On 23/05/2011 16:22, warm38spl wrote:
> I've only used Rowley JTAG, Amontec JTAG, and
now I have the Segger J-link (not yet used it).
>
> Wiggler? URL?
http://www.macraigor.com/wiggler.htm
Leon
--
Leon Heller
G1HSM
LPC210x JTAG
Started by ●May 21, 2011
Reply by ●May 23, 20112011-05-23
Reply by ●May 23, 20112011-05-23
oh cuss. My laptop doesn't have a parallel port.
But thanks for the info.
--- In l..., Leon Heller wrote:
>
> On 23/05/2011 16:22, warm38spl wrote:
> > I've only used Rowley JTAG, Amontec JTAG, and now I have the Segger J-link (not yet used it).
> >
> > Wiggler? URL?
> http://www.macraigor.com/wiggler.htm
>
> Leon
> --
> Leon Heller
> G1HSM
>
But thanks for the info.
--- In l..., Leon Heller wrote:
>
> On 23/05/2011 16:22, warm38spl wrote:
> > I've only used Rowley JTAG, Amontec JTAG, and now I have the Segger J-link (not yet used it).
> >
> > Wiggler? URL?
> http://www.macraigor.com/wiggler.htm
>
> Leon
> --
> Leon Heller
> G1HSM
>
Reply by ●May 24, 20112011-05-24
This should help:
http://www.olimex.com/dev/arm-usb-ocd-h.html
http://www.olimex.com/dev/arm-usb-ocd.html
I have not used these, so YMMV.
Maybe Leon knows about these.
don
--- In l..., "warm38spl" wrote:
>
> oh cuss. My laptop doesn't have a parallel port.
>
> But thanks for the info.
>
> --- In l..., Leon Heller wrote:
> >
> > On 23/05/2011 16:22, warm38spl wrote:
> > > I've only used Rowley JTAG, Amontec JTAG, and now I have the Segger J-link (not yet used it).
> > >
> > > Wiggler? URL?
> >
> >
> > http://www.macraigor.com/wiggler.htm
> >
> > Leon
> > --
> > Leon Heller
> > G1HSM
>
http://www.olimex.com/dev/arm-usb-ocd-h.html
http://www.olimex.com/dev/arm-usb-ocd.html
I have not used these, so YMMV.
Maybe Leon knows about these.
don
--- In l..., "warm38spl" wrote:
>
> oh cuss. My laptop doesn't have a parallel port.
>
> But thanks for the info.
>
> --- In l..., Leon Heller wrote:
> >
> > On 23/05/2011 16:22, warm38spl wrote:
> > > I've only used Rowley JTAG, Amontec JTAG, and now I have the Segger J-link (not yet used it).
> > >
> > > Wiggler? URL?
> >
> >
> > http://www.macraigor.com/wiggler.htm
> >
> > Leon
> > --
> > Leon Heller
> > G1HSM
>
Reply by ●May 24, 20112011-05-24
I also wondered why the heck is this $150?
--- In l..., Leon Heller wrote:
>
> On 23/05/2011 16:22, warm38spl wrote:
> > I've only used Rowley JTAG, Amontec JTAG, and now I have the Segger J-link (not yet used it).
> >
> > Wiggler? URL?
> http://www.macraigor.com/wiggler.htm
>
> Leon
> --
> Leon Heller
> G1HSM
>
--- In l..., Leon Heller wrote:
>
> On 23/05/2011 16:22, warm38spl wrote:
> > I've only used Rowley JTAG, Amontec JTAG, and now I have the Segger J-link (not yet used it).
> >
> > Wiggler? URL?
> http://www.macraigor.com/wiggler.htm
>
> Leon
> --
> Leon Heller
> G1HSM
>
Reply by ●May 24, 20112011-05-24
Because that's the price they set for it?
--
Paul Curtis, Rowley Associates Ltd http://www.rowley.co.uk
SolderCore arriving Summer 2011! http://www.soldercore.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: l... [mailto:l...] On
> Behalf Of Jason
> Sent: 24 May 2011 13:21
> To: l...
> Subject: [lpc2000] Re: LPC210x JTAG
>
> I also wondered why the heck is this $150?
>
> --- In l..., Leon Heller wrote:
> >
> > On 23/05/2011 16:22, warm38spl wrote:
> > > I've only used Rowley JTAG, Amontec JTAG, and now I have the Segger
> J-link (not yet used it).
> > >
> > > Wiggler? URL?
> >
> >
> > http://www.macraigor.com/wiggler.htm
> >
> > Leon
> > --
> > Leon Heller
> > G1HSM
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
--
Paul Curtis, Rowley Associates Ltd http://www.rowley.co.uk
SolderCore arriving Summer 2011! http://www.soldercore.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: l... [mailto:l...] On
> Behalf Of Jason
> Sent: 24 May 2011 13:21
> To: l...
