On 9 Dec 2005 21:47:13 -0800, the renowned "An Schwob in the USA" <schwobus@aol.com> wrote:>Sam, > >don't knwo where you are but Joerg is in the USA. As a consultant $249 >is a few hours worth of time, never ever is it possible to make this >kind of enviroment using such short >time. On top of it you save hours debugging the first project.Yes, $250 US is nothing. I think Keil is based on the GCC compiler, but you're also getting their installation script, their simulator, debugger, IDE, the board and the USB JTAG box. Impulse purchase territory. Best regards, Spehro Pefhany -- "it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com
LPC2101 development kit, which one?
Started by ●December 6, 2005
Reply by ●December 10, 20052005-12-10
Reply by ●December 10, 20052005-12-10
Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> writes:> On 9 Dec 2005 21:47:13 -0800, the renowned "An Schwob in the USA" > <schwobus@aol.com> wrote: > > >Sam, > > > >don't knwo where you are but Joerg is in the USA. As a consultant $249 > >is a few hours worth of time, never ever is it possible to make this > >kind of enviroment using such short > >time. On top of it you save hours debugging the first project. > > Yes, $250 US is nothing. I think Keil is based on the GCC compiler,I find that very hard to believe! They sell their own compiler, don't they? -- John Devereux
Reply by ●December 10, 20052005-12-10
On 10 Dec 2005 13:43:33 +0000, the renowned John Devereux <jdREMOVE@THISdevereux.me.uk> wrote:>Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> writes: > >> On 9 Dec 2005 21:47:13 -0800, the renowned "An Schwob in the USA" >> <schwobus@aol.com> wrote: >> >> >Sam, >> > >> >don't knwo where you are but Joerg is in the USA. As a consultant $249 >> >is a few hours worth of time, never ever is it possible to make this >> >kind of enviroment using such short >> >time. On top of it you save hours debugging the first project. >> >> Yes, $250 US is nothing. I think Keil is based on the GCC compiler, > >I find that very hard to believe! They sell their own compiler, don't >they?Okay, maybe their development environment supports their proprietary compiler and the open source compiler. There is definitely GNU stuff in there: "The HELLO program is a very simple program that prints "Hello World" to the serial port of the AT91M40800. When you can successfully build and run this program, you have used the entire toolset including: The uVision2 integrated development environment. The GNU compiler, linker and the �Vision2 simulator/debugger." Best regards, Spehro Pefhany -- "it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com
Reply by ●December 10, 20052005-12-10
Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> writes:> On 10 Dec 2005 13:43:33 +0000, the renowned John Devereux > <jdREMOVE@THISdevereux.me.uk> wrote: > > >Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> writes: > > > >> On 9 Dec 2005 21:47:13 -0800, the renowned "An Schwob in the USA" > >> <schwobus@aol.com> wrote: > >> > >> >Sam, > >> > > >> >don't knwo where you are but Joerg is in the USA. As a consultant $249 > >> >is a few hours worth of time, never ever is it possible to make this > >> >kind of enviroment using such short > >> >time. On top of it you save hours debugging the first project. > >> > >> Yes, $250 US is nothing. I think Keil is based on the GCC compiler, > > > >I find that very hard to believe! They sell their own compiler, don't > >they? > > Okay, maybe their development environment supports their proprietary > compiler and the open source compiler. There is definitely GNU stuff > in there:OK. I am surprised they do even this. Especially if their own compiler is limited to 16k. -- John Devereux
Reply by ●December 10, 20052005-12-10
In article <qqklp191u2e67ch67klpta8473e080753q@4ax.com>, Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> writes>On 9 Dec 2005 21:47:13 -0800, the renowned "An Schwob in the USA" ><schwobus@aol.com> wrote: > >>Sam, >> >>don't knwo where you are but Joerg is in the USA. As a consultant $249 >>is a few hours worth of time, never ever is it possible to make this >>kind of enviroment using such short >>time. On top of it you save hours debugging the first project. > >Yes, $250 US is nothing. I think Keil is based on the GCC compiler, >but you're also getting their installation script, their simulator, >debugger, IDE, the board and the USB JTAG box. Impulse purchase >territory.At one time Keil did an IDE (uVision) and simulator with an GCC compiler. Then they did their own ARM7 C compiler. Which was up to their usual standard. Now Keil is owned by ARM. -- \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ \/\/\/\/\ Chris Hills Staffs England /\/\/\/\/ /\/\/ chris@phaedsys.org www.phaedsys.org \/\/\ \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
Reply by ●December 10, 20052005-12-10
