Hello,
Does anybody in this group own a LPC2138 board from Olimex? I want to try
out the sample examples
presented on their website and I cant seem to find the required header
files. If anyone has a simple
working code for LED blinking, I would be thankful if i could get the source
with the required header
files.
-thanks
-Pavan
__________________________________________________
Olimex LPC2138
Started by ●November 1, 2007
Reply by ●November 1, 20072007-11-01
--- In l..., Pavan Kandepet wrote:
>
> Hello,
> Does anybody in this group own a LPC2138 board from Olimex? I
want to try out the sample examples
> presented on their website and I cant seem to find the required
header files. If anyone has a simple
> working code for LED blinking, I would be thankful if i could
get the source with the required header
> files.
Here is the LPC-P2138 board:
http://www.olimex.com/dev/lpc-p2138.html
Here is the LED code:
http://www.olimex.com/dev/soft/arm/LPC/LPC-P2138-buttons_leds.zip
Here is a google search for "iolpc2138.h":
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=iolpc2138.h&btnG=Google+Search&meta
The response seems to indicate that the header file in question is
provided by IAR.
Here is a link to IAR:
http://www.iar.com/
Here is a link to the IAR kit:
http://www.iar.com/index.php?show5390_ENG&&page_anchor=http://www.iar.com/p35390/p35390_eng.php
Here is a link to the "KickStart version of IAR Embedded Workbench for
ARM":
http://supp.iar.com/Download/SW/?item=EWARM-KS32
You need to register and download it yerself... ;)
Hope this helps.
>
> Hello,
> Does anybody in this group own a LPC2138 board from Olimex? I
want to try out the sample examples
> presented on their website and I cant seem to find the required
header files. If anyone has a simple
> working code for LED blinking, I would be thankful if i could
get the source with the required header
> files.
Here is the LPC-P2138 board:
http://www.olimex.com/dev/lpc-p2138.html
Here is the LED code:
http://www.olimex.com/dev/soft/arm/LPC/LPC-P2138-buttons_leds.zip
Here is a google search for "iolpc2138.h":
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=iolpc2138.h&btnG=Google+Search&meta
The response seems to indicate that the header file in question is
provided by IAR.
Here is a link to IAR:
http://www.iar.com/
Here is a link to the IAR kit:
http://www.iar.com/index.php?show5390_ENG&&page_anchor=http://www.iar.com/p35390/p35390_eng.php
Here is a link to the "KickStart version of IAR Embedded Workbench for
ARM":
http://supp.iar.com/Download/SW/?item=EWARM-KS32
You need to register and download it yerself... ;)
Hope this helps.
Reply by ●November 1, 20072007-11-01
Thanks for the info.
-Pavan
----- Original Message ----
From: Bue Jensen
To: l...
Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2007 2:06:50 AM
Subject: [lpc2000] Re: Olimex LPC2138
--- In lpc2000@yahoogroups .com, Pavan Kandepet wrote:
>
> Hello,
> Does anybody in this group own a LPC2138 board from Olimex? I
want to try out the sample examples
> presented on their website and I cant seem to find the required
header files. If anyone has a simple
> working code for LED blinking, I would be thankful if i could
get the source with the required header
> files.
Here is the LPC-P2138 board:
http://www.olimex. com/dev/lpc- p2138.html
Here is the LED code:
http://www.olimex. com/dev/soft/ arm/LPC/LPC- P2138-buttons_ leds.zip
Here is a google search for "iolpc2138.h" :
http://www.google. com/search? hl=en&q=iolpc213 8.h&btnG= Google+Search& meta
The response seems to indicate that the header file in question is
provided by IAR.
Here is a link to IAR:
http://www.iar. com/
Here is a link to the IAR kit:
http://www.iar. com/index. php?show= 35390_ENG& &page_anchor= http://www. iar.com/p35390/ p35390_eng. php
Here is a link to the "KickStart version of IAR Embedded Workbench for
ARM":
http://supp. iar.com/Download /SW/?item= EWARM-KS32
You need to register and download it yerself... ;)
Hope this helps.
