While researching something else, I ran into the
following rather interesting opinions:
Consolidating the MCU market around the ARM architecture
("It's inevitable. ARM's Cortex-M3 processor core is going
dominate the MCU market.")
http://www.embedded.com/columns/guest/207001013
Luminary Micro Announces 32-bit Microcontrollers for $1.00
-- First to Launch Products Based on the ARM Cortex M3 Processor
http://www.design-reuse.com/news/12919/luminary-micro-32-bit-microcontrollers-1-00-launch-products-arm-cortex-m3-processor.html
http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/03-27-2006/0004327081&EDATE=
Rich feature set key in MCU market:
http://www.ciol.com/Semicon/Design-Trends/News-Reports/Rich-feature-set-key-in-MCU-market/10708107822/0/
$1.68 per chip QTY 100:
http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?qs=6ARB0lp6jlUH%2fsxfAjgajA%3d%3d
http://www.luminarymicro.com/products/lm3s101.html
$249.00 Development Kit:
http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?qs=6ARB0lp6jlWcf9eiWJhtdw%3d%3d
http://www.luminarymicro.com/products/development_kits.html
$79.00 Daughter board:
http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?qs=6ARB0lp6jlX7a0oGmOj3vA%3d%3d
http://www.luminarymicro.com/products/expansion_daughterboards.html
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Guy Macon <http://www.GuyMacon.com/> Guy Macon <http://www.GuyMacon.com/>
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32-bit Microcontroller for $1.00 -Guy Macon
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Reply by ●July 21, 20082008-07-21
Is this even news at this point??? Some two or three years ago I pointed out that the ARM chips were getting cheaper and cheaper (at that time around $2) commenting that there is getting to be no market for the common 8 bit CPU. There were a couple who pointed out that there are huge numbers of 8 bit devices used in the "invisible", mass applications where even $0.01 makes a difference. Of course those apps will always use 4 or 8 bit processors. But the trend has been pretty obvious for some time now. Mostly it has been reported that the 16 bit parts are being skipped over migrating from 8 directly to 32 bit. I have also seen predictions that the 8 bit market will level off and start to decline although keeping huge numbers. For designs that don't need to save every last penny, it really has gotten to the point that the 8 and 16 bit parts have little need. Maybe if power is the ultimate requirement a 32 bit part can't keep up with an 8 bit part, but even there the newer processes that are being used mostly with 32 bit parts are making them competitive in the lowest power apps too. Rick On Jul 21, 3:10 pm, Guy Macon <http://www.GuyMacon.com/> wrote:> While researching something else, I ran into the > following rather interesting opinions: > > Consolidating the MCU market around the ARM architecture > ("It's inevitable. ARM's Cortex-M3 processor core is going > dominate the MCU market.")http://www.embedded.com/columns/guest/207001013 > > Luminary Micro Announces 32-bit Microcontrollers for $1.00 > -- First to Launch Products Based on the ARM Cortex M3 Processorhttp://www.design-reuse.com/news/12919/luminary-micro-32-bit-microcon...http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/stor... > > Rich feature set key in MCU market:http://www.ciol.com/Semicon/Design-Trends/News-Reports/Rich-feature-s... > > $1.68 per chip QTY 100:http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?qs=6ARB0lp6jlUH%2fsxf...http://www.luminarymicro.com/products/lm3s101.html > > $249.00 Development Kit:http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?qs=6ARB0lp6jlWcf9eiWJ...http://www.luminarymicro.com/products/development_kits.html > > $79.00 Daughter board:http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?qs=6ARB0lp6jlX7a0oGmO...http://www.luminarymicro.com/products/expansion_daughterboards.html > > -- > Guy Macon <http://www.GuyMacon.com/> Guy Macon <http://www.GuyMacon.com/> > Guy Macon <http://www.GuyMacon.com/> Guy Macon <http://www.GuyMacon.com/> > Guy Macon <http://www.GuyMacon.com/> Guy Macon <http://www.GuyMacon.com/> > Guy Macon <http://www.GuyMacon.com/> Guy Macon <http://www.GuyMacon.com/>
Reply by ●July 21, 20082008-07-21
Guy Macon wrote:> While researching something else, I ran into the > following rather interesting opinions:> Consolidating the MCU market around the ARM architecture > ("It's inevitable. ARM's Cortex-M3 processor core is going > dominate the MCU market.")<snip a Luminary party political broadcast> No sales numbers on their $1 device, which was rather a strange animal. Did anyone actually design that in ? Other things you may have missed : ** Microchip did NOT choose the M3, instead went for the MIPS core ** Atmel offers ARM7, ARM9, AVR32, (and has also licensed M3) ** Freescale have chosen to also pitch 'peripheral compatible' 8 bit and 32 bit Coldfire variants. They see that the core does not actually matter that much anymore..... ** ST and Freescale do NOT pitch the M3 into Automotive - instead they _have_ recently released a SECOND SOURCED family, based on the PowerPC core. Can you name any pin & peripheral compatible, second sourced M3 device ? ** Japanese suppliers, who are big in the 32 bit sector, tend to chose ARM only for ASIC ** Philips is calling their M3 family the LPC1000, suggests they expect the LPC2000 (ARM7) and LPC3000 (ARM9) to continue ** ARM9 devices are rolling now in large FLASH cores, faster than any M3 device. Conclusion: Yes the M3 is significant, but it is a _very_ long way from dominating the MCU market, it is not even close to dominating the 32bit MCU market. Of course, any such claim from Luminary's Chief Marketing Officer, is expected to be mostly marketdroid hyperbole :) -jg
Reply by ●July 21, 20082008-07-21
rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> writes:> Is this even news at this point??? Some two or three years ago I > pointed out that the ARM chips were getting cheaper and cheaper (at > that time around $2) commenting that there is getting to be no market > for the common 8 bit CPU. There were a couple who pointed out that > there are huge numbers of 8 bit devices used in the "invisible", mass > applications where even $0.01 makes a difference. Of course those apps > will always use 4 or 8 bit processors. > > But the trend has been pretty obvious for some time now. Mostly it > has been reported that the 16 bit parts are being skipped over > migrating from 8 directly to 32 bit. I have also seen predictions > that the 8 bit market will level off and start to decline although > keeping huge numbers. > > For designs that don't need to save every last penny, it really has > gotten to the point that the 8 and 16 bit parts have little need. > Maybe if power is the ultimate requirement a 32 bit part can't keep up > with an 8 bit part, but even there the newer processes that are being > used mostly with 32 bit parts are making them competitive in the > lowest power apps too. >[...] I suspect some devious google-ranking scheme :) -- John Devereux
Reply by ●July 21, 20082008-07-21
Guy Macon wrote:> While researching something else, I ran into the > following rather interesting opinions: > > Consolidating the MCU market around the ARM architecture > ("It's inevitable. ARM's Cortex-M3 processor core is going > dominate the MCU market.") > http://www.embedded.com/columns/guest/207001013 > > Luminary Micro Announces 32-bit Microcontrollers for $1.00 > -- First to Launch Products Based on the ARM Cortex M3 Processor > http://www.design-reuse.com/news/12919/luminary-micro-32-bit-microcontrollers-1-00-launch-products-arm-cortex-m3-processor.html > http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/03-27-2006/0004327081&EDATE= > > Rich feature set key in MCU market: > http://www.ciol.com/Semicon/Design-Trends/News-Reports/Rich-feature-set-key-in-MCU-market/10708107822/0/ > > $1.68 per chip QTY 100: > http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?qs=6ARB0lp6jlUH%2fsxfAjgajA%3d%3d > http://www.luminarymicro.com/products/lm3s101.html > > $249.00 Development Kit: > http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?qs=6ARB0lp6jlWcf9eiWJhtdw%3d%3d > http://www.luminarymicro.com/products/development_kits.html > > $79.00 Daughter board: > http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?qs=6ARB0lp6jlX7a0oGmOj3vA%3d%3d > http://www.luminarymicro.com/products/expansion_daughterboards.html >Log in just to get a datasheet? Yeah, right ... -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM.
Reply by ●July 21, 20082008-07-21
"Joerg" <notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote in message news:hm6hk.14945$xZ.2154@nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com...> Log in just to get a datasheet? Yeah, right ...Those marketing guys only want to have a deep, personal, meaningful relationship with you, Joerg, that will surely be mutually beneficial. :-)
Reply by ●July 21, 20082008-07-21
In comp.arch Joerg <notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote: (Luminary Micro's website)> Log in just to get a datasheet? Yeah, right ...If you just keep clicking on "I really really don't want to register, just shut up already" you'll get a download link without having to register. Annoying, but far preferable to those sites that actually do force you to register (I'm looking at you, ARM.) -a
Reply by ●July 21, 20082008-07-21
Anders.Montonen@kapsi.spam.stop.fi.invalid wrote:> In comp.arch Joerg <notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote: > (Luminary Micro's website) >> Log in just to get a datasheet? Yeah, right ... > > If you just keep clicking on "I really really don't want to register, > just shut up already" you'll get a download link without having to > register. Annoying, but far preferable to those sites that actually do > force you to register (I'm looking at you, ARM.) >Well, that might be, but I prefer manufacturers with a tad more professionalism. TI, Atmel, Microchip, Hitachi and so on. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM.
Reply by ●July 21, 20082008-07-21
Anders.Montonen@kapsi.spam.stop.fi.invalid wrote:> In comp.arch Joerg <notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote: > (Luminary Micro's website) >> Log in just to get a datasheet? Yeah, right ... > > If you just keep clicking on "I really really don't want to register, > just shut up already" you'll get a download link without having to > register. Annoying, but far preferable to those sites that actually do > force you to register (I'm looking at you, ARM.)Which is far preferable to the ones that make you register then promise to email you the datasheet and never do. (I'm looking at you, NXP)
Reply by ●July 21, 20082008-07-21
Jim Stewart wrote:> Anders.Montonen@kapsi.spam.stop.fi.invalid wrote: > >> In comp.arch Joerg <notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote: >> (Luminary Micro's website) >> >>> Log in just to get a datasheet? Yeah, right ... >> >> >> If you just keep clicking on "I really really don't want to register, >> just shut up already" you'll get a download link without having to >> register. Annoying, but far preferable to those sites that actually do >> force you to register (I'm looking at you, ARM.) > > > Which is far preferable to the ones that > make you register then promise to email > you the datasheet and never do. (I'm looking > at you, NXP)Which part of NXP does that ? I can download any PDF just fine - PDF access at NXP is good, it is the middle-ground, between the overview and detail, that NXP needs to work on! I did find they have a nice uC selector as 'clickable pdf', that I suggested they make more visible, and it is now at: http://www.nxp.com/acrobat/literature/9397/75016140.pdf With that, you can sidestep almost the entire web site ;) -jg