On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 23:40:56 +0000, the renowned Chris Hills <chris@phaedsys.org> wrote:>In article <qqklp191u2e67ch67klpta8473e080753q@4ax.com>, Spehro Pefhany ><speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> writes >>On 9 Dec 2005 21:47:13 -0800, the renowned "An Schwob in the USA" >><schwobus@aol.com> wrote: >> >>>Sam, >>> >>>don't knwo where you are but Joerg is in the USA. As a consultant $249 >>>is a few hours worth of time, never ever is it possible to make this >>>kind of enviroment using such short >>>time. On top of it you save hours debugging the first project. >> >>Yes, $250 US is nothing. I think Keil is based on the GCC compiler, >>but you're also getting their installation script, their simulator, >>debugger, IDE, the board and the USB JTAG box. Impulse purchase >>territory. > > >At one time Keil did an IDE (uVision) and simulator with an GCC >compiler. Then they did their own ARM7 C compiler. Which was up to their >usual standard.Ah, okay.>Now Keil is owned by ARM.So I heard. Now, what happens to Realview? And does it matter? Best regards, Spehro Pefhany -- "it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com
Reply by ●December 10, 20052005-12-10
In article <juump1h3cb96oa6d71t431d0j52oqvrnf0@4ax.com>, speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat says...> On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 23:40:56 +0000, the renowned Chris Hills > <chris@phaedsys.org> wrote: > > >In article <qqklp191u2e67ch67klpta8473e080753q@4ax.com>, Spehro Pefhany > ><speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> writes > >>On 9 Dec 2005 21:47:13 -0800, the renowned "An Schwob in the USA" > >><schwobus@aol.com> wrote: > >> > >>>Sam, > >>> > >>>don't knwo where you are but Joerg is in the USA. As a consultant $249 > >>>is a few hours worth of time, never ever is it possible to make this > >>>kind of enviroment using such short > >>>time. On top of it you save hours debugging the first project. > >> > >>Yes, $250 US is nothing. I think Keil is based on the GCC compiler, > >>but you're also getting their installation script, their simulator, > >>debugger, IDE, the board and the USB JTAG box. Impulse purchase > >>territory. > > > > > >At one time Keil did an IDE (uVision) and simulator with an GCC > >compiler. Then they did their own ARM7 C compiler. Which was up to their > >usual standard. > > Ah, okay. > > >Now Keil is owned by ARM. > > So I heard. Now, what happens to Realview? And does it matter? >If you want C++, you go to RealView, the Keil compiler doesn't support it. --Gene
Reply by ●December 12, 20052005-12-12
"Chris Hills" <chris@phaedsys.org> wrote in message news:bjkE77DIe2mDFAW8@phaedsys.demon.co.uk...> In article <qqklp191u2e67ch67klpta8473e080753q@4ax.com>, Spehro Pefhany > <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> writes >>On 9 Dec 2005 21:47:13 -0800, the renowned "An Schwob in the USA" >><schwobus@aol.com> wrote: >> >>>Sam, >>> >>>don't knwo where you are but Joerg is in the USA. As a consultant $249 >>>is a few hours worth of time, never ever is it possible to make this >>>kind of enviroment using such short >>>time. On top of it you save hours debugging the first project. >> >>Yes, $250 US is nothing. I think Keil is based on the GCC compiler, >>but you're also getting their installation script, their simulator, >>debugger, IDE, the board and the USB JTAG box. Impulse purchase >>territory. > > > At one time Keil did an IDE (uVision) and simulator with an GCC > compiler. Then they did their own ARM7 C compiler. Which was up to their > usual standard. > > Now Keil is owned by ARM. >They still give the option to install arm gcc as well for those of us that need more than 16k but can't afford the full version for our own home projects (or work for tight bosses). The keil ide and compiler hands down beats all others (Rowley by a nose) but unfortunately is windows only. Some recent work has been stipulated as all tools must be available/run natively on linux. So arm gcc and xilinx webpack not keil or altera. Alex
Reply by ●December 12, 20052005-12-12
"Joerg" <notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote in message news:Fmslf.32100$tV6.4515@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net...> Hello Folks, > > The Philips ARM series had been out of my price range but the LPC2101 > finally seems to be in reach, meaning under $2 in quantity. Now if one > wants to try it out which kit would work? I'd have no problem if it was > for another one of the ARM chips as they seem to be quite compatible. > > The only kit for the lower number parts I found at Digikey was the KS2106 > LPC210x Kickstart kit. It is listed to be for the LPC2104 through 2106. > Unfortunately there is no data sheet on it and the IAR site doesn't find > it. What I'd need for kicking the tires would be the IAR suite or > something similar, a small experimental board (which seems to be in that > kit) and a USB programmer (no word about that one). > > Does anyone use this KS2106 kit? Is it the complete deal to get started? > > Regards, Joerg > > http://www.analogconsultants.comCheapest dev kit so far I've seen is from futurlec US$24.90 for the processor module , US$22.90 for base board http://www.futurlec.com/ET-ARM_Stamp.shtml http://www.futurlec.com/ET-ARM_Stamp_Board.shtml The ks2106 is made by olimex for iar. Its okay. Keil software is a lot lot nicer and hasn't crashed on me yet. Alex
Reply by ●December 14, 20052005-12-14
Hello Alex,> > Cheapest dev kit so far I've seen is from futurlec > US$24.90 for the processor module , US$22.90 for base board > http://www.futurlec.com/ET-ARM_Stamp.shtml > http://www.futurlec.com/ET-ARM_Stamp_Board.shtml > > The ks2106 is made by olimex for iar. > Its okay. > Keil software is a lot lot nicer and hasn't crashed on me yet. >Thanks! That's the kind of stuff I was looking for. AFAIK there is a trial pack from Keil with a limited code size to try it out. Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com