__________________________________________________
-Pavan
----- Original Message ----
From: Bue Jensen
To: l...
Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2007 2:06:50 AM
Subject: [lpc2000] Re: Olimex LPC2138
--- In lpc2000@yahoogroups .com, Pavan Kandepet wrote:
>
> Hello,
> Does anybody in this group own a LPC2138 board from Olimex? I
want to try out the sample examples
> presented on their website and I cant seem to find the required
header files. If anyone has a simple
> working code for LED blinking, I would be thankful if i could
get the source with the required header
> files.
Here is the LPC-P2138 board:
http://www.olimex. com/dev/lpc- p2138.html
Here is the LED code:
http://www.olimex. com/dev/soft/ arm/LPC/LPC- P2138-buttons_ leds.zip
Here is a google search for "iolpc2138.h" :
http://www.google. com/search? hl=en&q=iolpc213 8.h&btnG= Google+Search& meta
The response seems to indicate that the header file in question is
provided by IAR.
Here is a link to IAR:
http://www.iar. com/
Here is a link to the IAR kit:
http://www.iar. com/index. php?show= 35390_ENG& &page_anchor= http://www. iar.com/p35390/ p35390_eng. php
Here is a link to the "KickStart version of IAR Embedded Workbench for
ARM":
http://supp. iar.com/Download /SW/?item= EWARM-KS32
You need to register and download it yerself... ;)
Hope this helps.
__________________________________________________
Reply by ●November 1, 20072007-11-01
may be next week you will se the Photos of my board
----- Original Message ----
From: Rahul Gaikwad
To: l...
Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2007 6:11:38 PM
Subject: Re: [lpc2000] Re: Olimex LPC2138
dear Pavan,
i have developed my own board some what similar to LPC2138. i have tried out some examples and the board is running in good condition
instead of 32.768 for RTC my board have an option of using DS32Khz IC from MAXIM . It is a temperature compensated high accuracy clock generator chip . may be the baord is better than Olimex
regards,
rahul gaikwad
EG_LOGIC
nashik
9373906971
----- Original Message ----
From: Pavan Kandepet
To: lpc2000@yahoogroups .com
Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2007 3:28:44 PM
Subject: Re: [lpc2000] Re: Olimex LPC2138
Thanks for the info.
-Pavan
----- Original Message ----
From: Bue Jensen
To: lpc2000@yahoogroups .com
Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2007 2:06:50 AM
Subject: [lpc2000] Re: Olimex LPC2138
--- In lpc2000@yahoogroups .com, Pavan Kandepet wrote:
>
> Hello,
> Does anybody in this group own a LPC2138 board from Olimex? I
want to try out the sample examples
> presented on their website and I cant seem to find the required
header files. If anyone has a simple
> working code for LED blinking, I would be thankful if i could
get the source with the required header
> files.
Here is the LPC-P2138 board:
http://www.olimex. com/dev/lpc- p2138.html
Here is the LED code:
http://www.olimex. com/dev/soft/ arm/LPC/LPC- P2138-buttons_ leds.zip
Here is a google search for "iolpc2138.h" :
http://www.google. com/search? hl=en&q=iolpc213 8.h&btnG= Google+Search& meta
The response seems to indicate that the header file in question is
provided by IAR.
Here is a link to IAR:
http://www.iar. com/
Here is a link to the IAR kit:
http://www.iar. com/index. php?show= 35390_ENG& &page_anchor= http://www. iar.com/p35390/ p35390_eng. php
Here is a link to the "KickStart version of IAR Embedded Workbench for
ARM":
http://supp. iar.com/Download /SW/?item= EWARM-KS32
You need to register and download it yerself... ;)
Hope this helps.
____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __
----- Original Message ----
From: Rahul Gaikwad
To: l...
Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2007 6:11:38 PM
Subject: Re: [lpc2000] Re: Olimex LPC2138
dear Pavan,
i have developed my own board some what similar to LPC2138. i have tried out some examples and the board is running in good condition
instead of 32.768 for RTC my board have an option of using DS32Khz IC from MAXIM . It is a temperature compensated high accuracy clock generator chip . may be the baord is better than Olimex
regards,
rahul gaikwad
EG_LOGIC
nashik
9373906971
----- Original Message ----
From: Pavan Kandepet
To: lpc2000@yahoogroups .com
Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2007 3:28:44 PM
Subject: Re: [lpc2000] Re: Olimex LPC2138
Thanks for the info.
-Pavan
----- Original Message ----
From: Bue Jensen
To: lpc2000@yahoogroups .com
Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2007 2:06:50 AM
Subject: [lpc2000] Re: Olimex LPC2138
--- In lpc2000@yahoogroups .com, Pavan Kandepet wrote:
>
> Hello,
> Does anybody in this group own a LPC2138 board from Olimex? I
want to try out the sample examples
> presented on their website and I cant seem to find the required
header files. If anyone has a simple
> working code for LED blinking, I would be thankful if i could
get the source with the required header
> files.
Here is the LPC-P2138 board:
http://www.olimex. com/dev/lpc- p2138.html
Here is the LED code:
http://www.olimex. com/dev/soft/ arm/LPC/LPC- P2138-buttons_ leds.zip
Here is a google search for "iolpc2138.h" :
http://www.google. com/search? hl=en&q=iolpc213 8.h&btnG= Google+Search& meta
The response seems to indicate that the header file in question is
provided by IAR.
Here is a link to IAR:
http://www.iar. com/
Here is a link to the IAR kit:
http://www.iar. com/index. php?show= 35390_ENG& &page_anchor= http://www. iar.com/p35390/ p35390_eng. php
Here is a link to the "KickStart version of IAR Embedded Workbench for
ARM":
http://supp. iar.com/Download /SW/?item= EWARM-KS32
You need to register and download it yerself... ;)
Hope this helps.
____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __
Reply by ●November 1, 20072007-11-01
dear Pavan,
i have developed my own board some what similar to LPC2138. i have tried out some examples and the board is running in good condition
instead of 32.768 for RTC my board have an option of using DS32Khz IC from MAXIM . It is a temperature compensated high accuracy clock generator chip . may be the baord is better than Olimex
regards,
rahul gaikwad
EG_LOGIC
nashik
9373906971
----- Original Message ----
From: Pavan Kandepet
To: l...
Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2007 3:28:44 PM
Subject: Re: [lpc2000] Re: Olimex LPC2138
Thanks for the info.
-Pavan
----- Original Message ----
From: Bue Jensen
To: lpc2000@yahoogroups .com
Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2007 2:06:50 AM
Subject: [lpc2000] Re: Olimex LPC2138
--- In lpc2000@yahoogroups .com, Pavan Kandepet wrote:
>
> Hello,
> Does anybody in this group own a LPC2138 board from Olimex? I
want to try out the sample examples
> presented on their website and I cant seem to find the required
header files. If anyone has a simple
> working code for LED blinking, I would be thankful if i could
get the source with the required header
> files.
Here is the LPC-P2138 board:
http://www.olimex. com/dev/lpc- p2138.html
Here is the LED code:
http://www.olimex. com/dev/soft/ arm/LPC/LPC- P2138-buttons_ leds.zip
Here is a google search for "iolpc2138.h" :
http://www.google. com/search? hl=en&q=iolpc213 8.h&btnG= Google+Search& meta
The response seems to indicate that the header file in question is
provided by IAR.
Here is a link to IAR:
http://www.iar. com/
Here is a link to the IAR kit:
http://www.iar. com/index. php?show= 35390_ENG& &page_anchor= http://www. iar.com/p35390/ p35390_eng. php
Here is a link to the "KickStart version of IAR Embedded Workbench for
ARM":
http://supp. iar.com/Download /SW/?item= EWARM-KS32
You need to register and download it yerself... ;)
Hope this helps.
