At 12:25 PM 2/11/2004 -0800, you wrote:
>How about allowing a downloader & debugger on PalmOS
????
>( linux + Sharp zuarus => field portable DC environtment!! )
Our company is toying with a similar idea (not debugging, but downloading)
using Palm/PocketPC/whatever. Once you overcome the lack of a generic
field download utility, porting your serial updater to a Palm should be
trivial.
We haven't received enough pressure from our customers yet, but
it's
coming. More and more people have access to PDAs with sophisticated OSs,
and the portability of those vs a laptop is seen as an obvious advantage.
-Mike
Dynamic C under VMware, WINE, or Linux RabbitLink available?
Started by ●February 1, 2004
Reply by ●February 11, 20042004-02-11
Reply by ●February 11, 20042004-02-11
El mi 11-02-2004 a las 17:15, Mike van Meeteren escribi
> Agreed. However, "German Pablo Gentile" was doing exactly that. I commend
> the original poster for trying to get it to work under Linux. His approach
> was far different than Mr. Gentile's approach. He started by saying "I
> have done some work to try to get this to work, here's the steps I've
> taken, can you help me out with the details", vs the other approach of
> "ZWorld sucks for only making DC available on Windows, they need to fix it
> for us so we can run it under our favorite OS".
>
I dont use that words, but yes i think zworld must do Dynamic C work in
Linux.
I already to the steps and time to time recheck if it works in Linux, so
please dont talk about you dont know....
Keep using Windows
> As far as OS wars, I have no great love for Windows. As a matter of fact I
What really have no sense. In place of try to make Zworld do something
about that, you lie: "98% of people use windows".
Again, you are so ignorant.
--
German Pablo Gentile
> Agreed. However, "German Pablo Gentile" was doing exactly that. I commend
> the original poster for trying to get it to work under Linux. His approach
> was far different than Mr. Gentile's approach. He started by saying "I
> have done some work to try to get this to work, here's the steps I've
> taken, can you help me out with the details", vs the other approach of
> "ZWorld sucks for only making DC available on Windows, they need to fix it
> for us so we can run it under our favorite OS".
>
I dont use that words, but yes i think zworld must do Dynamic C work in
Linux.
I already to the steps and time to time recheck if it works in Linux, so
please dont talk about you dont know....
Keep using Windows
> As far as OS wars, I have no great love for Windows. As a matter of fact I
What really have no sense. In place of try to make Zworld do something
about that, you lie: "98% of people use windows".
Again, you are so ignorant.
--
German Pablo Gentile
Reply by ●February 11, 20042004-02-11
At 09:47 PM 2/11/2004 -0300, you wrote:
>I already to the steps and time to time recheck if it works in Linux, so
>please dont talk about you dont know....
>What really have no sense. In place of try to make Zworld do something
>about that, you lie: "98% of people use windows".
>
>Again, you are so ignorant.
If you are going to continue to use an unprofessional attitude and blast
me, please take this offline. My e-mail address is attached to the
top. Private conversation about this topic in a professional manner is
welcomed. Rude namecalling will cheerfully be bitbucket.
-Mike
--
Mike vanMeeteren fast351@fast... FASTechnologies Corp.
Track Hauler: 2001 F150 Track toy: 89 Mustang LX 351W 10.93 @ 122.5 MPH
>I already to the steps and time to time recheck if it works in Linux, so
>please dont talk about you dont know....
>What really have no sense. In place of try to make Zworld do something
>about that, you lie: "98% of people use windows".
>
>Again, you are so ignorant.
If you are going to continue to use an unprofessional attitude and blast
me, please take this offline. My e-mail address is attached to the
top. Private conversation about this topic in a professional manner is
welcomed. Rude namecalling will cheerfully be bitbucket.
-Mike
--
Mike vanMeeteren fast351@fast... FASTechnologies Corp.
Track Hauler: 2001 F150 Track toy: 89 Mustang LX 351W 10.93 @ 122.5 MPH
Reply by ●February 11, 20042004-02-11
El mi 11-02-2004 a las 16:38, Peter Clark escribi
> Please don't turn this group into a liberal linux rant fest. Perhaps
> those that use English as a 2nd or third language might consider
> starting their own group.
Sorry, i`m in the Nazis group? I think it was the Rabbit people.
I can't believe that.
Then you will call me comunist and "latino"?
You are a really piece of shit (is well written, feel free to correct my
spell)?
Me gustaria ver que otro lenguaje hablas pedazo de hijo de puta.
Thanks, and sorry by my poor english, and so many well spanish.
German.
> Please don't turn this group into a liberal linux rant fest. Perhaps
> those that use English as a 2nd or third language might consider
> starting their own group.
Sorry, i`m in the Nazis group? I think it was the Rabbit people.
I can't believe that.
Then you will call me comunist and "latino"?
You are a really piece of shit (is well written, feel free to correct my
spell)?
