Writing a log object (as in log file, say logging accessed addresses using a browser) and the question "do I put something _on_ the log or do I put it _in_ the log"is bugging me, obviously enough so I thought I'd ask. Some vague googling returned only about "log in"vs. "log on" which I did not even check if it was relevant. My memory seems to say "on", my inherent inclination is to say "in", which is how one would say in Bulgarian. So it is bugging me - please help on this life/death issue. Dimiter ====================================================== Dimiter Popoff, TGI http://www.tgi-sci.com ====================================================== http://www.flickr.com/photos/didi_tgi/
On log or in log?
Started by ●April 11, 2020
Reply by ●April 11, 20202020-04-11
On 2020-04-11 12:33, Dimiter_Popoff wrote:> Writing a log object (as in log file, say logging accessed addresses > using a browser) and the question "do I put something _on_ the log > or do I put it _in_ the log"is bugging me, obviously enough so I > thought I'd ask. Some vague googling returned only about "log in"vs. > "log on" which I did not even check if it was relevant. > > My memory seems to say "on", my inherent inclination is to say "in", > which is how one would say in Bulgarian. > So it is bugging me - please help on this life/death issue. > > Dimiter > > ====================================================== > Dimiter Popoff, TGI http://www.tgi-sci.com > ====================================================== > http://www.flickr.com/photos/didi_tgi/ >In. Cheers Phil Hobbs -- Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics Briarcliff Manor NY 10510 http://electrooptical.net http://hobbs-eo.com
Reply by ●April 11, 20202020-04-11
On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 12:33:44 PM UTC-4, Dimiter wrote:> Writing a log object (as in log file, say logging accessed addresses > using a browser) and the question "do I put something _on_ the log > or do I put it _in_ the log"is bugging me, obviously enough so I > thought I'd ask. Some vague googling returned only about "log in"vs. > "log on" which I did not even check if it was relevant. > > My memory seems to say "on", my inherent inclination is to say "in", > which is how one would say in Bulgarian. > So it is bugging me - please help on this life/death issue.Yes, life or death indeed. I don't understand the question. Did you post this message in the group, or on the group or to the group? I vote for writing "to" the log. Any of them are fine if you are asking an English question. I can't speak to what might be formally "correct". I recall an Iranian student asking me the difference between special and especial and especial and especially. We looked it up and they seemed to be interchangeable. I told him that conventional usage included special over especial and especially over specially. -- Rick C. - Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging - Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
Reply by ●April 11, 20202020-04-11
On 4/11/2020 19:45, Phil Hobbs wrote:> On 2020-04-11 12:33, Dimiter_Popoff wrote: >> Writing a log object (as in log file, say logging accessed addresses >> using a browser) and the question "do I put something _on_ the log >> or do I put it _in_ the log"is bugging me, obviously enough so I >> thought I'd ask. Some vague googling returned only about "log in"vs. >> "log on" which I did not even check if it was relevant. >> >> My memory seems to say "on", my inherent inclination is to say "in", >> which is how one would say in Bulgarian. >> So it is bugging me - please help on this life/death issue. >> >> Dimiter >> >> ====================================================== >> Dimiter Popoff, TGI http://www.tgi-sci.com >> ====================================================== >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/didi_tgi/ >> > > In. > > Cheers > > Phil Hobbs >Thanks. Preposition use can differ in very surprising ways between languages, well, this time it does not though :-). Dimiter
Reply by ●April 11, 20202020-04-11
Am 11.04.2020 um 18:50 schrieb Rick C:> I vote for writing "to" the log.I believe the excessively correct version would actually be: "into" the log. Writing "on" a log is if the log is actually a book, and it's closed, so your ink lands on its envelope. Writing "in" it is if the book is already laying open, and you just write something somwehere. But you're composing a message on the outside,and transferring that into the log file for keeping, thus: into.
Reply by ●April 11, 20202020-04-11
On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 12:33:44 PM UTC-4, Dimiter wrote:> Writing a log object (as in log file, say logging accessed addresses > using a browser) and the question "do I put something _on_ the log > or do I put it _in_ the log"is bugging me,Neither! "append to the log"
Reply by ●April 11, 20202020-04-11
On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 5:10:17 PM UTC-4, Dave Nadler wrote:> On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 12:33:44 PM UTC-4, Dimiter wrote: > > Writing a log object (as in log file, say logging accessed addresses > > using a browser) and the question "do I put something _on_ the log > > or do I put it _in_ the log"is bugging me, > > Neither! "append to the log"I also "log" data without a preposition. -- Rick C. + Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging + Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
Reply by ●April 11, 20202020-04-11
On 4/12/2020 0:10, Dave Nadler wrote:> On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 12:33:44 PM UTC-4, Dimiter wrote: >> Writing a log object (as in log file, say logging accessed addresses >> using a browser) and the question "do I put something _on_ the log >> or do I put it _in_ the log"is bugging me, > > Neither! "append to the log" >I see now I put my question in a misleading way. Obviously I know to "write to the log", append to the log etc., this was not the point. I should have asked "is something in the log or is it on the log". Say, like something is "on the menu". Phil understood me and his answer was what I was after though. Dimiter
Reply by ●April 11, 20202020-04-11
Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com> wrote:> I see now I put my question in a misleading way. Obviously I know > to "write to the log", append to the log etc., this was not the point. > > I should have asked "is something in the log or is it on the log". > Say, like something is "on the menu". > > Phil understood me and his answer was what I was after though.The etymology is a contraction of log-book, being a book with which you record (among other things) the speed of your vessel that you measured by throwing wooden logs over the side of the ship and seeing how fast they go out behind you. So you would be writing 'in' the log-book and hence writing in the log. However if it was a log-file rather than a log-book, it wouldn't be wrong to say you were writing to the log-file and hence writing to the log. (and similar for other kinds of objects that don't open and close, like a log-chart, log-board or log-sheet) Hence either of those feel fine to me, but writing 'on' the log doesn't. Theo
Reply by ●April 12, 20202020-04-12
On 04/11/2020 05:04 PM, Theo wrote:> Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com> wrote: >> I see now I put my question in a misleading way. Obviously I know >> to "write to the log", append to the log etc., this was not the point. >> >> I should have asked "is something in the log or is it on the log". >> Say, like something is "on the menu". >> >> Phil understood me and his answer was what I was after though. > > The etymology is a contraction of log-book, being a book with which you > record (among other things) the speed of your vessel that you measured by > throwing wooden logs over the side of the ship and seeing how fast they go > out behind you. > > So you would be writing 'in' the log-book and hence writing in the log. > > However if it was a log-file rather than a log-book, it wouldn't be wrong to > say you were writing to the log-file and hence writing to the log. > (and similar for other kinds of objects that don't open and close, like a > log-chart, log-board or log-sheet) > > Hence either of those feel fine to me, but writing 'on' the log doesn't. > > Theo >This thread is a chuckle as it proves once again that English is a strange language. In it "one parks a car in a driveway" while "driving a car on a parkway".
