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My salesperson is Maxine Taymore []. I suspect you'll see something around $1800 for just the compiler. I recently purchased several seats of HC12 compiler + simulator + BDM debugger for about $2700 each. I have been a pleased Cosmic user for 10+ years. 607-656-2597 -----Original Message----- From: David Lecomte [mailto:] Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 7:51 PM To: Subject: [68HC12] Prices of COSMIC compiler in USA? Gnu's HC12 compiler anyone using it? Hi, I've finished the development of a new range of radio base stations for my employer, and they are now selling (primarily in the USA). The market reaction has been good. The new range, using a HC12 (our old gear had an HC11), with code written in C has a lot more "smarts" than our old gear. Unfortunately this success, has led our clients to have even more expectations. Ie "well if it can do all this, surely you can make it do this and this and this as well". And in fact it could do most of what they ask. My problem is that I need to page. I already do some simple paging. My start up code is in one page, code which resides in RAM is stored in two pages (1 page == 16K ), and the code that ends up after start-up as 8000-BFFF is another page, and of course the code from C000-FFFF is the common page. In all, I have about 58K of code (after start-up). My start-up code is on top of this. I'm currently using Imagecraft's compiler. I attempted to use the Professional Edition, but could never get it to compile properly. After fiddling for the best part of a week with a few emails back and forth with Richard, I eventually gave up. I'm now reviewing my compiler options again. It was about two years ago when I settled on Imagecraft. I'm reviewing my options and it may be possible that I end up just upgrading to Imagecraft's professional edition. I checked the various compilers yesterday, and the glossy for the COSMIC compiler looked good. Anyone using it care to comment? When I looked at using the GNU C port two years ago, the code it produced was pure garbage. Has there been a more recent port? If so, is anyone prepared to comment? When I tried to check out the COSMIC compiler two years ago, I found that its price was quite expensive. BUT, that mah have been due to the fact that some local Australian company had the agency agreement from COSMIC UK (the UK is only 13000 miles away, 10 hours time difference, and on the other side of the world by the way!!!). What I would like to know is what is the US price, so that I can compare with the local reps to ensure that the price hasn't had too many "mark-ups" on its way to the "land of Oz(tralia)". Thanks in advance for any comments. David leComte RF Technology Pty Ltd Sydney, Australia -------------------- ">http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ |
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Re: Prices of COSMIC compiler in USA? Gnu's HC12 compi ler anyone using it?
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Nobody uses INTROL compilers???? (I do!) Armand -----Original Message----- From: Oliver Betz [mailto:] Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 1:35 AM To: Subject: Re: [68HC12] Prices of COSMIC compiler in USA? Gnu's HC12 compiler anyone using it? David Lecomte <> wrote: [...] > I checked the various compilers yesterday, and the > glossy for the COSMIC compiler looked good. Anyone > using it care to comment? It's great. Produces compact and fast code. Cosmic + iSystem iC3000 is cheaper than Metrowerks. > When I looked at using the GNU C port two years ago, > the code it produced was pure garbage. Has there > been a more recent port? If so, is anyone prepared > to comment? November 2001 it was not much better. There is a mailing list, ask there. [...] > What I would like to know is what is the US price, so that You could also ask Cosmic France where it comes from. Or look at www.Elektronikladen.de. Oliver -------------------- ">http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ |
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"Medeiros, Armand" <> wrote: >Nobody uses INTROL compilers???? (I do!) When did you buy it and when did you hear from Introl last? Sad to thay: I wouldn't (didn't) buy it for the HC12 in the present version. I wouldn't buy it if I weren't sure that I get support and bug fixes. Oliver -- Oliver Betz, Muenchen |
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It is a one man show...I heard from him recently. Truth is, I use it for 68020 stuff as well as 6805, 68hc11, 6303 etc...all in one is nice. Armand -----Original Message----- From: Oliver Betz [mailto:] Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 12:59 PM To: Subject: Re: [68HC12] Prices of COSMIC compiler in USA? Gnu's HC12 compi ler anyone using it? "Medeiros, Armand" <> wrote: >Nobody uses INTROL compilers???? (I do!) When did you buy it and when did you hear from Introl last? Sad to thay: I wouldn't (didn't) buy it for the HC12 in the present version. I wouldn't buy it if I weren't sure that I get support and bug fixes. Oliver -- Oliver Betz, Muenchen -------------------- ">http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ |
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Reply by ●June 19, 20022002-06-19
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"Medeiros, Armand" <> wrote: > It is a one man show...I heard from him recently. Truth is, I use it Yes, and AFAIK the compiler is no more his main work. > for 68020 stuff as well as 6805, 68hc11, 6303 etc...all in one is > nice. One of the advantages of CODE is that you pay once for all supported CPUs. Another advantage: it's nearly platform independent. But I see no progress since 1-1/2 years. No HC08 compiler. No more traffic on the mailing list. Oliver |
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I used Introl tools for a number of MC6809 and MC68332 projects over a period of about ten years. I was quite pleased with the tools, they worked well, had a couple of minor bugs, got good support from Introl. I am currently using ImageCraft tools on MC68HC11 projects, am pleased with them and have gotten good support on a couple of usage questions. Bob Smith --- Avoid computer viruses, Practice safe hex --- -- Specializing in small, cost effective embedded control systems -- Robert L. (Bob) Smith Smith Machine Works, Inc. 9900 Lumlay Road Richmond, VA 23236 804/745-1065 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Oliver Betz" <> To: <> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 3:58 PM Subject: Re: [68HC12] Prices of COSMIC compiler in USA? Gnu's HC12 compi ler anyone using it? > "Medeiros, Armand" <> wrote: > > >Nobody uses INTROL compilers???? (I do!) > > When did you buy it and when did you hear from Introl last? > > Sad to thay: I wouldn't (didn't) buy it for the HC12 in the present > version. I wouldn't buy it if I weren't sure that I get support and > bug fixes. > > Oliver > -- > Oliver Betz, Muenchen > -------------------- > > ">http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > |
Reply by ●June 19, 20022002-06-19
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The assemblers I primarily use are mature and need no maintenance as far
as I can tell. The user interface in their older 3.x version of CODE wasn't to my liking and there are a couple bugs in the C compiler and IDE. I haven't played with version 4.x Beta much. I also use ICC12 with NoIce and StarProg etc...on a ComPOD12. No complaints there so long as the oscillator speeds match. Armand > It is a one man show...I heard from him recently. Truth is, I use it Yes, and AFAIK the compiler is no more his main work. > for 68020 stuff as well as 6805, 68hc11, 6303 etc...all in one is > nice. One of the advantages of CODE is that you pay once for all supported CPUs. Another advantage: it's nearly platform independent. But I see no progress since 1-1/2 years. No HC08 compiler. No more traffic on the mailing list. Oliver |
