I found a similar problem in an earlier thread, but not really a solution... I am trying to install the FTDI FT232BM VCP driver on a Windows 98 system. The system won't "pick up" the driver. It recognizes the USB device (unknown) when I plug it in. It then insists on automatically attaching its own USB driver. I can tell it to "update driver" and point it to the directory where the FTDI driver is located. However, it insists that it knows better (the best driver is already installed) and won't update. I've tried removing the "unknown device" and doing it over, no change... Any ideas? [FWIW, I am currently using the FTDI FT232BM without an EEPROM.] tnx, jmk
FTDI driver installation problems
Started by ●May 30, 2005
Reply by ●May 30, 20052005-05-30
James M. Knox wrote:> I found a similar problem in an earlier thread, but not really a > solution... > > I am trying to install the FTDI FT232BM VCP driver on a Windows 98 system. > The system won't "pick up" the driver. It recognizes the USB device > (unknown) when I plug it in. It then insists on automatically attaching > its own USB driver. I can tell it to "update driver" and point it to the > directory where the FTDI driver is located. However, it insists that it > knows better (the best driver is already installed) and won't update. > > I've tried removing the "unknown device" and doing it over, no change... > > Any ideas? [FWIW, I am currently using the FTDI FT232BM without an > EEPROM.]Why don't you send these question to Mr keith dingwall from FTDI ? He's really helpful and has accumulated quite a lot of knowledge ? Rene -- Ing.Buero R.Tschaggelar - http://www.ibrtses.com & commercial newsgroups - http://www.talkto.net
Reply by ●May 30, 20052005-05-30
On Sun, 29 May 2005 22:48:37 -0500, "James M. Knox" <jknox@trisoft.com> wrote:>I found a similar problem in an earlier thread, but not really a >solution... > >I am trying to install the FTDI FT232BM VCP driver on a Windows 98 system. >The system won't "pick up" the driver. It recognizes the USB device >(unknown) when I plug it in. It then insists on automatically attaching >its own USB driver. I can tell it to "update driver" and point it to the >directory where the FTDI driver is located. However, it insists that it >knows better (the best driver is already installed) and won't update. > >I've tried removing the "unknown device" and doing it over, no change... > >Any ideas? [FWIW, I am currently using the FTDI FT232BM without an >EEPROM.] > >tnx, jmkIt makes life a whole lot easier if you use the eeprom and prorogram a product ID (PID) into it (FTDI will allocate you one if you ask them). You just need to update the driver .INF files (described in th ehelp files of FTDI's MPROG eeprom-programming utility). That way it will always look for a driver for your specific PID and ignore any previously installed drivers.
Reply by ●May 30, 20052005-05-30
Mike Harrison <mike@whitewing.co.uk> wrote in news:7ukl91dad0530npakusulihted57av7nij@4ax.com:> It makes life a whole lot easier if you use the eeprom and prorogram a > product ID (PID) into it (FTDI will allocate you one if you ask > them). You just need to update the driver .INF files (described in th > ehelp files of FTDI's MPROG eeprom-programming utility). That way it > will always look for a driver for your specific PID and ignore any > previously installed drivers.That's the plan, and in fact I laid out the board with a spot for the EEPROM on it. But the documentation (and other comments I googled on this newsgroup) say that it should work without one. So the idea was to start with the least number of variables in the equation. <G> But I may have to install an EEPROM just to see if I can force the driver to load... jmk
Reply by ●May 30, 20052005-05-30
First, the support of USB under win98 is not perfect. Second, use DX2XX drivers instead of VCP they are far more stable. Stef Mientki James M. Knox wrote:> I found a similar problem in an earlier thread, but not really a > solution... > > I am trying to install the FTDI FT232BM VCP driver on a Windows 98 system. > The system won't "pick up" the driver. It recognizes the USB device > (unknown) when I plug it in. It then insists on automatically attaching > its own USB driver. I can tell it to "update driver" and point it to the > directory where the FTDI driver is located. However, it insists that it > knows better (the best driver is already installed) and won't update. > > I've tried removing the "unknown device" and doing it over, no change... > > Any ideas? [FWIW, I am currently using the FTDI FT232BM without an > EEPROM.] > > tnx, jmk
Reply by ●May 30, 20052005-05-30
Stef Mientki <S.Mientki-nospam@mailbox.kun.nl> wrote in news:99227$429b603b$83aef479$13935@news2.tudelft.nl:> First, the support of USB under win98 is not perfect. > Second, use DX2XX drivers instead of VCP they are far more stable.Long term, probably will. But for now the VCP driver allows us to continue to use the PC-based host program with no changes (just tell it to use a different serial port).
Reply by ●May 30, 20052005-05-30
"Stef Mientki" <S.Mientki-nospam@mailbox.kun.nl> wrote in message news:99227$429b603b$83aef479$13935@news2.tudelft.nl...> First, the support of USB under win98 is not perfect. > Second, use DX2XX drivers instead of VCP they are far more stable. > Stef MientkiThere is nothing wring with the stability of the VCP drivers. We use the chips and the VCP drivers in a commercial product for 3 years and we've never had any reported problems. One good thing to do is strip out any PnP enumerator stuff from the INF files. Makes Windoze behave more nicely when any data is present on the FTDI chip when Windoze starts. Meindert
Reply by ●May 31, 20052005-05-31
Meindert Sprang wrote:> "Stef Mientki" <S.Mientki-nospam@mailbox.kun.nl> wrote in message > news:99227$429b603b$83aef479$13935@news2.tudelft.nl... > >>First, the support of USB under win98 is not perfect. >>Second, use DX2XX drivers instead of VCP they are far more stable. >>Stef Mientki > > > There is nothing wring with the stability of the VCP drivers. We use the > chips and the VCP drivers in a commercial product for 3 years and we've > never had any reported problems. One good thing to do is strip out any PnP > enumerator stuff from the INF files. Makes Windoze behave more nicely when > any data is present on the FTDI chip when Windoze starts. > > Meindert > >At what baudrate are you using them ? (we use 115kB en 230kB) Stef
Reply by ●May 31, 20052005-05-31
"Stef Mientki" <S.Mientki-nospam@mailbox.kun.nl> wrote in message news:3f390$429ca3af$83aef479$25524@news1.tudelft.nl...> At what baudrate are you using them ? > (we use 115kB en 230kB)38400 and 57600 max. Meindert
Reply by ●June 1, 20052005-06-01
For test purposes, I have been using Procomm Plus. Straight terminal program, just to display the data being sent over the line from the device. If I let everything settle down between the host and the device, then set Procomm Plus to serial port 3 (the "VCP" port), then tell the device to start sending data - works fine. But if I then turn off the device (the FTDI chip is self powered, which means it goes off as well) and back on, not only does Procomm Plus appear to lock up, but Win98 comes up with an internal error that won't go away without a reboot. Haven't tried it under Win2K or XP yet. One thing I suspect is that the driver is not happy if the device starts sending data (or trying to) before all the enumeration is completed. I will try your suggestion of stripping out any extraneous stuff in the INF file. Also, as has been suggested, now adding the EEPROM may help.
