Does anyone have any experience with the PIC10F202?

Hello from the Eighth Doctor
I just received my sample order of 3 devices of the PIC10F202 (DIP-8 
package), from Microchip today.

Has anyone had any prior experience with this particular device? Or perhaps the 
PIC12 family? According to Microchip the PIC10, is a member of the PIC12 family. 
I'm not sure what they mean by this. What I am curious is how the devices were 
programmed, and what software tools were used to write the code. Linux based 
preferably.
---
Gregg drwho8 atsign att dot net

"The Eighth Doctor" <drwho8__NOTME__@att.net> wrote in message 
news:yJx6e.559419$w62.328918@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> Hello from the Eighth Doctor
> I just received my sample order of 3 devices of the PIC10F202 (DIP-8
> package), from Microchip today.
>
> Has anyone had any prior experience with this particular device? Or 
> perhaps the
> PIC12 family? According to Microchip the PIC10, is a member of the PIC12 
> family.
> I'm not sure what they mean by this. What I am curious is how the devices 
> were
> programmed, and what software tools were used to write the code. Linux 
> based
> preferably.

I've got some samples but haven't tried them yet. They can be programmed in 
the PICkit 1, with an adapter, or with the ICD 2.

Leon 

Gregg:

We use the 10F20X here for our smallest products. We've been using them 
since November. We got the kits when they first came out, so I guess 
I've got some experience with it.

We're using CCSC, which is available on Linux. You can also write the 
code in assembly, and in fact you'll may have to write some parts in 
assembly. Nothing extravagant; the TRIS and OPTION registers are only 
accessible via the TRIS and OPTION commands in assembly. CCS recently 
included some statements to work with them, but the code wasn't broken 
so I didn't fix it.

You'll have to have an up-to-date version of CCSC. Note that they 
"fixed" some things when they added support for the 10F20X, so if you're 
upgrading from a previous version get ready for some serious pain.

It's a Windows shop here, and we use Quickwriter for the programming. 
Depending on the board, we have a $2 ICSP module that sits on the board 
or we use the $200 6-pin SOT-6 programmer before they get soldered on. 
It takes a while and the fuse settings don't seem to play nice together. 
You'll have to edit the configuration word in QW if you want the MCLR to 
stay off.

The development kit from microchip isn't supported in Linux. You may 
have to run an emulator or as they like to say on Slashdot, "Just write 
your own." I'd go for the emulator. ;)

The development kit they sent you won't work until you update the 
software. (At least, that was the case in November.) Go here and get the 
latest software:
http://www.microchip.com/stellent/idcplg?IdcService=SS_GET_PAGE&nodeId=1406&dDocName=en010053

Good luck and have fun. It's a good little chip, and we're selling 
thousands of units based on it. It's making a big positive impact on our 
bottom line.

The Eighth Doctor wrote:
> Hello from the Eighth Doctor
> I just received my sample order of 3 devices of the PIC10F202 (DIP-8 
> package), from Microchip today.
> 
> Has anyone had any prior experience with this particular device? Or perhaps the 
> PIC12 family? According to Microchip the PIC10, is a member of the PIC12 family. 
> I'm not sure what they mean by this. What I am curious is how the devices were 
> programmed, and what software tools were used to write the code. Linux based 
> preferably.
> ---
> Gregg drwho8 atsign att dot net
> 

In article <vTT7e.1027595$6l.697694@pd7tw2no>, 
"[myfirstname]"@habitresearch.[com] says...
>
>Gregg:
>
>We use the 10F20X here for our smallest products. We've been using them 
>since November. We got the kits when they first came out, so I guess 
>I've got some experience with it.
>
>We're using CCSC, which is available on Linux. You can also write the 
>code in assembly, and in fact you'll may have to write some parts in 
>assembly. Nothing extravagant; the TRIS and OPTION registers are only 
>accessible via the TRIS and OPTION commands in assembly. CCS recently 
>included some statements to work with them, but the code wasn't broken 
>so I didn't fix it.
>
>You'll have to have an up-to-date version of CCSC. Note that they 
>"fixed" some things when they added support for the 10F20X, so if you're 
>upgrading from a previous version get ready for some serious pain.
>
>It's a Windows shop here, and we use Quickwriter for the programming. 
>Depending on the board, we have a $2 ICSP module that sits on the board 
>or we use the $200 6-pin SOT-6 programmer before they get soldered on. 
>It takes a while and the fuse settings don't seem to play nice together. 
>You'll have to edit the configuration word in QW if you want the MCLR to 
>stay off.
>
>The development kit from microchip isn't supported in Linux. You may 
>have to run an emulator or as they like to say on Slashdot, "Just write 
>your own." I'd go for the emulator. ;)
>
>The development kit they sent you won't work until you update the 
>software. (At least, that was the case in November.) Go here and get the 
>latest software:
>http://www.microchip.com/stellent/idcplg?IdcService=SS_GET_PAGE&nodeId=
1406&dDocName=en010053
>
>Good luck and have fun. It's a good little chip, and we're selling 
>thousands of units based on it. It's making a big positive impact on our 
>bottom line.
>
>The Eighth Doctor wrote:
>> Hello from the Eighth Doctor
>> I just received my sample order of 3 devices of the PIC10F202 (DIP-8 
>> package), from Microchip today.
>> 
>> Has anyone had any prior experience with this particular device? Or perhaps the 
>> PIC12 family? According to Microchip the PIC10, is a member of the PIC12 
family. 
>> I'm not sure what they mean by this. What I am curious is how the devices were 
>> programmed, and what software tools were used to write the code. Linux based 
>> preferably.
>> ---
>> Gregg drwho8 atsign att dot net
>> 
Hello from the Eghth Doctor
Thank you for your kind advice. However, I have the regular parts here, not the 
programming kit. Still for what I ordered the sample parts for, and what I've planned 
for that, I should think your right.
--
Gregg drwho8 atsign att dot net
"This signature isn't really here."