Assembler Directive Reference for MSP 430 Simulation environment..

Started by Madhavjj February 4, 2004
MSP430 Simulation Environment version 2.4 from Texas Instrument which 
is also known as ADT430 IDE compiles pure assembly language files 
with extension like 'filename.asm' . 
Examples given with this ide have assembler directives 
like .set, .equ, .sect used in them. 
TI Assembler, linker , compiler user guide does not have any 
explanation for such dot set, dot equ, dot sect directives.
In fact IT Assembler linker compiler guide does not even mention 
directive .sect any where in it.

Please direct me to suitable pure assembly language reference manual 
where I can find full explanation and details of syntax accepted by 
this MSP430 simulation environment. 

Note that I am not interested in C compilers since they have limit of 
4k bytes attached to them 

Madhav Joshi



Beginning Microcontrollers with the MSP430

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Madhavjj" <madhavjj@madh...>
>
>
> Note that I am not interested in C compilers since they have limit of
> 4k bytes attached to them
>

Actually, only the "free" IAR C compiler has such a size limit. I am
pretty
sure that all of the other compilers (including my AQ430 C compiler, of
course)
 have no such restrictions. As far as I know, you can try out full versions
of any of them
for free during an initial trial period.

Preston Gurd
(The AQ430 C compiler guy)




Download Kickstart from the Ti website, install it, then tick to install 
all documentation. The syntax used by the IAR assembler/compiler is well 
documented. The simulator is fully compatible with files produced by the 
IAR tools. Under the C-Spy option of the IAR embedded Workbench 
(PROJECTS-OPTIONS-CSPY) under SETUP select the simulation tool as 
'SIMULATOR'.

AL

Madhavjj wrote:

> MSP430 Simulation Environment version 2.4 from
Texas Instrument which 
> is also known as ADT430 IDE compiles pure assembly language files 
> with extension like 'filename.asm' . 
> Examples given with this ide have assembler directives 
> like .set, .equ, .sect used in them. 
> TI Assembler, linker , compiler user guide does not have any 
> explanation for such dot set, dot equ, dot sect directives.
> In fact IT Assembler linker compiler guide does not even mention 
> directive .sect any where in it.
> 
> Please direct me to suitable pure assembly language reference manual 
> where I can find full explanation and details of syntax accepted by 
> this MSP430 simulation environment. 
> 
> Note that I am not interested in C compilers since they have limit of 
> 4k bytes attached to them 
> 
> Madhav Joshi
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> .
> 
>  
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 


Thakns a lot for your very prompt reply.
I have kickstart.I have installed IAR ide.I do have
their documentation. But my question is not about IAR.

Please note that I am NOT using IAR IDE and also do
NOT wish to use it.

Question is about ADT430 IDE. Assembler and compiler
associated with it. I am looking for syntax for these
two. It is very definitely not same as IAR.

Please help.


Madhav Joshi.

--- onestone <onestone@ones...> wrote:
> Download Kickstart from the Ti website, install
it,
> then tick to install 
> all documentation. The syntax used by the IAR
> assembler/compiler is well 
> documented. The simulator is fully compatible with
> files produced by the 
> IAR tools. Under the C-Spy option of the IAR
> embedded Workbench 
> (PROJECTS-OPTIONS-CSPY) under SETUP select the
> simulation tool as 
> 'SIMULATOR'.
> 
> AL
> 
> Madhavjj wrote:
> 
> > MSP430 Simulation Environment version 2.4 from
> Texas Instrument which 
> > is also known as ADT430 IDE compiles pure assembly
> language files 
> > with extension like 'filename.asm' . 
> > Examples given with this ide have assembler
> directives 
> > like .set, .equ, .sect used in them. 
> > TI Assembler, linker , compiler user guide does
> not have any 
> > explanation for such dot set, dot equ, dot sect
> directives.
> > In fact IT Assembler linker compiler guide does
> not even mention 
> > directive .sect any where in it.
> > 
> > Please direct me to suitable pure assembly
> language reference manual 
> > where I can find full explanation and details of
> syntax accepted by 
> > this MSP430 simulation environment. 
> > 
> > Note that I am not interested in C compilers since
> they have limit of 
> > 4k bytes attached to them 
> > 
> > Madhav Joshi
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > .
> > 
> >  
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> 
> 


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Thank you very much for your prompt reply.

I am not using neither wish to use C compiler from any
source or IAR limited version at all.