____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __
i have developed my own board some what similar to LPC2138. i have tried out some examples and the board is running in good condition
instead of 32.768 for RTC my board have an option of using DS32Khz IC from MAXIM . It is a temperature compensated high accuracy clock generator chip . may be the baord is better than Olimex
regards,
rahul gaikwad
EG_LOGIC
nashik
9373906971
----- Original Message ----
From: Pavan Kandepet
To: l...
Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2007 3:28:44 PM
Subject: Re: [lpc2000] Re: Olimex LPC2138
Thanks for the info.
-Pavan
----- Original Message ----
From: Bue Jensen
To: lpc2000@yahoogroups .com
Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2007 2:06:50 AM
Subject: [lpc2000] Re: Olimex LPC2138
--- In lpc2000@yahoogroups .com, Pavan Kandepet wrote:
>
> Hello,
> Does anybody in this group own a LPC2138 board from Olimex? I
want to try out the sample examples
> presented on their website and I cant seem to find the required
header files. If anyone has a simple
> working code for LED blinking, I would be thankful if i could
get the source with the required header
> files.
Here is the LPC-P2138 board:
http://www.olimex. com/dev/lpc- p2138.html
Here is the LED code:
http://www.olimex. com/dev/soft/ arm/LPC/LPC- P2138-buttons_ leds.zip
Here is a google search for "iolpc2138.h" :
http://www.google. com/search? hl=en&q=iolpc213 8.h&btnG= Google+Search& meta
The response seems to indicate that the header file in question is
provided by IAR.
Here is a link to IAR:
http://www.iar. com/
Here is a link to the IAR kit:
http://www.iar. com/index. php?show= 35390_ENG& &page_anchor= http://www. iar.com/p35390/ p35390_eng. php
Here is a link to the "KickStart version of IAR Embedded Workbench for
ARM":
http://supp. iar.com/Download /SW/?item= EWARM-KS32
You need to register and download it yerself... ;)
Hope this helps.
____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __
Reply by ●November 1, 20072007-11-01
Hi,
I have purchased a board from Olimex and I was very
disappointed by the fact that it did not even come
with a CD or evaluation software.
I don't know if that common practice from Olimex but I
will not buy any development board from Olimex any
longer.
Kolemale
--- Rahul Gaikwad wrote:
> may be next week you will se the Photos of my board
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Rahul Gaikwad
> To: l...
> Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2007 6:11:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [lpc2000] Re: Olimex LPC2138
>
> dear Pavan,
> i have developed my own board some what similar to
> LPC2138. i have tried out some examples and the
> board is running in good condition
> instead of 32.768 for RTC my board have an option of
> using DS32Khz IC from MAXIM . It is a temperature
> compensated high accuracy clock generator chip . may
> be the baord is better than Olimex
>
> regards,
> rahul gaikwad
> EG_LOGIC
> nashik
> 9373906971
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Pavan Kandepet
> To: lpc2000@yahoogroups .com
> Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2007 3:28:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [lpc2000] Re: Olimex LPC2138
>
> Thanks for the info.
> -Pavan
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Bue Jensen
> To: lpc2000@yahoogroups .com
> Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2007 2:06:50 AM
> Subject: [lpc2000] Re: Olimex LPC2138
>
> --- In lpc2000@yahoogroups .com, Pavan Kandepet
> wrote:
>
> > > Hello,
>
> > Does anybody in this group own a LPC2138 board
> from Olimex? I
>
> want to try out the sample examples
>
> > presented on their website and I cant seem to find
> the required
>
> header files. If anyone has a simple
>
> > working code for LED blinking, I would be thankful
> if i could
>
> get the source with the required header
>
> > files.
>
> Here is the LPC-P2138 board:
>
> http://www.olimex. com/dev/lpc- p2138.html
>
> Here is the LED code:
>
> http://www.olimex. com/dev/soft/ arm/LPC/LPC-
> P2138-buttons_ leds.zip
>
> Here is a google search for "iolpc2138.h" :
>
> http://www.google. com/search? hl=en&q=iolpc213
> 8.h&btnG= Google+Search& meta
>
> The response seems to indicate that the header file
> in question is
>
> provided by IAR.
