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Started by Steve S November 20, 2002
Does anyone out there use a BASIC compiler to write code for their
AVRs? If so, could you give me some guidance on which BASIC program
I should get? As a newcomer to microcontrollers, I'm pretty much in
the dark. Eventually, I'll switch to C or some other compiler, but
for now I'm most comfortable with BASIC.

Right now, I'm thinking about buying one of these two products:
FastAVR version 3.1.2 ( http://www.fastavr.com/ )
or
BASCOM-AVR ( http://www.mcselec.com/bascom-avr.htm ).

Has anyone used either of these BASICs? Or are there other BASICs
that I should know about? Your opinions will be appreciated. (I'm
using a Pentium 3 with Windows 2000Pro).

Steve


Steve,

I am also a newcomer to the AVRs. I have some old experience with
assembly and the 8 bit Motorola series. I too was interested in Basic
compilers. I downloaded the demo version of BASCOM-AVR and have been
using it with the AT90S2313-10. I am well pleased with it, as far as
getting something working with little effort.

Dan Thames

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve S [mailto:steveshepard@stev...]
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 4:01 PM
To: avrclub@avrc...
Subject: [AVR club] BASIC compiler?

Does anyone out there use a BASIC compiler to write code for their
AVRs? If so, could you give me some guidance on which BASIC program
I should get? As a newcomer to microcontrollers, I'm pretty much in
the dark. Eventually, I'll switch to C or some other compiler, but
for now I'm most comfortable with BASIC.

Right now, I'm thinking about buying one of these two products:
FastAVR version 3.1.2 ( http://www.fastavr.com/ )
or
BASCOM-AVR ( http://www.mcselec.com/bascom-avr.htm ).

Has anyone used either of these BASICs? Or are there other BASICs
that I should know about? Your opinions will be appreciated. (I'm
using a Pentium 3 with Windows 2000Pro).

Steve
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Try using RVK-basic. I'm using it with my 90s1200, as it is the only
one i found that works without sram. doesn't have all the fancy lcd,
sonyrc5 stuff that bascom Avr has, but it does the job right! OH,and
it doesn't have code limitation. for personal use is free!

the website is: http://www.rvkbob.com/

best regards,
francis


Thanks, Dan. I guess I'm now leaning toward BASCOM rather than
FASTAVR. BASCOM is a little cheaper and as you said, there's a free
demo/evaluation version. FastAVR claims to have a demo version too,
but I'll be darned if I can find a way to download it from the site.

Steve
===============================

--- In avrclub@y..., "Dan Thames" <dthames@v...> wrote:
> Steve,
>
> I am also a newcomer to the AVRs. I have some old experience with
> assembly and the 8 bit Motorola series. I too was interested in
Basic
> compilers. I downloaded the demo version of BASCOM-AVR and have
been
> using it with the AT90S2313-10. I am well pleased with it, as far
as
> getting something working with little effort.
>
> Dan Thames
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve S [mailto:steveshepard@e...]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 4:01 PM
> To: avrclub@y...
> Subject: [AVR club] BASIC compiler?
>
> Does anyone out there use a BASIC compiler to write code for their
> AVRs? If so, could you give me some guidance on which BASIC
program
> I should get? As a newcomer to microcontrollers, I'm pretty much
in
> the dark. Eventually, I'll switch to C or some other compiler, but
> for now I'm most comfortable with BASIC.
>
> Right now, I'm thinking about buying one of these two products:
> FastAVR version 3.1.2 ( http://www.fastavr.com/ )
> or
> BASCOM-AVR ( http://www.mcselec.com/bascom-avr.htm ).
>
> Has anyone used either of these BASICs? Or are there other BASICs
> that I should know about? Your opinions will be appreciated. (I'm
> using a Pentium 3 with Windows 2000Pro).
>
> Steve >
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> avrclub-unsubscribe@y... >
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Francis,

In fact, I did download RVK, but couldn't get it to work. I
especially liked the price. I'm using Win2000, and one of the
included text files says that at least some of the features won't
work with my opsys. I don't want to get bogged down trying to
troubleshoot AVR code and compiler problems at the same time, so I've
written off RVK-Basic (unlike computers, I can only handle one
variable at a time). But thanks for the suggestion. If I recall
correctly, it claims to work with Win 95 and 98.

