ARM development kits

Started by nileiqi January 27, 2006
Hi,

I would like to know which ARM development kits is the best compiler ? 

(1) Keil's ARM development environment
(2) ARM' s RealView (or ADS) 
(3) IAR

Some company web has a benchmark to compare its product to others, that
really confuse you. Thanks in advance.



nileiqi wrote:

> Some company web has a benchmark to compare its product to others, that > really confuse you. Thanks in advance.
This is intentional. The answer to your question depends on what you require from the compiler.
GCC !

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> Hi, > > I would like to know which ARM development kits is the best compiler ? > > (1) Keil's ARM development environment > (2) ARM' s RealView (or ADS) > (3) IAR > > Some company web has a benchmark to compare its product to others, that > really confuse you. Thanks in advance. > > >
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> (1) Keil's ARM development environment > (2) ARM' s RealView (or ADS) > (3) IAR
By the way I guess that (1) and (2) are very probably goind to be the same as ARM has bought Keil in September last year... A good GCC based low cost alternative is Crossworks for ARM (from Rowley), I've now used it on three project with good results. Friendly, -- Robert Lacoste ALCIOM - The mixed signal experts www.alciom.com
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> Hi, > > I would like to know which ARM development kits is the best compiler ? > > (1) Keil's ARM development environment > (2) ARM' s RealView (or ADS) > (3) IAR > > Some company web has a benchmark to compare its product to others, that > really confuse you. Thanks in advance. >
I have used all three, plus Rowley CrossWorks and command line GCC. As you would expect there are pro's and con's to all. I would suggest making a list of what you want the compiler to do and cost, THEN obtain demo's of all the options to see which suits you best. As far as benchmarks go - are you interested in size or speed? Or are neither of importance if your processor is large enough? The presented benchmarks tend to contradict each other. The most important thing to you might actually be 'how reliable is the compiler', and benchmarks don't tell you that! Regards, Richard. http://www.FreeRTOS.org
Robert Lacoste wrote:
> A good GCC based low cost alternative is Crossworks for ARM (from Rowley), > I've now used it on three project with good results.
I would second that. I'm in the process of porting three projects from IAR to Crossworks (http://www.rowley.co.uk). For my initial tests I could not see any significant difference in preformance between the GCC and IAR compilers. The GCC tend to generate slightly bigger code though (5-10% bigger) but in my application that's not a factor. Rowley offers a 30-day trial. Try it. If nothing else, the IDE is a LOT better then IAR's - and much less buggy!
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> > "nileiqi" <nileiqi@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:DrKdnQEbwu5GgEfenZ2dnUVZ_vmdnZ2d@giganews.com... > > Hi, > > > > I would like to know which ARM development kits is the best compiler ? > > > > (1) Keil's ARM development environment > > (2) ARM' s RealView (or ADS) > > (3) IAR > > > > Some company web has a benchmark to compare its product to others, that > > really confuse you. Thanks in advance. > > > > I have used all three, plus Rowley CrossWorks and command line GCC. As
you
> would expect there are pro's and con's to all.
Any experience with ImageCraft? Meindert
> Any experience with ImageCraft?
No, can't help there. Regards, Richard. http://www.FreeRTOS.org
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precompiled binaries available at www.gnuarm.com.  You will also find a
lot of documentation.

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Anders wrote:
> Robert Lacoste wrote: > > A good GCC based low cost alternative is Crossworks for ARM (from Rowley), > > I've now used it on three project with good results. > > I would second that. I'm in the process of porting three projects > from IAR to Crossworks (http://www.rowley.co.uk). > For my initial tests I could not see any significant difference > in preformance between the GCC and IAR compilers. The GCC tend > to generate slightly bigger code though (5-10% bigger) but in my > application that's not a factor. > > Rowley offers a 30-day trial. Try it. If nothing else, the IDE > is a LOT better then IAR's - and much less buggy!
In article <DrKdnQEbwu5GgEfenZ2dnUVZ_vmdnZ2d@giganews.com>, nileiqi
<nileiqi@hotmail.com> writes
>Hi, > >I would like to know which ARM development kits is the best compiler ? > >(1) Keil's ARM development environment >(2) ARM' s RealView (or ADS) >(3) IAR
The Keil compiler no longer exists. So 1 and 2 are the same. The benchmarks are:- Keil http://www.keil.com/benchmks/carm_v0code.htm though these have come in for some argument. I would expect that the current Keil compiler is the same as the ARM-ADS one shown. IAR http://www.iar.com/p43943/p43943_eng.php These benchmarks were before Keil == ARM. There is the http://www.raisonance.com/support/tech_articles.php which has a set of benchmarks for "their" compiler which is a Gcc compiler. As an interesting note I understand that the Greenhills licence forbids the running, or at least the publishing of any benchmarks. The point about all these is they all show that the compiler they are selling is the better one..... Which would suggest that all benchmarks are meaningless. On the other hand when it comes to dev kits. Atmel, IAR, Philips and ST all produce kits. They are all reasonable. IT depends on what peripheral set you want. -- \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ \/\/\/\/\ Chris Hills Staffs England /\/\/\/\/ /\/\/ chris@phaedsys.org www.phaedsys.org \/\/\ \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/