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Started by panfilero February 13, 2007
On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 13:53:08 +0000, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

> > >John Fields wrote: > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> >You're usually profane. >> >> --- >> Profanity is in the eye of the beholder, dickhead. > >Says it all really.
--- You're not really the sharpest knife in the drawer, are you? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-referential_humor -- JF
On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 05:47:37 -0600, John Fields wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 07:02:04 +0000, Eeyore >>John Fields wrote: >> >>> Fuck you, asshole pussy. >> >>Mr Calm and Collected speaks again ! > > What makes you think I can't be calm, collected, and profane all at > the same time, motherfucker?
It's not that you "can't", it's just that calm collectedness is very seldom associated with profanity. ;-) Thanks, Rich
On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 18:18:53 GMT, Rich Grise <rich@example.net>
wrote:

>On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 05:47:37 -0600, John Fields wrote: >> On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 07:02:04 +0000, Eeyore >>>John Fields wrote: >>> >>>> Fuck you, asshole pussy. >>> >>>Mr Calm and Collected speaks again ! >> >> What makes you think I can't be calm, collected, and profane all at >> the same time, motherfucker? > >It's not that you "can't", it's just that calm collectedness is very >seldom associated with profanity. ;-)
--- Oh, well... -- JF
On Feb 13, 8:42 pm, Rich Grise <r...@example.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 16:10:42 -0800, rickman wrote: > > On Feb 13, 2:35 pm, John Fields <jfie...@austininstruments.com> wrote: > >> --- > >> Um, It's TTL, not CMOS. The pullup isn't a BFD. > > >> Here's a 7406, run it and watch what happens to the output when the > >> input floats: > > >> Version 4 > >> SHEET 1 880 680 > > ...snip... > > > Well, let's see... rude, obnoxious and ignorant. > > What a great combination!!! > > Huh? He was a little bit, um, abrupt, but I don't find his post "rude, > obnoxious and ignorant" at all. :-)
It was certainly ignorant since he is equating a pristine simulation to the vagaries of the real world. It was rude because of the way he tossed simulation input data into the discussion rather than an explanation of the idea. It was obnoxious because he felt the need to use profanity (even in an abbreviation it is still a profanity). I understand that some may not have been offended by his initial post, but I feel the subsequent posts have vindicated my opinion. I especially find his physical threats to be very amusing. It would seem he expects the relative anonymity of newsgroups to protect him from an unknown aversary. He would be pretty stupid to actually challenge someone that he knows nothing about. But then we all know how empty a threat is that consists of words typed on an electronic page.
"rickman" <gnuarm@gmail.com> wrote in message 
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> On Feb 13, 8:42 pm, Rich Grise <r...@example.net> wrote: >> On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 16:10:42 -0800, rickman wrote: >> > On Feb 13, 2:35 pm, John Fields <jfie...@austininstruments.com> wrote: >> >> --- >> >> Um, It's TTL, not CMOS. The pullup isn't a BFD. >> >> >> Here's a 7406, run it and watch what happens to the output when the >> >> input floats: >> >> >> Version 4 >> >> SHEET 1 880 680 >> > ...snip... >> >> > Well, let's see... rude, obnoxious and ignorant. >> > What a great combination!!! >> >> Huh? He was a little bit, um, abrupt, but I don't find his post "rude, >> obnoxious and ignorant" at all. :-) > > It was certainly ignorant since he is equating a pristine simulation > to the vagaries of the real world. It was rude because of the way he > tossed simulation input data into the discussion rather than an > explanation of the idea. It was obnoxious because he felt the need to > use profanity (even in an abbreviation it is still a profanity). > > I understand that some may not have been offended by his initial post, > but I feel the subsequent posts have vindicated my opinion. I > especially find his physical threats to be very amusing. It would > seem he expects the relative anonymity of newsgroups to protect him > from an unknown aversary. He would be pretty stupid to actually > challenge someone that he knows nothing about. But then we all know > how empty a threat is that consists of words typed on an electronic > page. > > >
