Hi there, I am currently designing an FPGA board, featuring two Xilinx Virtex-4 FPGAs. I've already posted another question concerning a correct JTAG chain implementation a few days ago and gained pretty good response. But some problems remain... although on another topic: I'll be using the Xilinx Virtex-4 FX series FPGAs featuring the high-speed MGTs. The MGTs are located in two rows on each FPGA, each requiring their own MGT reference clock, i.e. four reference clock inputs have to be fed altogether plus at least one additional clock input for the core logic per FPGA. Because the FPGAs have to exchange data synchronously (via the standard GPIOs) I thought about using the same reference clocks for both FPGA and making them the same as the MGT reference. Unfortunately that leads to a clock signal that has to be distributed to at least 6 FPGA clock inputs. I don't think that a regular low-jitter clock device (and it HAS to be low-jitter as for the reference for the MGTs) can drive 6 inputs over several centimeters. I already used the ICS843020 clock synthesizer in several other projects and wanted to use it again. Reason for the ICS is that it features a programmable output frequency in the range of 35 - 700 MHz. Problem is, the ICS843020 has only two outputs. The Epson EG2121CA device that is proposed in the Virtex-4 MGT user guide is not suitable because these devices are restricted to one fixed frequency. Maybe a clock buffer or multi-output clock distribution device is the solution here, but I am afraid every additional device in the clock network would introduce additional jitter which is the most critical aspect in this application. Therefore I woul prefer a solution without those kind of devices... if possible. Has anyone ever had a similar problem and knows about an adequate solution? Any help (if possible) is much appreciated. Thanks! Regards Toni
jitter-sensitive multi-output clk distribution for multi-gigabit-transceivers
Started by ●November 16, 2007
Reply by ●November 16, 20072007-11-16
On Nov 16, 11:15 am, "Toni Merwec" <mistertorp...@freenet.de> wrote:> Hi there, > > I am currently designing an FPGA board, featuring two Xilinx Virtex-4 FPGAs. > I've already posted another question concerning a correct JTAG chain > implementation a few days ago and gained pretty good response. But some > problems remain... although on another topic: > > I'll be using the Xilinx Virtex-4 FX series FPGAs featuring the high-speed > MGTs. The MGTs are located in two rows on each FPGA, each requiring their > own MGT reference clock, i.e. four reference clock inputs have to be fed > altogether plus at least one additional clock input for the core logic per > FPGA. Because the FPGAs have to exchange data synchronously (via the > standard GPIOs) I thought about using the same reference clocks for both > FPGA and making them the same as the MGT reference. Unfortunately that leads > to a clock signal that has to be distributed to at least 6 FPGA clock > inputs. > > I don't think that a regular low-jitter clock device (and it HAS to be > low-jitter as for the reference for the MGTs) can drive 6 inputs over > several centimeters. I already used the ICS843020 clock synthesizer in > several other projects and wanted to use it again. Reason for the ICS is > that it features a programmable output frequency in the range of 35 - 700 > MHz. Problem is, the ICS843020 has only two outputs. The Epson EG2121CA > device that is proposed in the Virtex-4 MGT user guide is not suitable > because these devices are restricted to one fixed frequency. > > Maybe a clock buffer or multi-output clock distribution device is the > solution here, but I am afraid every additional device in the clock network > would introduce additional jitter which is the most critical aspect in this > application. Therefore I woul prefer a solution without those kind of > devices... if possible.http://www.onsemi.com/pub/Collateral/MC100EP210S-D.PDF ON semiconductor list some 272 clock buffers - this is one of them. -- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
Reply by ●November 16, 20072007-11-16
On 16 nov, 05:15, "Toni Merwec" <mistertorp...@freenet.de> wrote:> > I don't think that a regular low-jitter clock device (and it HAS to be > low-jitter as for the reference for the MGTs) can drive 6 inputs over > several centimeters. I already used the ICS843020 clock synthesizer in > several other projects and wanted to use it again. Reason for the ICS is > that it features a programmable output frequency in the range of 35 - 700 > MHz. Problem is, the ICS843020 has only two outputs. The Epson EG2121CA > device that is proposed in the Virtex-4 MGT user guide is not suitable > because these devices are restricted to one fixed frequency.Check out ICS843001-21: http://www.xilinx.com/products/boards/ml505/datasheets/ics843001-21.pdf It's a frequency synthesizer with very low jitter. It's used on Xilinx ML505 board for RocketIOs. Then I'm pretty sure that you can find a low skew clock buffer to drive your 6 clocks. Patrick