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Started by Manfred privat May 25, 2004
hi group
has anyone an idea of whether it is possible to speed-control a 3-phase 
brushless motor with MSP430F14x
from my point of view it should be possible because of the many compare 
registers of TimerA and TimerB
- application note?
- motor drivers?
- code examples

thanx for any help

Manfred

Beginning Microcontrollers with the MSP430

Check out the Ti application reports handbook (SLAA024) SECT 4.11, PAGE 
4-115 ONWARDS. iNCLUDES HIGH VOLTAGE 3 PHASE BRUSHLESS dc MOTOR 
CIRCUITS. These examples are based upon the C3xx cries processors, but 
are equally valid for any modern part with sufficient timers (Timer A5 
or B5 for example.

Thids manual is an invaluable aid to any MSP430 developer, no matter how 
experienced you might be. Contrary to the title it covers lots of things 
that are regularly queried here, such as register usage, instruction 
decode, recursion, reentrancy, floating point, square root routines, 
integer maths, DCO stability.

Every MSP430 developer should own at least 1 copy, even if it is old 
like mine (2000)

Al

Manfred privat wrote:

> hi group
> has anyone an idea of whether it is possible to speed-control a 3-phase 
> brushless motor with MSP430F14x
> from my point of view it should be possible because of the many compare 
> registers of TimerA and TimerB
> - application note?
> - motor drivers?
> - code examples
> 
> thanx for any help
> 
> Manfred
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> Yahoo! Groups Links
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PDF here http://focus.ti.com/lit/an/slaa024/slaa024.pdf - is that the one?
--
Veronica Merryfield, somewhere in Cambridgeshire, UK



> Check out the Ti application reports handbook
(SLAA024) SECT 4.11, PAGE 
> 4-115 ONWARDS. iNCLUDES HIGH VOLTAGE 3 PHASE BRUSHLESS dc MOTOR 
> CIRCUITS. These examples are based upon the C3xx cries processors, but 
> are equally valid for any modern part with sufficient timers (Timer A5 
> or B5 for example.



this info is really great, thanx a lot
Manfred, on a sunny evening in south Germany


Veronica Merryfield schrieb:

>PDF here
http://focus.ti.com/lit/an/slaa024/slaa024.pdf - is that the one?
>--
>Veronica Merryfield, somewhere in Cambridgeshire, UK
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>>Check out the Ti application reports handbook (SLAA024) SECT 4.11, PAGE 
>>4-115 ONWARDS. iNCLUDES HIGH VOLTAGE 3 PHASE BRUSHLESS dc MOTOR 
>>CIRCUITS. These examples are based upon the C3xx cries processors, but 
>>are equally valid for any modern part with sufficient timers (Timer A5 
>>or B5 for example.
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mit herzlichen Gren

    Manfred, Ulm


That's it, hope you have a high speed hook up ;@{

Al

Veronica Merryfield wrote:

> PDF here
http://focus.ti.com/lit/an/slaa024/slaa024.pdf - is that the one?
> --
> Veronica Merryfield, somewhere in Cambridgeshire, UK
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>>Check out the Ti application reports handbook (SLAA024) SECT 4.11, PAGE 
>>4-115 ONWARDS. iNCLUDES HIGH VOLTAGE 3 PHASE BRUSHLESS dc MOTOR 
>>CIRCUITS. These examples are based upon the C3xx cries processors, but 
>>are equally valid for any modern part with sufficient timers (Timer A5 
>>or B5 for example.
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Manfred privat wrote:

> this info is really great, thanx a lot
> Manfred, on a sunny evening in south Germany

You're welcome. Al on a cold windy, wet windy day at the beach in 
Adelaide. (like it's 16C outside, eskimo weather).