> Subject: [lpc2000] Re: LPC210x JTAG
>
> I also wondered why the heck is this $150?
>
> --- In l..., Leon Heller wrote:
> >
> > On 23/05/2011 16:22, warm38spl wrote:
> > > I've only used Rowley JTAG, Amontec JTAG, and now I have the Segger
> J-link (not yet used it).
> > >
> > > Wiggler? URL?
> >
> >
> > http://www.macraigor.com/wiggler.htm
> >
> > Leon
> > --
> > Leon Heller
> > G1HSM
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Reply by ●May 24, 20112011-05-24
but i dont consider its worth that price. its my opinion but look at the
facts... its slower and doesnt work on linux... most USB tools are faster and do
work on linux and can be had for about 1/3 of the price...
--- In l..., "Paul Curtis" wrote:
>
> Because that's the price they set for it?
>
> --
> Paul Curtis, Rowley Associates Ltd http://www.rowley.co.uk
> SolderCore arriving Summer 2011! http://www.soldercore.com
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: l... [mailto:l...] On
> > Behalf Of Jason
> > Sent: 24 May 2011 13:21
> > To: l...
> > Subject: [lpc2000] Re: LPC210x JTAG
> >
> > I also wondered why the heck is this $150?
> >
> > --- In l..., Leon Heller wrote:
> > >
> > > On 23/05/2011 16:22, warm38spl wrote:
> > > > I've only used Rowley JTAG, Amontec JTAG, and now I have the Segger
> > J-link (not yet used it).
> > > >
> > > > Wiggler? URL?
> > >
> > >
> > > http://www.macraigor.com/wiggler.htm
> > >
> > > Leon
> > > --
> > > Leon Heller
> > > G1HSM
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
--- In l..., "Paul Curtis" wrote:
>
> Because that's the price they set for it?
>
> --
> Paul Curtis, Rowley Associates Ltd http://www.rowley.co.uk
> SolderCore arriving Summer 2011! http://www.soldercore.com
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: l... [mailto:l...] On
> > Behalf Of Jason
> > Sent: 24 May 2011 13:21
> > To: l...
> > Subject: [lpc2000] Re: LPC210x JTAG
> >
> > I also wondered why the heck is this $150?
> >
> > --- In l..., Leon Heller wrote:
> > >
> > > On 23/05/2011 16:22, warm38spl wrote:
> > > > I've only used Rowley JTAG, Amontec JTAG, and now I have the Segger
> > J-link (not yet used it).
> > > >
> > > > Wiggler? URL?
> > >
> > >
> > > http://www.macraigor.com/wiggler.htm
> > >
> > > Leon
> > > --
> > > Leon Heller
> > > G1HSM
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
Reply by ●May 24, 20112011-05-24
> but i dont consider its worth that price.
That's OK. Nobody is forcing you, or anyone else, to buy it.
> its my opinion but look at the facts... its slower and doesnt work on
linux...
For downloading, yes it can be slower into RAM. But if you're flashing a
device, the bottleneck is the flash programming. It has zero latency, which
is a major when in debugging--it's ultra-responsive, unlike USB devices
which have the 1ms turn-around time.
> most USB tools are faster and do work on linux and can be had for about
1/3 of the price...
The wiggler works on Linux to; we made it do that. As for USB being faster,
probably only for downloading, but the wiggler is much snappier when
debugging.
-- Paul.
>
> --- In l..., "Paul Curtis" wrote:
> >
> > Because that's the price they set for it?
> >
> > --
> > Paul Curtis, Rowley Associates Ltd http://www.rowley.co.uk
> > SolderCore arriving Summer 2011! http://www.soldercore.com
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: l... [mailto:l...] On
> > > Behalf Of Jason
> > > Sent: 24 May 2011 13:21
> > > To: l...
> > > Subject: [lpc2000] Re: LPC210x JTAG
> > >
> > > I also wondered why the heck is this $150?
> > >
> > > --- In l..., Leon Heller wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On 23/05/2011 16:22, warm38spl wrote:
> > > > > I've only used Rowley JTAG, Amontec JTAG, and now I have the
Segger
> > > J-link (not yet used it).
> > > > >
> > > > > Wiggler? URL?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > http://www.macraigor.com/wiggler.htm
> > > >
> > > > Leon
> > > > --
> > > > Leon Heller
> > > > G1HSM
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
That's OK. Nobody is forcing you, or anyone else, to buy it.
> its my opinion but look at the facts... its slower and doesnt work on
linux...
For downloading, yes it can be slower into RAM. But if you're flashing a
device, the bottleneck is the flash programming. It has zero latency, which
is a major when in debugging--it's ultra-responsive, unlike USB devices
which have the 1ms turn-around time.
