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I am looking for input on which BASIC compiler to get to program PICs. I have it narrowed down to PicBASIC Pro, and Celestial Horizons CH Flash Basic. While I know that PicBasic Pro will work with more types of chips, I will really only be using the 16's, so that is not a real issue. Is there ANYTHING that would justify the purchase of PicBasic Pro over the CH Flash Basic, considering that Pro costs more than double the CH Flash? Thanks for all input, advice, and suggestions! Scott |
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BASIC advice...
Started by ●September 4, 2003
Reply by ●September 5, 20032003-09-05
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When you did your search for pic basics where did you look? CH Flash Basic is a very basic system with a dificult front end and very limited pic support. What happens when you want to program for the 18 series? Pbpro is not bad but old hat now its been years since any decent upgrades have been added. If you want the ultimate in Pic Basics you have to go for Proton+ http://www.crownhill.co.uk/proton_comparison.php The feature least for the product is to big to list here. but for starters 8 16 and 32 bit vars Floating point support (proper) Glcd support Proper data handling Tim --- In , "clayforge" <festave@t...> wrote: > I am looking for input on which BASIC compiler to get to program > PICs. I have it narrowed down to PicBASIC Pro, and Celestial > Horizons CH Flash Basic. While I know that PicBasic Pro will work > with more types of chips, I will really only be using the 16's, so > that is not a real issue. Is there ANYTHING that would justify the > purchase of PicBasic Pro over the CH Flash Basic, considering that > Pro costs more than double the CH Flash? Thanks for all input, > advice, and suggestions! > > Scott |
Reply by ●September 5, 20032003-09-05
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Hi Scott, Have you seen the XCSB compiler at http://www.xcprod.com/titan/XCSB ? Regards Sergio Masci ----- Original Message ----- From: clayforge <> To: <> Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 1:50 AM Subject: [piclist] BASIC advice... > I am looking for input on which BASIC compiler to get to program > PICs. I have it narrowed down to PicBASIC Pro, and Celestial > Horizons CH Flash Basic. While I know that PicBasic Pro will work > with more types of chips, I will really only be using the 16's, so > that is not a real issue. Is there ANYTHING that would justify the > purchase of PicBasic Pro over the CH Flash Basic, considering that > Pro costs more than double the CH Flash? Thanks for all input, > advice, and suggestions! > > Scott |
Reply by ●September 5, 20032003-09-05
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Have you Looked at Proton+ it knocks all picbasic's into a cocked hat. http://www.crownhill.co.uk/proton_comparison.php No other basic comes near it for funtionality and device support. Its a good price too 125. Tim --- In , "clayforge" <festave@t...> wrote: > I am looking for input on which BASIC compiler to get to program > PICs. I have it narrowed down to PicBASIC Pro, and Celestial > Horizons CH Flash Basic. While I know that PicBasic Pro will work > with more types of chips, I will really only be using the 16's, so > that is not a real issue. Is there ANYTHING that would justify the > purchase of PicBasic Pro over the CH Flash Basic, considering that > Pro costs more than double the CH Flash? Thanks for all input, > advice, and suggestions! > > Scott |
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Reply by ●September 5, 20032003-09-05
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Scott Don't forget to Look at Proton+ http://www.crownhill.co.uk/proton_comparison.php Tim --- In , "clayforge" <festave@t...> wrote: > I am looking for input on which BASIC compiler to get to program > PICs. I have it narrowed down to PicBASIC Pro, and Celestial > Horizons CH Flash Basic. While I know that PicBasic Pro will work > with more types of chips, I will really only be using the 16's, so > that is not a real issue. Is there ANYTHING that would justify the > purchase of PicBasic Pro over the CH Flash Basic, considering that > Pro costs more than double the CH Flash? Thanks for all input, > advice, and suggestions! > > Scott |
Reply by ●September 5, 20032003-09-05
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As I have been unable to post a reply to the original message. I will try here. Scott Have a look at Proton+ http://www.crownhill.co.uk/proton_comparison.php Tim |
Reply by ●September 5, 20032003-09-05
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Very Very sorry for the multiple posts. Every body Tim --- In , "xob_jt" <tim@t...> wrote: > > Have you Looked at Proton+ it knocks all picbasic's into a cocked > hat. > > http://www.crownhill.co.uk/proton_comparison.php > > No other basic comes near it for funtionality and device support. > Its a good price too 125. > > Tim > > > --- In , "clayforge" <festave@t...> wrote: > > I am looking for input on which BASIC compiler to get to program > > PICs. I have it narrowed down to PicBASIC Pro, and Celestial > > Horizons CH Flash Basic. While I know that PicBasic Pro will work > > with more types of chips, I will really only be using the 16's, so > > that is not a real issue. Is there ANYTHING that would justify > the > > purchase of PicBasic Pro over the CH Flash Basic, considering that > > Pro costs more than double the CH Flash? Thanks for all input, > > advice, and suggestions! > > > > Scott |
Reply by ●September 6, 20032003-09-06
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Hi
I tried installing the Proton std and Proton+
with XP but only the installer runs and then nothing. Has anyone had this
happen?
