side.I'm not in front of a Windows machine right now, but ISTR you need to experiment with ctrl-alt-cursor key combinations. -- Andrew Smallshaw andrews@sdf.lonestar.org