Hmmmmmm OK... Chill out dude. There is no need to display your ignorance or be rude about things. Life's too short for that. I know this from experience. There you go, how does that sit with you? Are you now going to type a 247 line answer in your own defense? How long before you start accusing people of Ad Hominem attacks? BTW, Rich made a suggestion.... John gave him an answer. There was nothing implied in the answer that suggested that the netlist was anything more than a picture to demonstrate the answer. A picture paints a thousand words you know.... You might notice his other posts in this thread where he spent a great deal of time explaining things along with lots of nice ascii art. The response to Rich was niether ignorant or rude. You just decided to take hold of the wrong end of the wrong stick and call John Ignorant and Rude. Why are you surprised he responded in the manner he did. John typed BFD....... good grief Big Deal. Anonimity? I don't think so. John Fields AKA Il Presidente. Austin Instruments, Texas And you would also know that whilst they are not close friends John and Rich know each other through SED so Johns answer to Rich would not have offended him in the least. What is that part about lurking in a newsgroup before you open your mouth and put your foot in it? DNA
On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 05:49:55 -0800, rickman wrote:

> On Feb 13, 8:42 pm, Rich Grise <r...@example.net> wrote: >> On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 16:10:42 -0800, rickman wrote: >> > On Feb 13, 2:35 pm, John Fields <jfie...@austininstruments.com> wrote: >> >> --- >> >> Um, It's TTL, not CMOS. The pullup isn't a BFD.
...
> It was certainly ignorant since he is equating a pristine simulation > to the vagaries of the real world. It was rude because of the way he > tossed simulation input data into the discussion rather than an > explanation of the idea. It was obnoxious because he felt the need to > use profanity (even in an abbreviation it is still a profanity).
What profanity? "BFD"? BFD. Thanks, Rich
On Feb 20, 12:39 pm, Rich Grise <r...@example.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 05:49:55 -0800, rickman wrote: > > On Feb 13, 8:42 pm, Rich Grise <r...@example.net> wrote: > >> On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 16:10:42 -0800, rickman wrote: > >> > On Feb 13, 2:35 pm, John Fields <jfie...@austininstruments.com> wrote: > >> >> --- > >> >> Um, It's TTL, not CMOS. The pullup isn't a BFD. > ... > > It was certainly ignorant since he is equating a pristine simulation > > to the vagaries of the real world. It was rude because of the way he > > tossed simulation input data into the discussion rather than an > > explanation of the idea. It was obnoxious because he felt the need to > > use profanity (even in an abbreviation it is still a profanity). > > What profanity? "BFD"? > > BFD. > > Thanks, > Rich
You make my point for me...
On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 17:07:07 GMT, the renowned "Genome"
<mrspamizgood@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> >"rickman" <gnuarm@gmail.com> wrote in message >news:1171979395.620911.84920@v45g2000cwv.googlegroups.com... >> On Feb 13, 8:42 pm, Rich Grise <r...@example.net> wrote: >>> On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 16:10:42 -0800, rickman wrote: >>> > On Feb 13, 2:35 pm, John Fields <jfie...@austininstruments.com> wrote: >>> >> --- >>> >> Um, It's TTL, not CMOS. The pullup isn't a BFD. >>> >>> >> Here's a 7406, run it and watch what happens to the output when the >>> >> input floats: >>> >>> >> Version 4 >>> >> SHEET 1 880 680 >>> > ...snip... >>> >>> > Well, let's see... rude, obnoxious and ignorant. >>> > What a great combination!!! >>> >>> Huh? He was a little bit, um, abrupt, but I don't find his post "rude, >>> obnoxious and ignorant" at all. :-) >> >> It was certainly ignorant since he is equating a pristine simulation >> to the vagaries of the real world. It was rude because of the way he >> tossed simulation input data into the discussion rather than an >> explanation of the idea. It was obnoxious because he felt the need to >> use profanity (even in an abbreviation it is still a profanity). >> >> I understand that some may not have been offended by his initial post, >> but I feel the subsequent posts have vindicated my opinion. I >> especially find his physical threats to be very amusing. It would >> seem he expects the relative anonymity of newsgroups to protect him >> from an unknown aversary. He would be pretty stupid to actually >> challenge someone that he knows nothing about. But then we all know >> how empty a threat is that consists of words typed on an electronic >> page. >> >> >> > >Hmmmmmm OK... > >Chill out dude. There is no need to display your ignorance or be rude about >things. Life's too short for that. I know this from experience. > >There you go, how does that sit with you? > >Are you now going to type a 247 line answer in your own defense? > >How long before you start accusing people of Ad Hominem attacks? > >BTW, Rich made a suggestion.... John gave him an answer. There was nothing >implied