I am using pure assembly languate assembler which is
part of ADT430 ide. This assembler has syntax like
.set, .sect, .equ etc. which is not explained
anywhere. I will like to have suitable reference to
this syntax.

I find that this ide is far better as simulation
process is handled better than IAR system.

Madhav Joshi






--- Preston Gurd <rpgurd@rpgu...> wrote:
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Madhavjj" <madhavjj@madh...>
> >
> >
> > Note that I am not interested in C compilers since
> they have limit of
> > 4k bytes attached to them
> >
> 
> Actually, only the "free" IAR C compiler has such a
> size limit. I am pretty
> sure that all of the other compilers (including my
> AQ430 C compiler, of
> course)
>  have no such restrictions. As far as I know, you
> can try out full versions
> of any of them
> for free during an initial trial period.
> 
> Preston Gurd
> (The AQ430 C compiler guy)
> 
> 
> 
> 


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I understand that, but the ADT430 is no longer supported, as far as I am 
aware, you will have to try and get your hands on the original mid 
1990's documentation. In fact the latest version I am aware of is 
SLAUE12 for the Assembler, dated 1994. I have this in hardcover form only.

The ONLY 4K compiler limiyt on C compilers if for the FREE IAR Kickstart 
tool. The IAR commercial compiler is expensive, but there are plenty of 
other C compilers out there without limitations on code size (within the 
limits of the device). Within this forum the vendors actively support 
their products, and, in my opinion give far superior support than most 
companies are prepared to do. They are ICC430 from Richard Man at 
ImageCraft, AQ430 from Michel at Quadravox and Crossworks from Paul 
Curtis at Rowley Associates. There is also support from group members 
for the free MSPgcc compiler. So if you DO PREFER compilers there is no 
reason to be limited. ALL of these vendors offer excellent trial terms, 
with unlimited code generation. Personally I prefer assembler, so have 
no axes to grind either way.

I'm not being rude, but why not use the IAR tools? they are free, they 
are currently supported, and the simulator has better I/O simultaion 
than the older Ti software in my opinion. I would not produce a 
commercial design using the older tools. If you ABSOLUTELY INSIST on 
doing this the definitions of ALL these directives can be found in 
chapter 4 of SLAUE12.

And NO! you can't have my only copy nice as I am ;@}, but I might be 
able to scan it for you.

Cheers

Al


Madhav Joshi wrote:
> Thakns a lot for your very prompt reply.
> I have kickstart.I have installed IAR ide.I do have
> their documentation. But my question is not about IAR.
> 
> Please note that I am NOT using IAR IDE and also do
> NOT wish to use it.
> 
> Question is about ADT430 IDE. Assembler and compiler
> associated with it. I am looking for syntax for these
> two. It is very definitely not same as IAR.
> 
> Please help.
> 
> 
> Madhav Joshi.
> 
> --- onestone <onestone@ones...> wrote:
> 
>>Download Kickstart from the Ti website, install it,
>>then tick to install 
>>all documentation. The syntax used by the IAR
>>assembler/compiler is well 
>>documented. The simulator is fully compatible with
>>files produced by the 
>>IAR tools. Under the C-Spy option of the IAR
>>embedded Workbench 
>>(PROJECTS-OPTIONS-CSPY) under SETUP select the
>>simulation tool as 
>>'SIMULATOR'.
>>
>>AL
>>
>>Madhavjj wrote:
>>
>>
>>>MSP430 Simulation Environment version 2.4 from
>>
>>Texas Instrument which 
>>
>>>is also known as ADT430 IDE compiles pure assembly
>>
>>language files 
>>
>>>with extension like 'filename.asm' . 
>>>Examples given with this ide have assembler
>>
>>directives 
>>
>>>like .set, .equ, .sect used in them. 
>>>TI Assembler, linker , compiler user guide does
>>
>>not have any 
>>
>>>explanation for such dot set, dot equ, dot sect
>>
>>directives.
>>
>>>In fact IT Assembler linker compiler guide does
>>
>>not even mention 
>>
>>>directive .sect any where in it.
>>>
>>>Please direct me to suitable pure assembly
>>
>>language reference manual 
>>
>>>where I can find full explanation and details of
>>
>>syntax accepted by 
>>
>>>this MSP430 simulation environment. 
>>>
>>>Note that I am not interested in C compilers since
>>
>>they have limit of 
>>
>>>4k bytes attached to them 
>>>
>>>Madhav Joshi
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>.
>>>
>>> 
>>>Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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