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Started by acetoel November 7, 2004

Hello...
I'm makign my own board for LPC. May I used a Max232 instead of the
MAX3232 that everybody use? I'm taking in consideration that LPC
I/O's are 5V tolerant...
Thanks
Ezequiel




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acetoel wrote:

>Hello...
>I'm makign my own board for LPC. May I used a Max232 instead of the
>MAX3232 that everybody use? I'm taking in consideration that LPC
>I/O's are 5V tolerant...
>Thanks
>Ezequiel >
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links >
>
Yes you can but this means that you need also a +5V power supply. My
idea is to have only one supply for cpu, memory and i/o because LPC i/o
is +5V tolerant, I may use this scheme.




>From: "acetoel" <>
>Reply-To:
>To:
>Subject: [lpc2000] MAX3232 and MAX232
>Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2004 16:50:26 -0000 >
>Hello...
>I'm makign my own board for LPC. May I used a Max232 instead of the
>MAX3232 that everybody use? I'm taking in consideration that LPC
>I/O's are 5V tolerant...


I've had a MAX202 working OK at 3.3V, so a MAX232 will probably be OK. The
MAX3232 would be best, if you can get one, as it will be within its spec.

Leon



>> I've had a MAX202 working OK at 3.3V, so a MAX232 will probably be OK. The
MAX3232 would be best, if you can get one, as it will be within its spec. <<

Also, the 3V parts aren't difficult to get hold of (at least not in the UK)
and there are quite a few people making drop in equivalents. Intersil and ST
do them to name two off the top of my head. Unless you have a big stash of 5V
parts you need to use up, you really would be best off using the 3V part.



Leon Heller wrote:

>
>
>>From: "acetoel" <>
>>Reply-To:
>>To:
>>Subject: [lpc2000] MAX3232 and MAX232
>>Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2004 16:50:26 -0000
>>
>>
>>
>>Hello...
>>I'm makign my own board for LPC. May I used a Max232 instead of the
>>MAX3232 that everybody use? I'm taking in consideration that LPC
>>I/O's are 5V tolerant...
>>
> >I've had a MAX202 working OK at 3.3V, so a MAX232 will probably be OK. The
>MAX3232 would be best, if you can get one, as it will be within its spec.
>
>Leon >
>Yahoo! Groups Links >
>
MAX232 and MAX202 may work but RS232 voltage levels (and currents)
aren't guaranteed so it is not design a board using MAX202 and MAX232 to
work at a nominal level under +5V. You have to read carefully datasheet
and see output voltage swing in function of Vcc and you may see that may
drop down to 4.5V that is a very bad value.



Take a look at TI cross. They are much cheaper, widely available.
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Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 9:18 AM
To:
Subject: Re: [lpc2000] MAX3232 and MAX232
Leon Heller wrote:

>
>
>>From: "acetoel" <>
>>Reply-To:
>>To:
>>Subject: [lpc2000] MAX3232 and MAX232
>>Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2004 16:50:26 -0000
>>
>>
>>
>>Hello...
>>I'm makign my own board for LPC. May I used a Max232 instead of the
>>MAX3232 that everybody use? I'm taking in consideration that LPC
>>I/O's are 5V tolerant...
>>
> >I've had a MAX202 working OK at 3.3V, so a MAX232 will probably be OK. The
>MAX3232 would be best, if you can get one, as it will be within its spec.
>
>Leon >
>> Terms of Service.



I tried once to use the TI MAX232 at a lower voltage, and it did not
work under approx 4 volts.

> Take a look at TI cross. They are much cheaper, widely available.
>






--- In , Paul Stoffregen <Paul@P...> wrote:
> I tried once to use the TI MAX232 at a lower voltage, and it did
not
> work under approx 4 volts.
>
> > Take a look at TI cross. They are much cheaper, widely available.
> >

Hello... I cannot find any supplier in argentina for this MAX
version. In fact, I think I'm the only LPC user in
Argentina...jajaja... Well, I'll se....perhaps I'll make a Level
shifter with transistors....

Thanks
Ezequiel




At 08:01 AM 11/8/04 -0800, you wrote:

>I tried once to use the TI MAX232 at a lower voltage, and it did not
>work under approx 4 volts.
>
> > Take a look at TI cross. They are much cheaper, widely available.
> >

On the other hand the TI MAX3238 is rated to 3.3 V and is in my experience
both cheaper and more readily available.

Robert

" 'Freedom' has no meaning of itself. There are always restrictions,
be they legal, genetic, or physical. If you don't believe me, try to
chew a radio signal. "

Kelvin Throop, III


TI makes a 3V part. I have some good success with it - about $1. Uses .1 or
1uf chip caps, which are cheap. Available from Digikey.
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From: acetoel [mailto:]
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 3:14 PM
To:
Subject: [lpc2000] Re: MAX3232 and MAX232

--- In , Paul Stoffregen <Paul@P...> wrote:
> I tried once to use the TI MAX232 at a lower voltage, and it did
not
> work under approx 4 volts.
>
> > Take a look at TI cross. They are much cheaper, widely available.
> >

Hello... I cannot find any supplier in argentina for this MAX
version. In fact, I think I'm the only LPC user in
Argentina...jajaja... Well, I'll se....perhaps I'll make a Level
shifter with transistors....

Thanks
Ezequiel

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