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Just wondering if anyone has seen or tried one of the future electronics NIOS kits http://www.futureelectronics.com/promos/cyclone/ Any comments on these ? I've mostly only used xilinx so far. These look quite good for the price. For pretty looking dev kits there is always alteras demo http://www.shopaltera.com/category.asp?catalog%5Fname=ALC&category%5Fnameo+Tools&Page=1 says that it runs NIOS as well. Doesn't say exactly what is included. Also just spotted that webpack 6.3 will cover the 3S1000 and 3S1500 devices Alex Gibson |
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Nios board ?
Started by ●September 25, 2004
Reply by ●September 26, 20042004-09-26
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Apparently they (Future Electronics) have a $99 NIOS-II kit - they don't have a link so it can be ordered, just an advertisement. What they do have is the absolute worst web page on the Internet. Too bad, for $99 it is worth exploring the 32 bit soft CPU. Note, however, it probably doesn't come with source. At least the Altera offering at $149 doesn't say anything except executable. I am seriously in need of a 32 bit CPU core and opencores has been down all day - I'm not sure if they have anything I can use anyway. --- In , Alex Gibson <alxx@t...> wrote: > Just wondering if anyone has seen or tried one of the future electronics > NIOS kits > > http://www.futureelectronics.com/promos/cyclone/ > > Any comments on these ? > > I've mostly only used xilinx so far. > These look quite good for the price. > > For pretty looking dev kits there is always alteras demo > http://www.shopaltera.com/category.asp?catalog%5Fname=ALC&category% 5Fnameo+Tools&Page=1 > > says that it runs NIOS as well. > Doesn't say exactly what is included. > > Also just spotted that webpack 6.3 will cover the > 3S1000 and 3S1500 devices > > Alex Gibson |
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Reply by ●September 26, 20042004-09-26
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rtstofer wrote: >Apparently they (Future Electronics) have a $99 NIOS-II kit - they >don't have a link so it can be ordered, just an advertisement. > >What they do have is the absolute worst web page on the Internet. > >Too bad, for $99 it is worth exploring the 32 bit soft CPU. Note, >however, it probably doesn't come with source. At least the Altera >offering at $149 doesn't say anything except executable. > >I am seriously in need of a 32 bit CPU core and opencores has been >down all day - I'm not sure if they have anything I can use anyway. > use the opencores mirrors - there are a few * **opencores*.gds.tuwien.ac.at <http://opencores.gds.tuwien.ac.at>* - Location: Vienna University of Technology, Austria. Thanks to Antonin Sprinzl Antonin.Sprinzl@t... <http://www.opencores.org/forums.cgi/post?to90ecd918a5f07540a59c19fbbde34 * **opencores*.nnytech.net <http://opencores.nnytech.net>* - Location: New York, USA. Thanks to martin@n... <http://www.opencores.org/forums.cgi/post?toV7938bb911054909e6ee19b247f6db8 * *www.*opencores*.org.uk <http://www.opencores.org.uk>* - Location: United Kingdom. Thanks to mike.vogwell@n... <http://www.opencores.org/forums.cgi/post?toe643a4f37ca99a550215c8d4c46fc4 * **opencores*.urc.bl.ac.yu <http://opencores.urc.bl.ac.yu>* - Location: SARNET, University Computer Center, Banja Luka, Bosnia and Herzegovina, RS.Thanks to dsimic@u... <http://www.opencores.org/forums.cgi/post?to60d864c3d2901a16722be89268d54 * **opencores*.itb.ac.id <http://opencores.itb.ac.id>* - Location: INSTITUT TEKNOLOGI BANDUNG (ITB), Bandung, Indonesia. Thanks to ssarwono@v... <http://www.opencores.org/forums.cgi/post?toJe7cec03dd382e443fc79d86880a369 |
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Reply by ●September 26, 20042004-09-26
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Thanks for the links - I knew there were mirrors around but had no idea where. In any event, of the couple I tried, the mirror linked back to www.opencores.org for the file download. Bummer... No real hurry, I can wait a while. I haven't finished researching the instruction set requirements. What I would like to do is take Niklaus Wirth's Pascal P4 implementation for the CDC 6600 and reformulate it for a machine with a 32 bit word length. Then move the interpreter inside the FPGA (where applicable), build an OS and eventually wind up with a system somewhat like UCSD Pascal but much faster than the interpreters that ran on 8080s and Z80s. It could be faster than the CDC 6600 implementation just on the basis of 1 microsecond core versus 15 nanosecond SRAM. Probably the only place the 6600 could compare would be in floating point arithmetic - a feature I may leave out anyway, at least in Rev 0. Using a modern IDE drive compared to 8" floppies ought to be quite an upgrade! This is just an excercise, if I wanted to run Pascal I would just use the stuff in the GNU package under Linux. In fact, that is how I intend to bootstrap the compiler... --- In , Alex Gibson <alxx@t...