>
> Here is a link to IAR:
>
> http://www.iar. com/
>
> Here is a link to the IAR kit:
>
> http://www.iar. com/index. php?show= 35390_ENG&
> &page_anchor= http://www. iar.com/p35390/
> p35390_eng. php
>
> Here is a link to the "KickStart version of IAR
> Embedded Workbench for
>
> ARM":
>
> http://supp. iar.com/Download /SW/?item= EWARM-KS32
>
> You need to register and download it yerself... ;)
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________
> __
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Philip Zatta
Irvine, CA 92612
Cell: 949-500-5921
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
__________________________________________________
I have purchased a board from Olimex and I was very
disappointed by the fact that it did not even come
with a CD or evaluation software.
I don't know if that common practice from Olimex but I
will not buy any development board from Olimex any
longer.
Kolemale
--- Rahul Gaikwad wrote:
> may be next week you will se the Photos of my board
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Rahul Gaikwad
> To: l...
> Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2007 6:11:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [lpc2000] Re: Olimex LPC2138
>
> dear Pavan,
> i have developed my own board some what similar to
> LPC2138. i have tried out some examples and the
> board is running in good condition
> instead of 32.768 for RTC my board have an option of
> using DS32Khz IC from MAXIM . It is a temperature
> compensated high accuracy clock generator chip . may
> be the baord is better than Olimex
>
> regards,
> rahul gaikwad
> EG_LOGIC
> nashik
> 9373906971
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Pavan Kandepet
> To: lpc2000@yahoogroups .com
> Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2007 3:28:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [lpc2000] Re: Olimex LPC2138
>
> Thanks for the info.
> -Pavan
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Bue Jensen
> To: lpc2000@yahoogroups .com
> Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2007 2:06:50 AM
> Subject: [lpc2000] Re: Olimex LPC2138
>
> --- In lpc2000@yahoogroups .com, Pavan Kandepet
> wrote:
>
> > > Hello,
>
> > Does anybody in this group own a LPC2138 board
> from Olimex? I
>
> want to try out the sample examples
>
> > presented on their website and I cant seem to find
> the required
>
> header files. If anyone has a simple
>
> > working code for LED blinking, I would be thankful
> if i could
>
> get the source with the required header
>
> > files.
>
> Here is the LPC-P2138 board:
>
> http://www.olimex. com/dev/lpc- p2138.html
>
> Here is the LED code:
>
> http://www.olimex. com/dev/soft/ arm/LPC/LPC-
> P2138-buttons_ leds.zip
>
> Here is a google search for "iolpc2138.h" :
>
> http://www.google. com/search? hl=en&q=iolpc213
> 8.h&btnG= Google+Search& meta
>
> The response seems to indicate that the header file
> in question is
>
> provided by IAR.
>
> Here is a link to IAR:
>
> http://www.iar. com/
>
> Here is a link to the IAR kit:
>
> http://www.iar. com/index. php?show= 35390_ENG&
> &page_anchor= http://www. iar.com/p35390/
> p35390_eng. php
>
> Here is a link to the "KickStart version of IAR
> Embedded Workbench for
>
> ARM":
>
> http://supp. iar.com/Download /SW/?item= EWARM-KS32
>
> You need to register and download it yerself... ;)
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________
> __
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Philip Zatta
Irvine, CA 92612
Cell: 949-500-5921
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
__________________________________________________
Reply by ●November 1, 20072007-11-01
----- Original Message -----
From: "Philippe Zatta"
To:
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 3:16 PM
Subject: Re: [lpc2000] Re: Olimex LPC2138-Bad experience with Olimex Boards
> Hi,
> I have purchased a board from Olimex and I was very
> disappointed by the fact that it did not even come
> with a CD or evaluation software.
> I don't know if that common practice from Olimex but I
> will not buy any development board from Olimex any
> longer.
You have to download the software from their web site, it's the same with
all their boards.
