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Problems with IAR Kickstart

Started by Peter Grey July 18, 2012
I have moved from Windows XP to Windows 7. I have installed version
5.40.6 (slac050ah.zip) and am getting some problems. Whenever I turn off
and on again the program locks up and gives me an error message of
"could not open file 'C:\Program Files(x86)IAR
SYSTEMS....\obj\Q9602_testing.r43". I have to remove the program and
then re-install to get it to work.
Any suggestions would be very much appreciated!!

Thanks

Peter

--
Peter Grey
Sigma Delta Technologies
Tel: +618-9285 8611
Mob. +61418952586

Beginning Microcontrollers with the MSP430

Peter:
I am new to working with micro-controllers as I just this month
purchased an MSP430 for some projects I've dreamed. However, I recently
downloaded the IAR and the version I have is 5.50.1. I unzipped the file
and the program seems to run without problems. I say, seems to run
without problems, because I still need to learn how to use the program.
I do not receive any error messages opening the program and the program
operates much like a browser.

Here is a link to try downloading the most current version of the IAR
Workbench.

http://www.iar.com/en/Products/IAR-Embedded-Workbench/TI-MSP430/

Joseph

On 7/17/2012 8:10 PM, Peter Grey wrote:
>
> I have moved from Windows XP to Windows 7. I have installed version
> 5.40.6 (slac050ah.zip) and am getting some problems. Whenever I turn off
> and on again the program locks up and gives me an error message of
> "could not open file 'C:\Program Files(x86)IAR
> SYSTEMS....\obj\Q9602_testing.r43". I have to remove the program and
> then re-install to get it to work.
> Any suggestions would be very much appreciated!!
>
> Thanks
>
> Peter
>
> --
> Peter Grey
> Sigma Delta Technologies
> Tel: +618-9285 8611
> Mob. +61418952586



On 14/08/2012 3:37 PM, Onestone wrote:

Hi Al,

I must admit that I do not like Windows 7 either. It seems to store
things away in places only it knows!! I had to upgrade because of other
software. It looks like I may need to go back tp XP for the IAR software.

Thanks

Peter
> Hi peter, I had similar problems with Win 7 about a year ago, I could
> never determine if it was IAR the cause. I hate Win 7 anyway, so after 2
> tries I just reverted back, that doesn't help, but there are people
> running IAR on win 7 I believe, so it should go. I just couldn't be
> arsed to persevere with something I consider broken anyway.
>
> Al
>
> On 14/08/2012 4:34 PM, Peter Grey wrote:
>> I posted this problem some weeks ago. I moved to a Windows 7 computer
>> some months ago and have been having all sorts of problems with IAR
>> kickstart. Whenever I turn off the computer I have to remove the program
>> entirely and reload it. Now it is locking up a number of times a day.
>> Has anyone experienced such problems? I am using FET_611 which loads as
>> version 5.40.6. I even have problems saving some programs when running
>> this. It is as though I have a virus but I have checked it out and
>> nothing is there. It is becoming really frustrating. I have tried
>> different USB ports, different MSP-FET modules and it is all the same.
>>
>> Any help is appreciated.
>>
>> Peter
>>
>
On 14/08/2012 3:37 PM, Onestone wrote:
> I must admit that I do not like Windows 7 either. It seems to store things
> away in places only it knows!! I had to upgrade because of other software.
> It looks like I may need to go back tp XP for the IAR software.
Peter,

I’ve had similar problems with Win7 running older SW. Apparently some try to
(need to) write in the “C:\Program Files” directory which is not allowed by
UAC.
Since I consider Windows unsafe anyway, I just changed permissions for that
and underlying directories to “R/W for Everyone” and most problems
disappeared.

Regards,
Arie de Muynck

On Tue, 14 Aug 2012 15:06:48 +0000 (UTC), you wrote:

>Jon, I have not used Win7 64bit yet, but in 32bit versions some times it
>helps to run the program in the virtual win-XP machine; have your tried this?

No. I do have the Windows XP vitual machine set up (actually,
lots of them because I set them up for different purposes) on
the system. So I _could_ do the installation there. I just
don't like having to fire up WinXP under Win7 (and suck up
gigs of ram in doing it) just to run iar kickstart.

The machine includes USB 2.0 as well as USB 3.0 ports on it
and I've tried using the non-USB 3.0 ports as well as the USB
3.0 ports, though. None of that helped at all. I could not
tell the difference in behavior no matter which of the more
than a dozen USB ports I tried out. (Darned machine has like
12 ports in the back, some USB 3.0 and some not, and a bunch
in the front, too. I tried EVERY single one of them. The
motherboard manufacturer used the main chipset for some and
then added at least two more chips (from different maker) to
the motherboard for still more of them. It's over-fancy.