regards
Martin
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Reply by ●September 6, 20032003-09-06
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I have PicBasic Pro, and have been using it off and on for a few years, and have recently downloaded the trial version of CH Flash. Here are my 2 bits, in a nutshell: the CH Flash compiler doesn't match the professional useability or maturaty of the PicBAsic Pro compiler. You get what you pay for. CHF is good if you want to learn PIC assembly. PBP is good if you want to develop useable PIC code. More details: The CHF compiler is not too user friendly, and the online help manual is (even) much worse than the PBP manual. An online search for CHF sample programs results in VERY few resources, with only 17 basic examples on their own web site. PBP help is abundant--including probably over 100 programs just on the MELabs site. (By the way, I bought mine from www.rentron.com ...bruce has ALWAYS been very helpful with excellent tech support, and you might find a slightly cheaper site, but I doubt you'll find better support.) There is also a PBP email list that is far more active than this group. CHF has crashed on me at least three times in the first half hour I used it. It also hangs regularly with XP. CHF is designed more for learning assembler, and isn't user friendly when it comes to actually entering in the program--you have to click buttons instead of typing in the command, and often the dialog boxes that pop up aren't explained well in the help. Some have complained that PBP requires a third party editer. To that, I say--SO WHAT!!! Using the free MicroCode Studio, you can't tell they aren't just one program. The MC Studio Plus is even better, with great debugging capabilities. MCS and MCS+ both have context sensitive highlighting and coloring of text. They also allow you to quick jump to a variable declaration or a label, which is handy in large programs. While it's true that CHF has procedures and allows you to pass values...if you look at the code produced, you can do it manually with PBP. (i.e. instead of CHF's "Call Procedure_1 (x, y)", you use three lines that amount to "Proc_1_A = X : Proc_1_B = Y : Gosub Procedure_1") The compiled code is nearly identical. Also, CHF has float capability. PBP does, too...but you have to port in some assembly code to do so...and the samples are on their web site. The bottom line: If you need to save money, and want to learn assembly for PIC's, and don't mind spending extra time, go with the CHF. If you want to get programming quickly with compact and robust code, regular (and useful) upgrades at reasonable prices ($10), go with PicBasic Pro. Cliff --- In , "clayforge" <festave@t...> wrote: > I am looking for input on which BASIC compiler to get to program > PICs. I have it narrowed down to PicBASIC Pro, and Celestial > Horizons CH Flash Basic. While I know that PicBasic Pro will work > with more types of chips, I will really only be using the 16's, so > that is not a real issue. Is there ANYTHING that would justify the > purchase of PicBasic Pro over the CH Flash Basic, considering that > Pro costs more than double the CH Flash? Thanks for all input, > advice, and suggestions! > > Scott |
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Reply by ●September 6, 20032003-09-06
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Martin I run the full version under XP and have also instaled the Demo under XP. I have also just re-instaled it to ensure it's OK and it all worked. Try again. You will not be sorry! Don't forget to spend some time looking at the help file you really cannot appreciate the full power of the compiler with out checking it out. If you still have trouble contact me and I will do my utmost to sort it. Tim --- In , "martin de lange" <de_lange@x> wrote: > Hi > > I tried installing the Proton std and Proton+ with XP but only the installer runs and then nothing. Has anyone had this happen? > > regards > Martin > ----- Original Message ----- > From: xob_jt > To: > Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 7:01 AM > Subject: [piclist] Re: BASIC advice... > > Have you Looked at Proton+ it knocks all picbasic's into a cocked > hat. > > http://www.crownhill.co.uk/proton_comparison.php > > No other basic comes near it for funtionality and device support. > Its a good price too 125. > > Tim > > > --- In , "clayforge" <festave@t...> wrote: > > I am looking for input on which BASIC compiler to get to program > > PICs. I have it narrowed down to PicBASIC Pro, and Celestial > > Horizons CH Flash Basic. While I know that PicBasic Pro will work > > with more types of chips, I will really only be using the 16's, so > > that is not a real issue. Is there ANYTHING that would justify > the > > purchase of PicBasic Pro over the CH Flash Basic, considering that > > Pro costs more than double the CH Flash? Thanks for all input, > > advice, and suggestions! > > > > Scott > > > to unsubscribe, go to http://www.yahoogroups.com and follow the instructions > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. |