> wrote: > rtstofer wrote: > > >Apparently they (Future Electronics) have a $99 NIOS-II kit - they > >don't have a link so it can be ordered, just an advertisement. > > > >What they do have is the absolute worst web page on the Internet. > > > >Too bad, for $99 it is worth exploring the 32 bit soft CPU. Note, > >however, it probably doesn't come with source. At least the Altera > >offering at $149 doesn't say anything except executable. > > > >I am seriously in need of a 32 bit CPU core and opencores has been > >down all day - I'm not sure if they have anything I can use anyway. > > > > > > > use the opencores mirrors - there are a few > > * **opencores*.gds.tuwien.ac.at <http://opencores.gds.tuwien.ac.at>* > - Location: Vienna University of Technology, Austria. Thanks to > Antonin Sprinzl Antonin.Sprinzl@t... > <http://www.opencores.org/forums.cgi/post? to90ecd918a5f07540a59c19fbbde34> > > > * **opencores*.nnytech.net <http://opencores.nnytech.net>* - > Location: New York, USA. Thanks to martin@n... > <http://www.opencores.org/forums.cgi/post? toV7938bb911054909e6ee19b247f6db8> > > > * *www.*opencores*.org.uk <http://www.opencores.org.uk>* - Location: > United Kingdom. Thanks to mike.vogwell@n... > <http://www.opencores.org/forums.cgi/post? toe643a4f37ca99a550215c8d4c46fc4> > > > * **opencores*.urc.bl.ac.yu <http://opencores.urc.bl.ac.yu>* - > Location: SARNET, University Computer Center, Banja Luka, Bosnia > and Herzegovina, RS.Thanks to dsimic@u... > <http://www.opencores.org/forums.cgi/post? to60d864c3d2901a16722be89268d54> > > > * **opencores*.itb.ac.id <http://opencores.itb.ac.id>* - Location: > INSTITUT TEKNOLOGI BANDUNG (ITB), Bandung, Indonesia. Thanks to > ssarwono@v... > <http://www.opencores.org/forums.cgi/post? toJe7cec03dd382e443fc79d86880a369 |
Reply by ●September 26, 20042004-09-26
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> For pretty looking dev kits there is always alteras demo > http://www.shopaltera.com/category.asp?catalog%5Fname=ALC&category%5Fname o+Tools&Page=1 > that looks funny :-) However, I expect there is no additional external memory on this board. So you are VERY limitted with your applications. I would suggest a board with additional external memory. A littel bit more expensive (about $250), but very nice for soft-core applcations like the NIOS: http://www.jopdesign.com/cyclone/index.jsp Martin |
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Reply by ●September 27, 20042004-09-27
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There is also the Spartan3E Starter kit for $99 from Xilinx. http://www.xilinx.com/xlnx/xebiz/board_detail.jsp?sGlobalNavPick=&sSecondaryNavPick=&category=-538081224&iLanguageID=1&key=DO-SPAR3-DK Gan Martin Schoeberl wrote: >>For pretty looking dev kits there is always alteras demo >> >> >> >http://www.shopaltera.com/category.asp?catalog%5Fname=ALC&category%5Fname >o+Tools&Page=1 >that looks funny :-) However, I expect there is no additional external >memory on this board. So you are VERY limitted with your applications. >I would suggest a board with additional external memory. A littel bit >more expensive (about $250), but very nice for soft-core applcations like >the NIOS: > >http://www.jopdesign.com/cyclone/index.jsp > >Martin > >To post a message, send it to: >To unsubscribe, send a blank message to: >Yahoo! Groups Links > > |
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Reply by ●September 27, 20042004-09-27
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Goran Bilski wrote: >There is also the Spartan3E Starter kit for $99 from Xilinx. >http://www.xilinx.com/xlnx/xebiz/board_detail.jsp?sGlobalNavPick=&sSecondaryNavPick=&category=-538081224&iLanguageID=1&key=DO-SPAR3-DK > >Gan > I already have one. Just looking around for a similar sized altera board with similar features but there is nothing as cheap. Had a look at Martins board before. Nice but to pricey. I should get off my butt and make my own board but don't have the time at the moment. Alex |