Steve
==================================

--- In avrclub@y..., "freespeedpro" <freespeedpro@y...> wrote:
> Try using RVK-basic. I'm using it with my 90s1200, as it is the
only
> one i found that works without sram. doesn't have all the fancy
lcd,
> sonyrc5 stuff that bascom Avr has, but it does the job right!
OH,and
> it doesn't have code limitation. for personal use is free!
>
> the website is: http://www.rvkbob.com/
>
> best regards,
> francis




Steve,

Where do you live? Earthlink is around here too, in Arkansas.

Windows NT, 2000 Pro, and I think XP Pro all protect the control of the
parallel port. Without a special driver for those O.S. you will
normally have problems with external hardware connected to the parallel
port.

W95, 98, and ME don't care as much about the parallel port. I have ME
and BASCOM is working for me.

Dan Thames -----Original Message-----
From: Steve S [mailto:steveshepard@stev...]
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 7:28 PM
To: avrclub@avrc...
Subject: Re: [AVR club] BASIC compiler?

Francis,

In fact, I did download RVK, but couldn't get it to work. I
especially liked the price. I'm using Win2000, and one of the
included text files says that at least some of the features won't
work with my opsys. I don't want to get bogged down trying to
troubleshoot AVR code and compiler problems at the same time, so I've
written off RVK-Basic (unlike computers, I can only handle one
variable at a time). But thanks for the suggestion. If I recall
correctly, it claims to work with Win 95 and 98.

Steve
==================================

--- In avrclub@y..., "freespeedpro" <freespeedpro@y...> wrote:
> Try using RVK-basic. I'm using it with my 90s1200, as it is the
only
> one i found that works without sram. doesn't have all the fancy
lcd,
> sonyrc5 stuff that bascom Avr has, but it does the job right!
OH,and
> it doesn't have code limitation. for personal use is free!
>
> the website is: http://www.rvkbob.com/
>
> best regards,
> francis


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I narrowed my choices down to BASCOM-AVR and FastAVR because they
both claim Win2000 compatability, which I assume includes the LPT
port (but I guess I could always use the serial port instead,
couldn't I?). I have to take their word for it, and yours, because I
won't have any actual hardware until Christmas, but I want to start
playing with the software now. If no one tells me I'm crazy, I'll
probably commit to BASCOM in the next few days.

I'm in Albuquerque (former Altair computer tech). I think Earthlink
is pretty much everywhere in the US. For what it's worth, my
Earthlink DSL connection usually works very well.

Steve
========================
--- In avrclub@y..., "Dan Thames" <dthames@v...> wrote:
> Steve,
>
> Where do you live? Earthlink is around here too, in Arkansas.
>
> Windows NT, 2000 Pro, and I think XP Pro all protect the control of
the
> parallel port. Without a special driver for those O.S. you will
> normally have problems with external hardware connected to the
parallel
> port.
>
> W95, 98, and ME don't care as much about the parallel port. I have
ME
> and BASCOM is working for me.
>
> Dan Thames > -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve S [mailto:steveshepard@e...]
> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 7:28 PM
> To: avrclub@y...
> Subject: Re: [AVR club] BASIC compiler?
>
> Francis,
>
> In fact, I did download RVK, but couldn't get it to work. I
> especially liked the price. I'm using Win2000, and one of the
> included text files says that at least some of the features won't
> work with my opsys. I don't want to get bogged down trying to
> troubleshoot AVR code and compiler problems at the same time, so
I've
> written off RVK-Basic (unlike computers, I can only handle one
> variable at a time). But thanks for the suggestion. If I recall
> correctly, it claims to work with Win 95 and 98.
>
> Steve
> ==================================
>
> --- In avrclub@y..., "freespeedpro" <freespeedpro@y...> wrote:
> > Try using RVK-basic. I'm using it with my 90s1200, as it is the
> only
> > one i found that works without sram. doesn't have all the fancy
> lcd,
> > sonyrc5 stuff that bascom Avr has, but it does the job right!
> OH,and
> > it doesn't have code limitation. for personal use is free!
> >
> > the website is: http://www.rvkbob.com/
> >
> > best regards,
> > francis > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> avrclub-unsubscribe@y... >
> ">http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Terms of Service. >




Bascom-AVR works without issue for me in Windows XP professional, I have not
even installed the direct IO dll that some software require to work properly
in an 2000/XP environment.
You will not be disappointed with bascom the support is extensive and the
people associated with it are exceptionally helpful.

Loren

-------Original Message-------

From: avrclub@avrc...
Date: Friday, November 22, 2002 12:33:46 AM
To: avrclub@avrc...
Subject: Re: [AVR club] BASIC compiler?

