Universal flash programmer

HI,

is there anything like universal programmer where it is possible to
program the Flash and EEPROM of  different microcontrollers.

reagards,
jis

In article <1176477360.886171.278930@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, jis 
<jismagic@gmail.com> writes
>HI,
>
>is there anything like universal programmer where it is possible to
>program the Flash and EEPROM of  different microcontrollers.
>
>reagards,
>jis


Yes. Lots of them. Obviously  they usually need adapters for different 
packages and MCU A collection of adaptors can cost more than the basic 
programmer.

It depends on how "universal" you need to be.

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On Apr 13, 8:16 am, "jis" <jisma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> HI,
>
> is there anything like universal programmer where it is possible to
> program the Flash and EEPROM of  different microcontrollers.
>
> reagards,
> jis

Usually I would say that "Google is your friend".  A quick search
shows that there's lots out there.

In this case however, I'll say:  "Have you ever heard of eBay?"
There's a bunch of them for sale on that site.

On Apr 13, 6:16 pm, "jis" <jisma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> HI,
>
> is there anything like universal programmer where it is possible to
> program the Flash and EEPROM of  different microcontrollers.
>
> reagards,
> jis

Most are JTAG based, but those I have seen use internal
silicon parts to program the flash (whether it is on or
off-chip). Many of these internal interfaces are kept
secret by the manucfacturers in order to maintain control
over the development tools (e.g. the JTAG based COP
interface for Freescale's PPC based processors).
 My way around this is to use only the standard JTAG
part of such chips, i.e. the boundary scan facility,
they still publish bsdl files. I use it to drive the
address and data lines in the way it takes to program
the flash; works on external flash chips, whether your
JTAG tools can be tweaked to do that I don't know (I
use my own internal development environment, 100%
software independent on the outside world which is
not the usual case).

Dimiter

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jis wrote:
> HI,
> 
> is there anything like universal programmer where it is possible to
> program the Flash and EEPROM of  different microcontrollers.
> 
> reagards,
> jis
> 
a "Device Programmer"  My Nedhams works fine

In article <1176490380.421280.295940@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, Didi 
<dp@tgi-sci.com> writes
>On Apr 13, 6:16 pm, "jis" <jisma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> HI,
>>
>> is there anything like universal programmer where it is possible to
>> program the Flash and EEPROM of  different microcontrollers.
>>
>> reagards,
>> jis
>
>Most are JTAG based,

No they are not.

> but those I have seen use internal
>silicon parts to program the flash (whether it is on or
>off-chip). Many of these internal interfaces are kept
>secret by the manucfacturers in order to maintain control
>over the development tools (e.g. the JTAG based COP
>interface for Freescale's PPC based processors).

This is also not correct. In fact most publish the protocols.

> My way around this is to use only the standard JTAG
>part of such chips, i.e. the boundary scan facility,
>they still publish bsdl files. I use it to drive the
>address and data lines in the way it takes to program
>the flash; works on external flash chips, whether your
>JTAG tools can be tweaked to do that I don't know

You are talking very specifically.


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"jis" <jismagic@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:1176477360.886171.278930@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> HI,
>
> is there anything like universal programmer where it is possible to
> program the Flash and EEPROM of  different microcontrollers.
>
> reagards,
> jis

I use a Conitec Galep III and it programs pretty much all dual in-line 
devices. I also have an Yamatchi adaptor which allows me to use 32 pin 
PLCC devices. It's all fairly low cost and fine for development but 
wouldn't be robust enough for production purposes unless you were 
working in very low quantities. 

On Apr 16, 3:20 am, "Tom Lucas"
<news@REMOVE_tlcs_THIS_dot_TO_fsnet_REPLY_dot_co.uk> wrote:
> "jis" <jisma...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1176477360.886171.278930@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>
> > HI,
>
> > is there anything like universal programmer where it is possible to
> > program the Flash and EEPROM of  different microcontrollers.
>
> > reagards,
> > jis
>
> I use a Conitec Galep III and it programs pretty much all dual in-line
> devices. I also have an Yamatchi adaptor which allows me to use 32 pin
> PLCC devices. It's all fairly low cost and fine for development but
> wouldn't be robust enough for production purposes unless you were
> working in very low quantities.

Hi,

I use CAN to program the controllers.But I use a driver which is
specific to every controller. Can i make it more generic. Can I add
another layer on which I can confifure for different controllers very
easily.

regards,
jis

"jis" <jismagic@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:1177515038.094444.68710@s33g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 16, 3:20 am, "Tom Lucas"
> <news@REMOVE_tlcs_THIS_dot_TO_fsnet_REPLY_dot_co.uk> wrote:
>> "jis" <jisma...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1176477360.886171.278930@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > HI,
>>
>> > is there anything like universal programmer where it is possible to
>> > program the Flash and EEPROM of  different microcontrollers.
>>
>> > reagards,
>> > jis
>>
>> I use a Conitec Galep III and it programs pretty much all dual 
>> in-line
>> devices. I also have an Yamatchi adaptor which allows me to use 32 
>> pin
>> PLCC devices. It's all fairly low cost and fine for development but
>> wouldn't be robust enough for production purposes unless you were
>> working in very low quantities.
>
> Hi,
>
> I use CAN to program the controllers.But I use a driver which is
> specific to every controller. Can i make it more generic. Can I add
> another layer on which I can confifure for different controllers very
> easily.
>
> regards,
> jis

Only you can answer that question. It is certainly possible but only you 
know if you are capable of writing such a program.

I have no idea if anything is avaiable commercially that will do that 
but a quick google should yield results.