in the answer that suggested that the netlist was anything more than >a picture to demonstrate the answer. A picture paints a thousand words you >know.... > >You might notice his other posts in this thread where he spent a great deal >of time explaining things along with lots of nice ascii art. > >The response to Rich was niether ignorant or rude. You just decided to take >hold of the wrong end of the wrong stick and call John Ignorant and Rude. >Why are you surprised he responded in the manner he did. > >John typed BFD....... good grief Big Deal. > >Anonimity? I don't think so. > >John Fields AKA Il Presidente. Austin Instruments, Texas > >And you would also know that whilst they are not close friends John and Rich >know each other through SED so Johns answer to Rich would not have offended >him in the least. > >What is that part about lurking in a newsgroup before you open your mouth >and put your foot in it? > >DNA
And how does that make you feel?
"Spehro Pefhany" <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote in message 
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> On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 17:07:07 GMT, the renowned "Genome" > <mrspamizgood@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > >> >>"rickman" <gnuarm@gmail.com> wrote in message >>news:1171979395.620911.84920@v45g2000cwv.googlegroups.com... >>> On Feb 13, 8:42 pm, Rich Grise <r...@example.net> wrote: >>>> On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 16:10:42 -0800, rickman wrote: >>>> > On Feb 13, 2:35 pm, John Fields <jfie...@austininstruments.com> >>>> > wrote: >>>> >> --- >>>> >> Um, It's TTL, not CMOS. The pullup isn't a BFD. >>>> >>>> >> Here's a 7406, run it and watch what happens to the output when the >>>> >> input floats: >>>> >>>> >> Version 4 >>>> >> SHEET 1 880 680 >>>> > ...snip... >>>> >>>> > Well, let's see... rude, obnoxious and ignorant. >>>> > What a great combination!!! >>>> >>>> Huh? He was a little bit, um, abrupt, but I don't find his post "rude, >>>> obnoxious and ignorant" at all. :-) >>> >>> It was certainly ignorant since he is equating a pristine simulation >>> to the vagaries of the real world. It was rude because of the way he >>> tossed simulation input data into the discussion rather than an >>> explanation of the idea. It was obnoxious because he felt the need to >>> use profanity (even in an abbreviation it is still a profanity). >>> >>> I understand that some may not have been offended by his initial post, >>> but I feel the subsequent posts have vindicated my opinion. I >>> especially find his physical threats to be very amusing. It would >>> seem he expects the relative anonymity of newsgroups to protect him >>> from an unknown aversary. He would be pretty stupid to actually >>> challenge someone that he knows nothing about. But then we all know >>> how empty a threat is that consists of words typed on an electronic >>> page. >>> >>> >>> >> >>Hmmmmmm OK... >> >>Chill out dude. There is no need to display your ignorance or be rude >>about >>things. Life's too short for that. I know this from experience. >> >>There you go, how does that sit with you? >> >>Are you now going to type a 247 line answer in your own defense? >> >>How long before you start accusing people of Ad Hominem attacks? >> >>BTW, Rich made a suggestion.... John gave him an answer. There was nothing >>implied in the answer that suggested that the netlist was anything more >>than >>a picture to demonstrate the answer. A picture paints a thousand words you >>know.... >> >>You might notice his other posts in this thread where he spent a great >>deal >>of time explaining things along with lots of nice ascii art. >> >>The response to Rich was niether ignorant or rude. You just decided to >>take >>hold of the wrong end of the wrong stick and call John Ignorant and Rude. >>Why are you surprised he responded in the manner he did. >> >>John typed BFD....... good grief Big Deal. >> >>Anonimity? I don't think so. >> >>John Fields AKA Il Presidente. Austin Instruments, Texas >> >>And you would also know that whilst they are not close friends John and >>Rich >>know each other through SED so Johns answer to Rich would not have >>offended >>him in the least. >> >>What is that part about lurking in a newsgroup before you open your mouth >>and put your foot in it? >> >>DNA > > And how does that make you feel? >
Erm..... Don't know really. I'm not too good at this touchy feely stuff. I suppose I must feel good. Mr Rickman must have me on PLONK since he has replied to Rich but ignored my post. Strange that.... insult one person you perceive to have insulted someone else and then chew on the other person because they were not insulted. That Rich Grise is an ungrateful bandicoot and no mistaking! He's probably really Canadian and therefore French and we know all about those types. DNA ......or am I missing something here?