> most USB tools are faster and do work on linux and can be had for about
1/3 of the price...
The wiggler works on Linux to; we made it do that. As for USB being faster,
probably only for downloading, but the wiggler is much snappier when
debugging.
-- Paul.
>
> --- In l..., "Paul Curtis" wrote:
> >
> > Because that's the price they set for it?
> >
> > --
> > Paul Curtis, Rowley Associates Ltd http://www.rowley.co.uk
> > SolderCore arriving Summer 2011! http://www.soldercore.com
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: l... [mailto:l...] On
> > > Behalf Of Jason
> > > Sent: 24 May 2011 13:21
> > > To: l...
> > > Subject: [lpc2000] Re: LPC210x JTAG
> > >
> > > I also wondered why the heck is this $150?
> > >
> > > --- In l..., Leon Heller wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On 23/05/2011 16:22, warm38spl wrote:
> > > > > I've only used Rowley JTAG, Amontec JTAG, and now I have the
Segger
> > > J-link (not yet used it).
> > > > >
> > > > > Wiggler? URL?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > http://www.macraigor.com/wiggler.htm
> > > >
> > > > Leon
> > > > --
> > > > Leon Heller
> > > > G1HSM
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
Reply by ●May 24, 20112011-05-24
Ah ok now thats a good reason :)
--- In l..., "Paul Curtis" wrote:
>
> > but i dont consider its worth that price.
>
> That's OK. Nobody is forcing you, or anyone else, to buy it.
>
> > its my opinion but look at the facts... its slower and doesnt work on
> linux...
>
> For downloading, yes it can be slower into RAM. But if you're flashing a
> device, the bottleneck is the flash programming. It has zero latency, which
> is a major when in debugging--it's ultra-responsive, unlike USB devices
> which have the 1ms turn-around time.
>
> > most USB tools are faster and do work on linux and can be had for about
> 1/3 of the price...
>
> The wiggler works on Linux to; we made it do that. As for USB being faster,
> probably only for downloading, but the wiggler is much snappier when
> debugging.
>
> -- Paul.
>
> >
> > --- In l..., "Paul Curtis" wrote:
> > >
> > > Because that's the price they set for it?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Paul Curtis, Rowley Associates Ltd http://www.rowley.co.uk
> > > SolderCore arriving Summer 2011! http://www.soldercore.com
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: l... [mailto:l...] On
> > > > Behalf Of Jason
> > > > Sent: 24 May 2011 13:21
> > > > To: l...
> > > > Subject: [lpc2000] Re: LPC210x JTAG
> > > >
> > > > I also wondered why the heck is this $150?
> > > >
> > > > --- In l..., Leon Heller wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On 23/05/2011 16:22, warm38spl wrote:
> > > > > > I've only used Rowley JTAG, Amontec JTAG, and now I have the
> Segger
> > > > J-link (not yet used it).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Wiggler? URL?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.macraigor.com/wiggler.htm
> > > > >
> > > > > Leon
> > > > > --
> > > > > Leon Heller
> > > > > G1HSM
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
--- In l..., "Paul Curtis" wrote:
>
> > but i dont consider its worth that price.
>
> That's OK. Nobody is forcing you, or anyone else, to buy it.
>
> > its my opinion but look at the facts... its slower and doesnt work on
> linux...
>
> For downloading, yes it can be slower into RAM. But if you're flashing a
> device, the bottleneck is the flash programming. It has zero latency, which
> is a major when in debugging--it's ultra-responsive, unlike USB devices
> which have the 1ms turn-around time.
>
> > most USB tools are faster and do work on linux and can be had for about
> 1/3 of the price...
>
> The wiggler works on Linux to; we made it do that. As for USB being faster,
> probably only for downloading, but the wiggler is much snappier when
> debugging.
>
> -- Paul.
>
> >
> > --- In l..., "Paul Curtis" wrote:
> > >
> > > Because that's the price they set for it?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Paul Curtis, Rowley Associates Ltd http://www.rowley.co.uk
> > > SolderCore arriving Summer 2011! http://www.soldercore.com
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: l... [mailto:l...] On
> > > > Behalf Of Jason
> > > > Sent: 24 May 2011 13:21
> > > > To: l...
> > > > Subject: [lpc2000] Re: LPC210x JTAG
> > > >
> > > > I also wondered why the heck is this $150?
> > > >
> > > > --- In l..., Leon Heller wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On 23/05/2011 16:22, warm38spl wrote:
> > > > > > I've only used Rowley JTAG, Amontec JTAG, and now I have the
> Segger
> > > > J-link (not yet used it).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Wiggler? URL?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.macraigor.com/wiggler.htm
> > > > >
> > > > > Leon
> > > > > --
> > > > > Leon Heller
> > > > > G1HSM
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
Reply by ●May 24, 20112011-05-24
Nice features, but iffn you dont got no parallel port, whaddya do? (translation
of 'Merkun slang for those, like Paul, across the pond: If, however, your
computer lacks a parallel port, what can you do to utilize those features?)