Me gustaria ver que otro lenguaje hablas pedazo de hijo de puta.
Thanks, and sorry by my poor english, and so many well spanish.
German.
Reply by ●February 11, 20042004-02-11
Reply by ●February 11, 20042004-02-11
German Pablo, Mike, and the rest,
PLEASE STOP! Cool off! Have a break!
We're not schoolgrade kids, we're professionals (or at least people who're
contributing on this forum). We're not here to measure our *****, but to
help each other with ideas.
(Windows / Linux / OS2 / Be / OsX / MAC / etc) fans, keep your tastes for
yourselves and your friends. It's ZWorld (and Softools, in this same boat)
choice, marketing decision etc to decide when, how and whether to support
non-Windows development hosts. I have to agree that if one's job is
dependant so much of DC, he could easy afford $200 for eBay sourced PC and
monitor (and those $200 will buy you decent DC-sufficient PC everywhere on
the world, not just in USa) for development.
It's not necessary to react RUDE to every couple of words you're offended
with. Yes, English is not my first languange, neither is my second, nor my
third - I learned it fourth, but as a foreign langiage now use it most. But
as de-facto international standard for IT-related communication, native
English speakers have to admit that sometimes we (latinos, arabs, slavics
etc) cannot find the right word, or simply do not know it.
Please keep the forum clean! It's something we've to keep, if we want it to
survive.
Viva!
Regards,
George Georgiev
(native Bulgarian)
PLEASE STOP! Cool off! Have a break!
We're not schoolgrade kids, we're professionals (or at least people who're
contributing on this forum). We're not here to measure our *****, but to
help each other with ideas.
(Windows / Linux / OS2 / Be / OsX / MAC / etc) fans, keep your tastes for
yourselves and your friends. It's ZWorld (and Softools, in this same boat)
choice, marketing decision etc to decide when, how and whether to support
non-Windows development hosts. I have to agree that if one's job is
dependant so much of DC, he could easy afford $200 for eBay sourced PC and
monitor (and those $200 will buy you decent DC-sufficient PC everywhere on
the world, not just in USa) for development.
It's not necessary to react RUDE to every couple of words you're offended
with. Yes, English is not my first languange, neither is my second, nor my
third - I learned it fourth, but as a foreign langiage now use it most. But
as de-facto international standard for IT-related communication, native
English speakers have to admit that sometimes we (latinos, arabs, slavics
etc) cannot find the right word, or simply do not know it.
Please keep the forum clean! It's something we've to keep, if we want it to
survive.
Viva!
Regards,
George Georgiev
(native Bulgarian)
Reply by ●February 12, 20042004-02-12
GNU C compilers works well in Windows and Linux, DC is not a good C compiler but
we also may use Softtools ANSI C compiler. I read a lot of activity to speak
about Linux, Windows and so on but why don't try to port GNU C Compiler and
GDB to Rabbit? This group is very active then if we all may collaborate we will
have in a decent time a good free C compiler and debugger for free in Windows
and Linux and we may invest better our time.
Please, reply if interested to this job.
George Georgiev wrote:
German Pablo, Mike, and the rest, PLEASE STOP! Cool off! Have a break! We're not schoolgrade kids, we're professionals (or at least people who're contributing on this forum). We're not here to measure our *****, but to help each other with ideas. (Windows / Linux / OS2 / Be / OsX / MAC / etc) fans, keep your tastes for yourselves and your friends. It's ZWorld (and Softools, in this same boat) choice, marketing decision etc to decide when, how and whether to support non-Windows development hosts. I have to agree that if one's job is dependant so much of DC, he could easy afford $200 for eBay sourced PC and monitor (and those $200 will buy you decent DC-sufficient PC everywhere on the world, not just in USa) for development. It's not necessary to react RUDE to every couple of words you're offended with. Yes, English is not my first languange, neither is my second, nor my third - I learned it fourth, but as a foreign langiage now use it most. But as de-facto international standard for IT-related communication, native English speakers have to admit that sometimes we (latinos, arabs, slavics etc) cannot find the right word, or simply do not know it. Please keep the forum clean! It's something we've to keep, if we want it to survive. Viva! Regards, George Georgiev (native Bulgarian) -----Original Message----- From: German Pablo Gentile [mailto:l...@cyberiait.com.ar] Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 2:53 AM To: Lista Rabbit Subject: RE: [rabbit-semi] Dynamic C under VMware, WINE, or LinuxRabbitLinkavailable? El mi?, 11-02-2004 a las 16:38, Peter Clark escribi?: Please don't turn this group into a liberal linux rant fest. Perhaps those that use English as a 2nd or third language might consider starting their own group. Sorry, i`m in the Nazis group? I think it was the Rabbit people. I can't believe that. Then you will call me comunist and "latino"? You are a really piece of shit (is well written, feel free to correct my spell)? Me gustaria ver que otro lenguaje hablas pedazo de hijo de puta. Thanks, and sorry by my poor english, and so many well spanish. German.
