I noted that others were looking at and commenting on low cost solutions for TCP and related services as network controllers. One of the best solutions today is the Microchip dsPIC and PIC 24. They are not 8 bits but 16 bits and share lots of great pic features. This is what you get: - low cost hardware - support for just about all interconnect you can imagine (no firewire though) - cots software - low cost development - off the shelf rtos products - tiny footprints - dsp libraries - complete integration some links that might be useful are: http://rowebots.com/Embedded_Processor_support/microchip_dspic http://rowebots.com/products/dspnano http://www.rowebots.com/downloads/DSPnano_dsPIC.pdf http://microchip.com
Low cost TCP enabled devices
Started by ●August 16, 2007
Reply by ●August 16, 20072007-08-16
On Aug 16, 12:59 pm, "rowebits" <p...@rowebots.net> wrote:> I noted that others were looking at and commenting on low cost solutions > for TCP and related services as network controllers. > One of the best solutions today is the Microchip dsPIC and PIC 24.These are great devices, but the lack of iternal Ethernet makes them less suitable as TCP or network controllers. I've heard they're work on this, though, and may have an Ethernet member of the family next year. For now you'd need a separate Ethernet chip to use this family in that role. Eric
Reply by ●August 16, 20072007-08-16
Eric <englere_geo@yahoo.com> writes:> For now you'd need a separate Ethernet chip to use this family in > that role.Pairing a PIC24F and an ENC27J60 is pretty painless, though.
Reply by ●August 16, 20072007-08-16
Un bel giorno rowebits digit�:> I noted that others were looking at and commenting on low cost solutions > for TCP and related services as network controllers.IMHO the best features/cost solution for Ethernet embedded support are Luminary Stellaris family (LM3S6xxx). Fast, flash-based, ARM compatible, MAC+PHY *on chip*, all the libraries are free, and the prices start from 10$ for sampling quantities. -- emboliaschizoide.splinder.com
Reply by ●August 16, 20072007-08-16
On Aug 17, 2:18 am, DJ Delorie <d...@delorie.com> wrote:> Eric <englere_...@yahoo.com> writes: > > For now you'd need a separate Ethernet chip to use this family in > > that role. > > Pairing a PIC24F and an ENC27J60 is pretty painless, though.So do the rabbit and realtek;-) ali
Reply by ●August 17, 20072007-08-17
rowebits wrote:> I noted that others were looking at and commenting on low cost solutions > for TCP and related services as network controllers. > > One of the best solutions today is the Microchip dsPIC and PIC 24. They > are not 8 bits but 16 bits and share lots of great pic features. This is > what you get: > > - low cost hardware > - support for just about all interconnect you can imagine (no firewire > though) > - cots software > - low cost development > - off the shelf rtos products > - tiny footprints > - dsp libraries > - complete integration > > some links that might be useful are: > > http://rowebots.com/Embedded_Processor_support/microchip_dspic > http://rowebots.com/products/dspnano > http://www.rowebots.com/downloads/DSPnano_dsPIC.pdf > http://microchip.com > > > > > >I would guess the new T2 from Sun is probably overkill? :-)
Reply by ●August 17, 20072007-08-17
On Aug 17, 6:10 am, dalai lamah <antonio12...@hotmail.com> wrote:> Un bel giorno rowebits digit=F2: > > > I noted that others were looking at and commenting on low cost solutions > > for TCP and related services as network controllers. > > IMHO the best features/cost solution for Ethernet embedded support are > Luminary Stellaris family (LM3S6xxx). Fast, flash-based, ARM compatible, > MAC+PHY *on chip*, all the libraries are free, and the prices start from > 10$ for sampling quantities. > > -- > emboliaschizoide.splinder.com--snip-->all the libraries are free, and the prices start from >10$ for sampling quantities.Do they provide source as well? ali
Reply by ●August 17, 20072007-08-17
Ali wrote:> On Aug 17, 6:10 am, dalai lamah <antonio12...@hotmail.com> wrote: >> Un bel giorno rowebits digit�: >> >>> I noted that others were looking at and commenting on low cost solutions >>> for TCP and related services as network controllers. >> IMHO the best features/cost solution for Ethernet embedded support are >> Luminary Stellaris family (LM3S6xxx). Fast, flash-based, ARM compatible, >> MAC+PHY *on chip*, all the libraries are free, and the prices start from >> 10$ for sampling quantities. >> >> -- >> emboliaschizoide.splinder.com > > --snip-- >> all the libraries are free, and the prices start from >> 10$ for sampling quantities. > > Do they provide source as well? > > ali >Are the Luminary devices with built in Ethernet actually available yet? It seemed a little unclear from their website last time I looked (a few weeks ago). Martin
Reply by ●August 17, 20072007-08-17
dalai lamah <antonio12358@hotmail.com> writes:> IMHO the best features/cost solution for Ethernet embedded support > are Luminary Stellaris family (LM3S6xxx). Fast, flash-based, ARM > compatible, MAC+PHY *on chip*, all the libraries are free, and the > prices start from 10$ for sampling quantities.The Freescale MCF52230CAF60 costs $8,50� and has on-chip FLASH, SRAM, and Ethernet PHY. I'm using gcc for cross development under Linux. Petter �) http://tinyurl.com/34m4nu -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?
Reply by ●August 17, 20072007-08-17
On 17 , 01:10, dalai lamah <antonio12...@hotmail.com> wrote:> Un bel giorno rowebits digit=F2: > > > I noted that others were looking at and commenting on low cost solutions > > for TCP and related services as network controllers. > > IMHO the best features/cost solution for Ethernet embedded support are > Luminary Stellaris family (LM3S6xxx). Fast, flash-based, ARM compatible, > MAC+PHY *on chip*, all the libraries are free, and the prices start from > 10$ for sampling quantities. > > -- > emboliaschizoide.splinder.comThe best solution I've seen so far is the PIC18F97J60 - 128KB Flash device 40Mhz clock, integrated Ethernet MAC+PHY and under $6 for 1K quantity. Microchip TCP-IP stack is the most sophisticated stack available royality free and with completely open source code. DHCP, FTP, SNMP, SMTP, HTTP, UDP, TCP, IP, PPP, SLIP, dynamic CGI scripts, Java scripts, once you fit the stack components inside your device you can do only web programming and no need to bother with the low level layers, all device resources are avaialble to you as dynamic %xx variables, so you can manipulate them. we have several boards based on the Microchip's stack (on the link in my signature), and I've never seen easier way to Internet enable something like with the free Microchip TCP-IP stack! you can program when push the button on your embedded devices to send e-mail with the measured ADC value, etc etc with two rows of web page html code - no need to dig in C nor assembly! Best regards Tsvetan --- PCB prototypes for $26 at http://run.to/pcb (http://www.olimex.com/ pcb) Development boards for ARM, AVR, PIC, MAXQ2000 and MSP430 (http:// www.olimex.com/dev)