--- In l..., "Paul Curtis" wrote:
>
> > but i dont consider its worth that price.
>
> That's OK. Nobody is forcing you, or anyone else, to buy it.
>
> > its my opinion but look at the facts... its slower and doesnt work on
> linux...
>
> For downloading, yes it can be slower into RAM. But if you're flashing a
> device, the bottleneck is the flash programming. It has zero latency, which
> is a major when in debugging--it's ultra-responsive, unlike USB devices
> which have the 1ms turn-around time.
>
> > most USB tools are faster and do work on linux and can be had for about
> 1/3 of the price...
>
> The wiggler works on Linux to; we made it do that. As for USB being faster,
> probably only for downloading, but the wiggler is much snappier when
> debugging.
>
> -- Paul.
> > > > > http://www.macraigor.com/wiggler.htm
> > > > >
> > > > > Leon
--- In l..., "Paul Curtis" wrote:
>
> > but i dont consider its worth that price.
>
> That's OK. Nobody is forcing you, or anyone else, to buy it.
>
> > its my opinion but look at the facts... its slower and doesnt work on
> linux...
>
> For downloading, yes it can be slower into RAM. But if you're flashing a
> device, the bottleneck is the flash programming. It has zero latency, which
> is a major when in debugging--it's ultra-responsive, unlike USB devices
> which have the 1ms turn-around time.
>
> > most USB tools are faster and do work on linux and can be had for about
> 1/3 of the price...
>
> The wiggler works on Linux to; we made it do that. As for USB being faster,
> probably only for downloading, but the wiggler is much snappier when
> debugging.
>
> -- Paul.
> > > > > http://www.macraigor.com/wiggler.htm
> > > > >
> > > > > Leon
Reply by ●May 24, 20112011-05-24
Why not plug one in on a PCI card? They're about $15.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: l... [mailto:l...] On
> Behalf Of warm38spl
> Sent: 24 May 2011 4:58 PM
> To: l...
> Subject: [lpc2000] Re: LPC210x JTAG
>
> Nice features, but iffn you dont got no parallel port, whaddya do?
> (translation of 'Merkun slang for those, like Paul, across the pond: If,
> however, your computer lacks a parallel port, what can you do to utilize
> those features?)
>
> --- In l..., "Paul Curtis" wrote:
> >
> > > but i dont consider its worth that price.
> >
> > That's OK. Nobody is forcing you, or anyone else, to buy it.
> >
> > > its my opinion but look at the facts... its slower and doesnt work
> > > on
> > linux...
> >
> > For downloading, yes it can be slower into RAM. But if you're
> > flashing a device, the bottleneck is the flash programming. It has
> > zero latency, which is a major when in debugging--it's
> > ultra-responsive, unlike USB devices which have the 1ms turn-around
time.
> >
> > > most USB tools are faster and do work on linux and can be had for
> > > about
> > 1/3 of the price...
> >
> > The wiggler works on Linux to; we made it do that. As for USB being
> > faster, probably only for downloading, but the wiggler is much
> > snappier when debugging.
> >
> > -- Paul.
> > > > > > http://www.macraigor.com/wiggler.htm
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Leon
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: l... [mailto:l...] On
> Behalf Of warm38spl
> Sent: 24 May 2011 4:58 PM
> To: l...
> Subject: [lpc2000] Re: LPC210x JTAG
>
> Nice features, but iffn you dont got no parallel port, whaddya do?
> (translation of 'Merkun slang for those, like Paul, across the pond: If,
> however, your computer lacks a parallel port, what can you do to utilize
> those features?)
>
> --- In l..., "Paul Curtis" wrote:
> >
> > > but i dont consider its worth that price.
> >
> > That's OK. Nobody is forcing you, or anyone else, to buy it.
> >
> > > its my opinion but look at the facts... its slower and doesnt work
> > > on
> > linux...
> >
> > For downloading, yes it can be slower into RAM. But if you're
> > flashing a device, the bottleneck is the flash programming. It has
> > zero latency, which is a major when in debugging--it's
> > ultra-responsive, unlike USB devices which have the 1ms turn-around
time.
> >
> > > most USB tools are faster and do work on linux and can be had for
> > > about
> > 1/3 of the price...
> >
> > The wiggler works on Linux to; we made it do that. As for USB being
> > faster, probably only for downloading, but the wiggler is much
> > snappier when debugging.
> >
> > -- Paul.
> > > > > > http://www.macraigor.com/wiggler.htm
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Leon
>