On 20 Feb 2007 05:49:55 -0800, "rickman" <gnuarm@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Feb 13, 8:42 pm, Rich Grise <r...@example.net> wrote: >> On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 16:10:42 -0800, rickman wrote: >> > On Feb 13, 2:35 pm, John Fields <jfie...@austininstruments.com> wrote: >> >> --- >> >> Um, It's TTL, not CMOS. The pullup isn't a BFD. >> >> >> Here's a 7406, run it and watch what happens to the output when the >> >> input floats: >> >> >> Version 4 >> >> SHEET 1 880 680 >> > ...snip... >> >> > Well, let's see... rude, obnoxious and ignorant. >> > What a great combination!!! >> >> Huh? He was a little bit, um, abrupt, but I don't find his post "rude, >> obnoxious and ignorant" at all. :-) > >It was certainly ignorant since he is equating a pristine simulation >to the vagaries of the real world.
--- Not at all. The purity of simulation allows the vagaries of the real world (of which simulation is a part, BTW) to be studied in ways which would be impossible without it. Sorry you didn't get it. Never mind predicting the behavior of circuits using 100 million transistors, Just think about a wind tunnel and how many lives _haven't_ been lost because of that sort of simulation. Even yours, perhaps, in which case had it not been for simulation, which you decry, we wouldn't be having this discussion. ---
>It was rude because of the way he >tossed simulation input data into the discussion rather than an >explanation of the idea.
--- Again, not at all. (IMO, of course) Most of us here are bright enough to extrapolate an end given a beginning and a bit or two of data, and that's the fun of it, comparing the ends. But you're new here, aren't you? Welcome to the garden of earthly delights! I'm sure you'll fit in just fine. ---
>It was obnoxious because he felt the need to >use profanity (even in an abbreviation it is still a profanity).
--- Well 4Q2! Ah, profanity! The language of the gods. Gettin' down and dirty and not pulling any punches, and you still have to call someone who's fucked your sister, "Dad" ? Are you as fat as Guy Macon? Strange, but I get a vision of you as a porker. Maybe just the way you write. ---
>I understand that some may not have been offended by his initial post, >but I feel the subsequent posts have vindicated my opinion.
--- Yes, of course you're right, and I'm shit (with a capital "I") and will soon become the fertilizer of your choice. ---
>I especially find his physical threats to be very amusing. It would >seem he expects the relative anonymity of newsgroups to protect him >from an unknown aversary.
--- Adversary? That's for the birds. How sweet it would have been if I hadn't had to explain it. ---
>He would be pretty stupid to actually challenge someone that he knows >nothing about.
--- That's true, but so far your vague threats don't carry much weight. Are you .gov and you want to kill me because I can easily de monstrate how fucking stupid you are? Amazing medium, this. But then we all know that. -- JF