Leon
--
Leon Heller
Amateur radio call-sign G1HSM
Yaesu FT-817ND and FT-857D transceivers
Suzuki SV1000S motorcycle
l...@btinternet.com
http://webspace.webring.com/people/jl/leon_heller/
From: "Philippe Zatta"
To:
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 3:16 PM
Subject: Re: [lpc2000] Re: Olimex LPC2138-Bad experience with Olimex Boards
> Hi,
> I have purchased a board from Olimex and I was very
> disappointed by the fact that it did not even come
> with a CD or evaluation software.
> I don't know if that common practice from Olimex but I
> will not buy any development board from Olimex any
> longer.
You have to download the software from their web site, it's the same with
all their boards.
Leon
--
Leon Heller
Amateur radio call-sign G1HSM
Yaesu FT-817ND and FT-857D transceivers
Suzuki SV1000S motorcycle
l...@btinternet.com
http://webspace.webring.com/people/jl/leon_heller/
Reply by ●November 1, 20072007-11-01
> I will not buy any development board
> from Olimex any longer.
That's of course your good right, anyway, but FMI: did they in any way
make you believe you would get more than just the board?
Wouter van Ooijen
-- -------
Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl
consultancy, development, PICmicro products
docent Hogeschool van Utrecht: www.voti.nl/hvu
> from Olimex any longer.
That's of course your good right, anyway, but FMI: did they in any way
make you believe you would get more than just the board?
Wouter van Ooijen
-- -------
Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl
consultancy, development, PICmicro products
docent Hogeschool van Utrecht: www.voti.nl/hvu
Reply by ●November 1, 20072007-11-01
With just a little bit of tweaking around, i was able to get the
blinky program working. I'm just a little disappointed that Olimex
should have atleast provided the required headers in their sample
programs.
-Pavan
----- Original Message ----
From: derbaier
To: l...
Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2007 9:23:06 AM
Subject: [lpc2000] Re: Olimex LPC2138-Bad experience with Olimex Boards
--- In lpc2000@yahoogroups .com, Philippe Zatta wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I have purchased a board from Olimex and I was very
> disappointed by the fact that it did not even come
> with a CD or evaluation software.
> I don't know if that common practice from Olimex but I
> will not buy any development board from Olimex any
> longer.
> Kolemale
>
That is, of course, your choice and your loss, since they make good
hardware at a reasonable cost. If you look at their web site you can
see that the stuff you wanted is available for free download.
--Dave
__________________________________________________
blinky program working. I'm just a little disappointed that Olimex
should have atleast provided the required headers in their sample
programs.
-Pavan
----- Original Message ----
From: derbaier
To: l...
Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2007 9:23:06 AM
Subject: [lpc2000] Re: Olimex LPC2138-Bad experience with Olimex Boards
--- In lpc2000@yahoogroups .com, Philippe Zatta wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I have purchased a board from Olimex and I was very
> disappointed by the fact that it did not even come
> with a CD or evaluation software.
> I don't know if that common practice from Olimex but I
> will not buy any development board from Olimex any
> longer.
> Kolemale
>
That is, of course, your choice and your loss, since they make good
hardware at a reasonable cost. If you look at their web site you can
see that the stuff you wanted is available for free download.
--Dave
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Reply by ●November 1, 20072007-11-01
--- In l..., Philippe Zatta wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I have purchased a board from Olimex and I was very
> disappointed by the fact that it did not even come
> with a CD or evaluation software.
> I don't know if that common practice from Olimex but I
> will not buy any development board from Olimex any
> longer.
> Kolemale
>
That is, of course, your choice and your loss, since they make good
hardware at a reasonable cost. If you look at their web site you can
see that the stuff you wanted is available for free download.
--Dave
>
> Hi,
> I have purchased a board from Olimex and I was very
> disappointed by the fact that it did not even come
> with a CD or evaluation software.
> I don't know if that common practice from Olimex but I
> will not buy any development board from Olimex any
> longer.
> Kolemale
>
That is, of course, your choice and your loss, since they make good
hardware at a reasonable cost. If you look at their web site you can
see that the stuff you wanted is available for free download.
--Dave