Al

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> Veronica Merryfield schrieb:
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>>PDF here http://focus.ti.com/lit/an/slaa024/slaa024.pdf - is that the
one?
>>--
>>Veronica Merryfield, somewhere in Cambridgeshire, UK
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>>>Check out the Ti application reports handbook (SLAA024) SECT 4.11,
PAGE 
>>>4-115 ONWARDS. iNCLUDES HIGH VOLTAGE 3 PHASE BRUSHLESS dc MOTOR 
>>>CIRCUITS. These examples are based upon the C3xx cries processors,
but 
>>>are equally valid for any modern part with sufficient timers (Timer
A5 
>>>or B5 for example.
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Hello onestone,

Wednesday, May 26, 2004, 2:24:39 PM, you wrote:

o> Manfred privat wrote:

>> this info is really great, thanx a lot
>> Manfred, on a sunny evening in south Germany

o> You're welcome. Al on a cold windy, wet windy day at the beach in 
o> Adelaide. (like it's 16C outside, eskimo weather).

o> Al

Oh please, Christchurch, NZ, fine and 10C outside

Dennis


Dennis McGrath wrote:
> Hello onestone,
> 
> Wednesday, May 26, 2004, 2:24:39 PM, you wrote:
> 
> o> Manfred privat wrote:
> 
> 
>>>this info is really great, thanx a lot
>>>Manfred, on a sunny evening in south Germany
> 
> 
> o> You're welcome. Al on a cold windy, wet windy day at the beach
in 
> o> Adelaide. (like it's 16C outside, eskimo weather).
> 
> o> Al
> 
> Oh please, Christchurch, NZ, fine and 10C outside
> 
> Dennis

There was a time when I'd go outside in winter and have snowball fights 
with the kids, wearing jeans and a T-Shirt, but now I'm older and even 
perhaps a little wiser.

Al


On Wed, 26 May 2004 11:54:39 +0930, Al wrote:

>You're welcome. Al on a cold windy, wet windy
day at the beach in 
>Adelaide. (like it's 16C outside, eskimo weather).

I think Adelaide's about the size of Portland, Oregon where I'm near. 
I'm a
little more than 10 degrees closer to my pole than you are.  Even Hobart is too
close to the equator for my tastes (what with a 75-year record low of -2C,
Hobart is a little hot for my liking.)  Dunedin in NZ is closer, perhaps.  Only
half the rain, though.

16C is the temperature I like for sleeping naked on the floor -- just slightly
overwarm, so no need for blankets or sheets at that temp.  Anything over 5C is
clearly just T-shirt weather.  I confess to wearing a thin, light windbreaker at
0C.  I like a week or two in the -10C region each year, if possible, and enough
snow and ice to stand on it without cracking through.  Haven't used my coat
in
years.

25C is painfully hot and by then I'm thinking about packing my bags and
moving a
quarter radian closer to the nearer pole.  I'm Swedish and my skin is
essentially transparent, my hair a light golden color that lets the sun burn my
scalp, too -- I paid for every freckle with 2nd degree burns (raised welts I
often get in less than 15 minutes of sun at 35 degree latitudes where you are
at.)  Not interested in more of the same.

This area of Oregon is perfect, 25km from Mt. Hood (which rises about 3.5km
above surrounding ground level.)  Near constant cloud cover all year, with a few
days of open sun a year, and 170 cm of rain a year, spread out roughly evenly,
every day.  Only a few days in winter below -10C and only a few days in summer
above 25C.  120 cm of fantastic soil anywhere you look, everything grows so well
that moss and lichens will grow from your car's trim and rubber seals! 
Also,
you just toss some seed without bothering to plant and it grows, if it
doesn't
rot from fungus first.  ;)

Here's some trails on my property:
http://users.easystreet.com/jkirwan/Home%20Trails.jpg
http://users.easystreet.com/jkirwan/Home%20Trails%202.jpg

...and with the sun peeking through the fog:
http://users.easystreet.com/jkirwan/Day%20in%20the%20Woods.jpg

WGS84: N 4526'25.8"  W12223'43.8"
       N 45.4405      W122.3955

Jon

Jonathan Kirwan wrote:
> On Wed, 26 May 2004 11:54:39 +0930, Al wrote:
> 
> 
>>You're welcome. Al on a cold windy, wet windy day at the beach in 
>>Adelaide. (like it's 16C outside, eskimo weather).
> 
> 
> I think Adelaide's about the size of Portland, Oregon where I'm
near.

