pre-programming service or...?

Started by Phil March 31, 2004
I have several hundred PIC based boards that I am going to get
assembled. Needless to say, I dont particularly want to program each
PIC by hand. In addition, I'm not sure I want to put an ICSP
connector on the board (ok, V 0.9 has such a connector for now) for
space considerations. Does anyone have suggestions of where I might
find a service like this?

Baring a cost-effective solution for pre-programming, is
there "automatable" programmer software out there so I could build a
set up that cheap labor (i.e. college kid or what ever) could
operate. Maybe a DOS version that runs under Win2K?

The PIC is an SOIC package.

Thanks,
Phil



A distributor like Arrow Electronics can do them for you for a small
fee (assuming you buy the parts from them). I'm not sure, but DigiKey
might also.

I've had Arrow do programming of PIC16CXX OTP parts in the past, as
well as 68HC05 family parts. If I recall correctly they wanted
something like $.25->$.50 each to do it in 500 to 1000 piece volumes.
One good thing about using a "real" vendor is that they will only ship
you good parts. Any that they screw up you don't pay for.

I'm not sure what you value your time at, but I can't imagine you would
do it for that amount. I'm not sure you could hire someone to do it for
that amount. Then there's the cost of some kind of programming adapter
or fixture for the SO package...

Matt Pobursky
Maximum Performance Systems

On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 04:14:52 -0000, Phil wrote:
>I have several hundred PIC based boards that I am going to get
>assembled. Needless to say, I dont particularly want to program each
>PIC by hand. In addition, I'm not sure I want to put an ICSP
>connector on the board (ok, V 0.9 has such a connector for now) for
>space considerations. Does anyone have suggestions of where I might
>find a service like this?
>
>Baring a cost-effective solution for pre-programming, is
>there "automatable" programmer software out there so I could build a
>set up that cheap labor (i.e. college kid or what ever) could
>operate. Maybe a DOS version that runs under Win2K?
>
>The PIC is an SOIC package.
>
>Thanks,
>Phil





thanks. that's pretty reasonable but 500 pieces is definitely more
than I was thinking. I'll take a look at them.

--- In , Matt Pobursky <ccsuser@m...> wrote:
> A distributor like Arrow Electronics can do them for you for a
small
> fee (assuming you buy the parts from them). I'm not sure, but
DigiKey
> might also.
>
> I've had Arrow do programming of PIC16CXX OTP parts in the past, as
> well as 68HC05 family parts. If I recall correctly they wanted
> something like $.25->$.50 each to do it in 500 to 1000 piece
volumes.
> One good thing about using a "real" vendor is that they will only
ship
> you good parts. Any that they screw up you don't pay for.
>
> I'm not sure what you value your time at, but I can't imagine you
would
> do it for that amount. I'm not sure you could hire someone to do it
for
> that amount. Then there's the cost of some kind of programming
adapter
> or fixture for the SO package...
>
> Matt Pobursky
> Maximum Performance Systems
>
> On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 04:14:52 -0000, Phil wrote:
> >I have several hundred PIC based boards that I am going to get
> >assembled. Needless to say, I dont particularly want to program
each
> >PIC by hand. In addition, I'm not sure I want to put an ICSP
> >connector on the board (ok, V 0.9 has such a connector for now)
for
> >space considerations. Does anyone have suggestions of where I
might
> >find a service like this?
> >
> >Baring a cost-effective solution for pre-programming, is
> >there "automatable" programmer software out there so I could
build a
> >set up that cheap labor (i.e. college kid or what ever) could
> >operate. Maybe a DOS version that runs under Win2K?
> >
> >The PIC is an SOIC package.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Phil





I have used both Digikey and Arrow for programming. They will require
a 1st article approval. I think Digikey includes it in the order,
Arrow a separate charge. I think it depends on how nicely you talk to
whoever.
Charge is usually .25-.30 per chip small quantities with around $50.00
minimum.

Chad

--- Phil <> wrote:
> thanks. that's pretty reasonable but 500 pieces is definitely more
> than I was thinking. I'll take a look at them.
>
> --- In , Matt Pobursky <ccsuser@m...> wrote:
> > A distributor like Arrow Electronics can do them for you for a
> small
> > fee (assuming you buy the parts from them). I'm not sure, but
> DigiKey
> > might also.
> >
> > I've had Arrow do programming of PIC16CXX OTP parts in the past, as
> > well as 68HC05 family parts. If I recall correctly they wanted
> > something like $.25->$.50 each to do it in 500 to 1000 piece
> volumes.
> > One good thing about using a "real" vendor is that they will only
> ship
> > you good parts. Any that they screw up you don't pay for.
> >
> > I'm not sure what you value your time at, but I can't imagine you
> would
> > do it for that amount. I'm not sure you could hire someone to do it
>
> for
> > that amount. Then there's the cost of some kind of programming
> adapter
> > or fixture for the SO package...
> >
> > Matt Pobursky
> > Maximum Performance Systems
> >
> > On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 04:14:52 -0000, Phil wrote:
> > > I have several hundred PIC based boards that I am going to get
> > > assembled. Needless to say, I dont particularly want to program
> each
> > > PIC by hand. In addition, I'm not sure I want to put an ICSP
> > > connector on the board (ok, V 0.9 has such a connector for now)
> for
> > > space considerations. Does anyone have suggestions of where I
> might
> > > find a service like this?
> > >
> > > Baring a cost-effective solution for pre-programming, is
> > > there "automatable" programmer software out there so I could
> build a
> > > set up that cheap labor (i.e. college kid or what ever) could
> > > operate. Maybe a DOS version that runs under Win2K?
> > >
> > > The PIC is an SOIC package.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Phil


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