Please, reply if interested to this job.
George Georgiev wrote:
German Pablo, Mike, and the rest, PLEASE STOP! Cool off! Have a break! We're not schoolgrade kids, we're professionals (or at least people who're contributing on this forum). We're not here to measure our *****, but to help each other with ideas. (Windows / Linux / OS2 / Be / OsX / MAC / etc) fans, keep your tastes for yourselves and your friends. It's ZWorld (and Softools, in this same boat) choice, marketing decision etc to decide when, how and whether to support non-Windows development hosts. I have to agree that if one's job is dependant so much of DC, he could easy afford $200 for eBay sourced PC and monitor (and those $200 will buy you decent DC-sufficient PC everywhere on the world, not just in USa) for development. It's not necessary to react RUDE to every couple of words you're offended with. Yes, English is not my first languange, neither is my second, nor my third - I learned it fourth, but as a foreign langiage now use it most. But as de-facto international standard for IT-related communication, native English speakers have to admit that sometimes we (latinos, arabs, slavics etc) cannot find the right word, or simply do not know it. Please keep the forum clean! It's something we've to keep, if we want it to survive. Viva! Regards, George Georgiev (native Bulgarian) -----Original Message----- From: German Pablo Gentile [mailto:l...@cyberiait.com.ar] Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 2:53 AM To: Lista Rabbit Subject: RE: [rabbit-semi] Dynamic C under VMware, WINE, or LinuxRabbitLinkavailable? El mi?, 11-02-2004 a las 16:38, Peter Clark escribi?: Please don't turn this group into a liberal linux rant fest. Perhaps those that use English as a 2nd or third language might consider starting their own group. Sorry, i`m in the Nazis group? I think it was the Rabbit people. I can't believe that. Then you will call me comunist and "latino"? You are a really piece of shit (is well written, feel free to correct my spell)? Me gustaria ver que otro lenguaje hablas pedazo de hijo de puta. Thanks, and sorry by my poor english, and so many well spanish. German.
Reply by ●February 12, 20042004-02-12
tor 2004-02-12 klockan 08.31 skrev Micron Engineering:
> GNU C compilers works well in Windows and Linux, DC is not a good C
> compiler but we also may use Softtools ANSI C compiler. I read a lot
> of activity to speak about Linux, Windows and so on but why don't try
> to port GNU C Compiler and GDB to Rabbit? This group is very active
> then if we all may collaborate we will have in a decent time a good
> free C compiler and debugger for free in Windows and Linux and we may
> invest better our time.
> Please, reply if interested to this job.
I think this sounds very interesting (in fact i tried to start a
discussion about this in an earlier mail). I don't know much about the
internals of GCC, but judging from the (long) list of presently
supported targets
(http://www.gnuxtools.com/targets.html) there seems to be no 8-bit
targets at this date, and that might be a problem.
There are some other GPL-alternatives that might suite better. In
particular SDCC ("Small Device C Compiler", http://sdcc.sourceforge.net)
as it already has a Z80 target. I think I will delve into that as soon
as I can get some free time.
While I would appreciate to see DC running natively in Linux or under
Wine I would not be totally satisfied until I have an open-source
alternative since *that* is the important matter to me, and not whether
it's running in a Windows or Linux environment. (Of course, if it is
open source it will be possible to port it to whatever OS you run,
including handhelds)
(I hope noone see this mail as a continuation of the flame-war...)
Greetings,
Jonatan Magnusson
> GNU C compilers works well in Windows and Linux, DC is not a good C
> compiler but we also may use Softtools ANSI C compiler. I read a lot
> of activity to speak about Linux, Windows and so on but why don't try
> to port GNU C Compiler and GDB to Rabbit? This group is very active
> then if we all may collaborate we will have in a decent time a good
> free C compiler and debugger for free in Windows and Linux and we may
> invest better our time.
> Please, reply if interested to this job.
I think this sounds very interesting (in fact i tried to start a
discussion about this in an earlier mail). I don't know much about the
internals of GCC, but judging from the (long) list of presently
supported targets
(http://www.gnuxtools.com/targets.html) there seems to be no 8-bit
targets at this date, and that might be a problem.
There are some other GPL-alternatives that might suite better. In
particular SDCC ("Small Device C Compiler", http://sdcc.sourceforge.net)
as it already has a Z80 target. I think I will delve into that as soon
as I can get some free time.
While I would appreciate to see DC running natively in Linux or under
Wine I would not be totally satisfied until I have an open-source
alternative since *that* is the important matter to me, and not whether
it's running in a Windows or Linux environment. (Of course, if it is
open source it will be possible to port it to whatever OS you run,
including handhelds)
(I hope noone see this mail as a continuation of the flame-war...)
Greetings,
Jonatan Magnusson
Reply by ●February 12, 20042004-02-12
Reply by ●February 12, 20042004-02-12