The rest of Australia considers Adelaide to be a farming village of 
approximately 1.2m people. (ie sydney siders and melbournites consider 
South Australians to be a bit rural, but having lived in both of these 
cities I prefer rural to feral. ;@}

>  I'm a
> little more than 10 degrees closer to my pole than you are.

I'm only 6' 0" tall, How do I comment politely on that? ;@}

> Even Hobart is too
> close to the equator for my tastes (what with a 75-year record low of -2C,
> Hobart is a little hot for my liking.)  Dunedin in NZ is closer, perhaps. 
Only
> half the rain, though.
> 
> 16C is the temperature I like for sleeping naked on the floor -- just
slightly
> overwarm, so no need for blankets or sheets at that temp.  Anything over 5C
is
> clearly just T-shirt weather.  I confess to wearing a thin, light
windbreaker at
> 0C.  I like a week or two in the -10C region each year, if possible, and
enough
> snow and ice to stand on it without cracking through.  Haven't used my
coat in
> years.

I used to enjoy the cold, and still do, it's just that my definition of 
cold has shifted. When I lived in England I slept with the windows wide 
open in winter, and just a thin quilt. In my army days I used to do 
winter survival training in Norway, literally living in the snow. I 
don't sleep on floors, I had enough roughing it in the Army to last a 
life time, now I consider the Holiday inn to be as close to sleeping 
rough as I'd like to get;. My old bones appreciate a mattress.

> 25C is painfully hot and by then I'm thinking
about packing my bags and moving a
> quarter radian closer to the nearer pole.  I'm Swedish and my skin is
> essentially transparent, my hair a light golden color that lets the sun
burn my
> scalp, too -- I paid for every freckle with 2nd degree burns (raised welts
I
> often get in less than 15 minutes of sun at 35 degree latitudes where you
are
> at.)  Not interested in more of the same.

My middle brother gets very sick at temperatures much over 20-25C, while 
my elder brother is just the opposite. I feel the cold, but am not 
really uncomfortable from it, like wise the heat. I spent years working 
the middle east, including the sahara regions. The hottest I experienced 
was at j'aloh Oasis in Libya, at 58.5C. too hot to sweat. I went 
swimming, then for a jog (I was a lot younger then!) The coldest 
probably around -30C.

Earlier this year Adelaide exprienced it's hottest period on record, 
several days at 47C.

> 
> This area of Oregon is perfect, 25km from Mt. Hood (which rises about 3.5km
> above surrounding ground level.)  Near constant cloud cover all year, with
a few
> days of open sun a year, and 170 cm of rain a year, spread out roughly
evenly,
> every day.  Only a few days in winter below -10C and only a few days in
summer
> above 25C.

I must admit I find gloomy skies and dank weather depressing, although I 
love a nice violent storm

>  120 cm of fantastic soil anywhere you look,
everything grows so well
> that moss and lichens will grow from your car's trim and rubber seals!
 Also,
> you just toss some seed without bothering to plant and it grows, if it
doesn't
> rot from fungus first.  ;)

My car grows dust and sand overnight ;@<

> 
> Here's some trails on my property:
> http://users.easystreet.com/jkirwan/Home%20Trails.jpg
> http://users.easystreet.com/jkirwan/Home%20Trails%202.jpg
> 
> ...and with the sun peeking through the fog:
> http://users.easystreet.com/jkirwan/Day%20in%20the%20Woods.jpg

Looks nice, almost scandanavian.

Cheers

Al