picc lite programmer?

Started by davidgarciajr May 1, 2004
I am looking for a circuit design for a low cost programmer that I
can use with picclite ide. Are there any sites out there with such
information? I've seen other ones based on Tait and Covington, etc.



It depends on what PICs you want to program.
There is a $15.00 one which programs 8 and 18
pin PICs from your serial port.

There are several parallel port based programmers.
see www.ic-prog.com/index1.htm . This is a very
nice shareware programmer driver, which supports
a lot of in-expensive programmer hardware.

There's a list, and links on that site. --- In , "davidgarciajr" <davidgarciajr@y...>
wrote:
> I am looking for a circuit design for a low cost programmer that I
> can use with picclite ide. Are there any sites out there with such
> information? I've seen other ones based on Tait and Covington, etc.




Note also many of these programmers are for the
16F84 (1k Flash, 64 bytes ram, 64 eeprom) 18-pin chip.
The 16F628 is the replacement (2k Flash, 228 bytes
ram, 128 eeprom) 18-pin chip.

--- In , "davidgarciajr" <davidgarciajr@y...>
wrote:
> I am looking for a circuit design for a low cost programmer that I
> can use with picclite ide. Are there any sites out there with such
> information? I've seen other ones based on Tait and Covington, etc.





To clarify, I am looking for a hardware circuit design to program a
16F84 using Hitech's Picclite IDE. I've seen the Tait/clones and I
don't care much for assembly or basic. I've taken classes for both
and don't have the the time to mess around with either language. I am
more comfortable with C & C++ and would rather use picclite. Anybody
have any suggestions on where I can get a programmer circuit that
would work with picclite? It would be very very much appreciated!

Thanks :-)

--- In , "Allan Lane" <allan.lane@h...> wrote:
> Note also many of these programmers are for the
> 16F84 (1k Flash, 64 bytes ram, 64 eeprom) 18-pin chip.
> The 16F628 is the replacement (2k Flash, 228 bytes
> ram, 128 eeprom) 18-pin chip.
>
> --- In , "davidgarciajr"
<davidgarciajr@y...>
> wrote:
> > I am looking for a circuit design for a low cost programmer that
I
> > can use with picclite ide. Are there any sites out there with
such
> > information? I've seen other ones based on Tait and Covington,
etc.



Sounds like you are confused. The output of all the compilers - C, BASIC or
ASM is a HEX file. Then you burn it to your PIC using a programmer of your
choosing. The Tait way is simple and cheap and the source language is not
relevant.

At 02:43 PM 3/05/04, you wrote:
>To clarify, I am looking for a hardware circuit design to program a
>16F84 using Hitech's Picclite IDE. I've seen the Tait/clones and I
>don't care much for assembly or basic. I've taken classes for both
>and don't have the the time to mess around with either language. I am
>more comfortable with C & C++ and would rather use picclite. Anybody
>have any suggestions on where I can get a programmer circuit that
>would work with picclite? It would be very very much appreciated!
>
>Thanks :-)
>
>--- In , "Allan Lane" <allan.lane@h...> wrote:
>> Note also many of these programmers are for the
>> 16F84 (1k Flash, 64 bytes ram, 64 eeprom) 18-pin chip.
>> The 16F628 is the replacement (2k Flash, 228 bytes
>> ram, 128 eeprom) 18-pin chip.
>>
>> --- In , "davidgarciajr"
><davidgarciajr@y...>
>> wrote:
>> > I am looking for a circuit design for a low cost programmer that
>I
>> > can use with picclite ide. Are there any sites out there with
>such
>> > information? I've seen other ones based on Tait and Covington,
>etc. >
>
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Well, almost true.

The output of a 'C' compiler can be a PIC assembly
file, which you then give to MPASM to compile into
a .LST listing file, and a .HEX hex output file.

The output of a 'Basic' compiler can be
an assembly set of Basic Token calls. This is then
linked with a Basic.LIB library file of token
subroutines to produce a full assembly file. This
is then given to MPASM for conversion into a
HEX file.

The function of a Compiler is to turn a program
specified in a 'higher' level language into
a 'lower' (more detailed?) level language. There
can be multiple stages of compilation -- from
'C' to Assembly, from Assembly to Hex.

It is true that it is the HEX file you need
to burn in to the PIC. It is not true that
all compilers produce HEX files.

For the original questioner: Even PIC-Lite will
have to produce a 'hex' file eventually (through
some sequence of steps), which you will then
download into the burner to be written to the
PIC.

--- In , Phil Seakins <pseakins@a...> wrote:
> Sounds like you are confused. The output of all the compilers - C,
BASIC or
> ASM is a HEX file. Then you burn it to your PIC using a programmer
of your
> choosing. The Tait way is simple and cheap and the source language
is not
> relevant.
>
> At 02:43 PM 3/05/04, you wrote:
> >To clarify, I am looking for a hardware circuit design to program
a
> >16F84 using Hitech's Picclite IDE. I've seen the Tait/clones and I
> >don't care much for assembly or basic. I've taken classes for both
> >and don't have the the time to mess around with either language.
I am
> >more comfortable with C & C++ and would rather use picclite.
Anybody
> >have any suggestions on where I can get a programmer circuit that
> >would work with picclite? It would be very very much appreciated!
> >
> >Thanks :-)
> >
> >--- In , "Allan Lane" <allan.lane@h...>
wrote:
> >> Note also many of these programmers are for the
> >> 16F84 (1k Flash, 64 bytes ram, 64 eeprom) 18-pin chip.
> >> The 16F628 is the replacement (2k Flash, 228 bytes
> >> ram, 128 eeprom) 18-pin chip.
> >>
> >> --- In , "davidgarciajr"
> ><davidgarciajr@y...>
> >> wrote:
> >> > I am looking for a circuit design for a low cost programmer
that
> >I
> >> > can use with picclite ide. Are there any sites out there with
> >such
> >> > information? I've seen other ones based on Tait and Covington,
> >etc.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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instructions
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> >
> >
> >