Short answer -- no, I've not tried it yet. I could (and
might) if IAR were interested in the results of the test. But
I don't expect them to be, unless their paying customers are.
And it really should come from that direction. I haven't
bought a license, since I only use the MSP430 for hobby work
and teaching students right now.

Jon
On my Win7-64 Ultimate system I was seeing hundreds of failed load attempts for the TI FET dll, which seemed linked to occasional crashes for the OS. And, when trying to load and debug programs in IAR the system would lock-up as well as multiple reboots of the USB ports. (I've got both OEM USB 2.0 & 3.0 ports and an add-in 3.0 card). I've since gone back to using an older XP laptop for my occasional coding projects, and removed the offending TI dlls. IAR is still installed, but no further problems since removing the TI dlls...

It does appear that TI and the Win 7 USB implementations are not happy with each other.
Not a solution to Peter's original question, but maybe something of use???

bob

--- In m..., "Paul Curtis" wrote:
>
> > Short answer -- no, I've not tried it yet. I could (and
> > might) if IAR were interested in the results of the test. But I don't
> > expect them to be, unless their paying customers are.
> > And it really should come from that direction. I haven't bought a license,
> > since I only use the MSP430 for hobby work and teaching students right
> > now.
>
> TI usually make the mess, not tools vendors. TI are responsible for FET
> firmware, USB hardware, USB compliance, and driver software. Sometimes,
> things just don't work and tools vendors get stuck with the problem.
>
> --
> Paul Curtis, Rowley Associates Ltd http://www.rowley.co.uk
> SolderCore Development Platform http://www.soldercore.com
>

> Short answer -- no, I've not tried it yet. I could (and
> might) if IAR were interested in the results of the test. But I don't
> expect them to be, unless their paying customers are.
> And it really should come from that direction. I haven't bought a license,
> since I only use the MSP430 for hobby work and teaching students right
> now.

TI usually make the mess, not tools vendors. TI are responsible for FET
firmware, USB hardware, USB compliance, and driver software. Sometimes,
things just don't work and tools vendors get stuck with the problem.

--
Paul Curtis, Rowley Associates Ltd http://www.rowley.co.uk
SolderCore Development Platform http://www.soldercore.com

On Tue, 14 Aug 2012 17:32:09 +0100, you wrote:

>> Short answer -- no, I've not tried it yet. I could (and
>> might) if IAR were interested in the results of the test. But I don't
>> expect them to be, unless their paying customers are.
>> And it really should come from that direction. I haven't bought a license,
>> since I only use the MSP430 for hobby work and teaching students right
>> now.
>
>TI usually make the mess, not tools vendors. TI are responsible for FET
>firmware, USB hardware, USB compliance, and driver software. Sometimes,
>things just don't work and tools vendors get stuck with the problem.

That could fit the facts. All of my other tools work just
fine on USB (such as Microchip... and I have thousands of
dollars of Microchip equipment here.) I don't have a problem
with any other micro I've working on in the last year and a
half on this machine. IAR kickstart is the only case I have
personally experienced.

Do you have a way I could verify the problem as being TI's?
For example, some other software tool (in limited, hobbyist
form) that would use the same TI drivers as IAR's Kickstart?
If the problem is the same with two completely different
toolsets, but the same TI software, then that would strongly
support this thought.

Jon
I posted this problem some weeks ago. I moved to a Windows 7 computer
some months ago and have been having all sorts of problems with IAR
kickstart. Whenever I turn off the computer I have to remove the program
entirely and reload it. Now it is locking up a number of times a day.
Has anyone experienced such problems? I am using FET_611 which loads as
version 5.40.6. I even have problems saving some programs when running
this. It is as though I have a virus but I have checked it out and
nothing is there. It is becoming really frustrating. I have tried
different USB ports, different MSP-FET modules and it is all the same.

Any help is appreciated.

Peter

--
Peter Grey
Sigma Delta Technologies
Tel: +618-9285 8611
Mob. +61418952586

On Tue, 14 Aug 2012 21:46:19 +0100, Paul wrote:

> You can always install Code Composer Studio. That's all TI.

Forgotten about that. I guess I should bite that bullet.
Maybe I will get lucky and someone on this list will jump in
and say that they also have tried it and will post results
about 64-bit Win7 and that and save me time!! I can hope.

That said, do YOU have problems on Win7 64-bit, Paul? I mean,
if it is in the DLLs and you use them.... then you should
know about it, yes? That would close the door. But if you are
NOT having problems you can assign to the DLL and Win7
64-bit, then perhaps that is a strong indicator in the other
direction -- IAR, instead.

> However, there is a 3P mailing list for the DLL and tools
> and some 3Ps have a rant now and again.

Are you talking about point-to-point??? Like I once thought
to replace what I did use, which was SLIP? That PPP? The one
where all the packets must be delivered in order?

Who is doing that for mail, today? How do I connect in?

Thanks,
Jon