I narrowed my choices down to BASCOM-AVR and FastAVR because they
both claim Win2000 compatability, which I assume includes the LPT
port (but I guess I could always use the serial port instead,
couldn't I?). I have to take their word for it, and yours, because I
won't have any actual hardware until Christmas, but I want to start
playing with the software now. If no one tells me I'm crazy, I'll
probably commit to BASCOM in the next few days.

I'm in Albuquerque (former Altair computer tech). I think Earthlink
is pretty much everywhere in the US. For what it's worth, my
Earthlink DSL connection usually works very well.

Steve
=======================
--- In avrclub@y..., "Dan Thames" <dthames@v...> wrote:
> Steve,
>
> Where do you live? Earthlink is around here too, in Arkansas.
>
> Windows NT, 2000 Pro, and I think XP Pro all protect the control of
the
> parallel port. Without a special driver for those O.S. you will
> normally have problems with external hardware connected to the
parallel
> port.
>
> W95, 98, and ME don't care as much about the parallel port. I have
ME
> and BASCOM is working for me.
>
> Dan Thames > -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve S [mailto:steveshepard@e...]
> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 7:28 PM
> To: avrclub@y...
> Subject: Re: [AVR club] BASIC compiler?
>
> Francis,
>
> In fact, I did download RVK, but couldn't get it to work. I
> especially liked the price. I'm using Win2000, and one of the
> included text files says that at least some of the features won't
> work with my opsys. I don't want to get bogged down trying to
> troubleshoot AVR code and compiler problems at the same time, so
I've
> written off RVK-Basic (unlike computers, I can only handle one
> variable at a time). But thanks for the suggestion. If I recall
> correctly, it claims to work with Win 95 and 98.
>
> Steve
> =================================
>
> --- In avrclub@y..., "freespeedpro" <freespeedpro@y...> wrote:
> > Try using RVK-basic. I'm using it with my 90s1200, as it is the
> only
> > one i found that works without sram. doesn't have all the fancy
> lcd,
> > sonyrc5 stuff that bascom Avr has, but it does the job right!
> OH,and
> > it doesn't have code limitation. for personal use is free!
> >
> > the website is: http://www.rvkbob.com/
> >
> > best regards,
> > francis > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> avrclub-unsubscribe@y... >
> ">http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Terms of Service. >


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I do not have experience with FastAvr but I use Bascom and it is a good compiler. Has very good support from the author. You can get a free demo that will program the 2313 and similar. This will give you an idea of how it is before purchasing the registered program.
Just my 2 cents...

Mike Putnam
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve S
To: avrclub@avrc...
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 2:00 PM
Subject: [AVR club] BASIC compiler? Does anyone out there use a BASIC compiler to write code for their
AVRs? If so, could you give me some guidance on which BASIC program
I should get? As a newcomer to microcontrollers, I'm pretty much in
the dark. Eventually, I'll switch to C or some other compiler, but
for now I'm most comfortable with BASIC.

Right now, I'm thinking about buying one of these two products:
FastAVR version 3.1.2 ( http://www.fastavr.com/ )
or
BASCOM-AVR ( http://www.mcselec.com/bascom-avr.htm ).

Has anyone used either of these BASICs? Or are there other BASICs
that I should know about? Your opinions will be appreciated. (I'm
using a Pentium 3 with Windows 2000Pro).

Steve
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Thanks to all who replied to my question. It looks like BASCOM-AVR
is the way I'll go for a BASIC compiler. FastAVR might be as good,
but no one admits to using it and there seems to be a lot less
support for it.

Steve
=========================

--- In avrclub@y..., "Steve S" <steveshepard@e...> wrote:
> Does anyone out there use a BASIC compiler to write code for their
> AVRs? If so, could you give me some guidance on which BASIC
program
> I should get? As a newcomer to microcontrollers, I'm pretty much
in
> the dark. Eventually, I'll switch to C or some other compiler, but
> for now I'm most comfortable with BASIC.
>
> Right now, I'm thinking about buying one of these two products:
> FastAVR version 3.1.2 ( http://www.fastavr.com/ )
> or
> BASCOM-AVR ( http://www.mcselec.com/bascom-avr.htm ).
>
> Has anyone used either of these BASICs? Or are there other BASICs
> that I should know about? Your opinions will be appreciated. (I'm
> using a Pentium 3 with Windows 2000Pro).
>
> Steve