Chris H wrote:> In message <943cee7c-f88d-4bf2-ba1d-dbb6ea28503e@c9g2000yqm.googlegroups > .com>, Jughead <kobus.esterhuizen@gmail.com> writes >> On Apr 21, 11:54 pm, djordj <djo...@despammed.com> wrote: >>> Chris H formulated on martedì : >>> >>>> Why? He is looking for an emulator not a different MCU. >>> Yes, this is the real problem. >>> I'm using an old 80x52 built into an old PCB, so I can't use new MCU >>> equipped with ISP and/or JTAG interfaces. >>> I need an emulator. >>> >>> Thanks >> After using various ICE's over a period of 20 years. The best one thus >> far is a debugging tool I’ve build from a silabs F020 and using the >> Keil uVision 2 debugger through a silab jtag interface. > > You must work for Silabs! There is a world of difference between a > JTAG and an Emulator. > > Also the OP has stated that it is an 8051 on a PC that does not have a > JTAG or ISP. SO your solution is a non starter anyway. > > I stand by my suggestion of looking for a second hand Hitex or Nohau > ICE.Saw this thread a bit late. If the OP is in Australia, still around and interested I *do* have a Nohau EMUL51 emulator board set though I doubt anyone has the 2 x ISA slots anymore that these require... Alternatively I also have a Philips PDS51 (made in NZ) and if anyone is still reading ;-) a CIEBO 750 kit (Philips 87X750,1 & 2 micros). Chris.
8051 Emulator
Started by ●April 20, 2009
Reply by ●April 23, 20092009-04-23
Reply by ●April 24, 20092009-04-24
In message <dT7Il.5861$y61.5156@news-server.bigpond.net.au>, cth <a@b.c> writes>Chris H wrote: >> In message <943cee7c-f88d-4bf2-ba1d-dbb6ea28503e@c9g2000yqm.googlegroups >> .com>, Jughead <kobus.esterhuizen@gmail.com> writes >>> On Apr 21, 11:54 pm, djordj <djo...@despammed.com> wrote: >>>> Chris H formulated on martedì : >>>> >>>>> Why? He is looking for an emulator not a different MCU. >>>> Yes, this is the real problem. >>>> I'm using an old 80x52 built into an old PCB, so I can't use new MCU >>>> equipped with ISP and/or JTAG interfaces. >>>> I need an emulator. >>>> >>>> Thanks >>> After using various ICE's over a period of 20 years. The best one thus >>> far is a debugging tool I’ve build from a silabs F020 and using the >>> Keil uVision 2 debugger through a silab jtag interface. >> You must work for Silabs! There is a world of difference between a >> JTAG and an Emulator. >> Also the OP has stated that it is an 8051 on a PC that does not have >>a >> JTAG or ISP. SO your solution is a non starter anyway. >> I stand by my suggestion of looking for a second hand Hitex or Nohau >> ICE. > >Saw this thread a bit late. > >If the OP is in Australia, still around and interested I *do* have a >Nohau EMUL51 emulator board set though I doubt anyone has the 2 x ISA >slots anymore that these require... > >Alternatively I also have a Philips PDS51 (made in NZ) and if anyone is >still reading ;-) a CIEBO 750 kit (Philips 87X750,1 & 2 micros).Either of those are a LOT better than a JTAG. -- \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ \/\/\/\/\ Chris Hills Staffs England /\/\/\/\/ \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
Reply by ●April 24, 20092009-04-24
On Apr 24, 6:54=A0pm, Chris H <ch...@phaedsys.org> wrote:> In message <dT7Il.5861$y61.5...@news-server.bigpond.net.au>, cth <a...@b.=c>> writes > > > > >Chris H wrote: > >> In message <943cee7c-f88d-4bf2-ba1d-dbb6ea285...@c9g2000yqm.googlegrou=ps> >> .com>, Jughead <kobus.esterhui...@gmail.com> writes > >>> On Apr 21, 11:54 pm, djordj <djo...@despammed.com> wrote: > >>>> Chris H formulated on marted=EC : > > >>>>> Why? He is looking for an emulator not a different MCU. > >>>> Yes, this is the real problem. > >>>> I'm using an old 80x52 built into an old PCB, so I can't use new MCU > >>>> equipped with ISP and/or JTAG interfaces. > >>>> I need an emulator. > > >>>> Thanks > >>> After using various ICE's over a period of 20 years. The best one thu=s> >>> far is a debugging tool I=92ve build from a silabs F020 and using the > >>> Keil uVision 2 debugger through a silab jtag interface. > >> =A0You must work for Silabs! =A0There is a world of difference between==A0a> >> JTAG and an Emulator. > >> =A0Also the OP has stated that it is an 8051 on a PC that does not hav=e> >>a > >> JTAG or ISP. SO your solution is a non starter anyway. > >> =A0I stand by my suggestion of looking for a second hand Hitex or Noha=u> >> ICE. > > >Saw this thread a bit late. > > >If the OP is in Australia, still around and interested I *do* have a > >Nohau EMUL51 emulator board set though I doubt anyone has the 2 x ISA > >slots anymore that these require... > > >Alternatively I also have a Philips PDS51 (made in NZ) and if anyone is > >still reading ;-) a CIEBO 750 kit (Philips 87X750,1 & 2 micros). > > Either of those are a LOT better than a JTAG.Depends on your problems : I'd much rather emulate with the same silicon as I ship :) - as an example, the last two 'Emulation Needed issues' we tracked down, related to Silicon peripheral issues. (and subtle variations from the datasheets) If the emulator uses bondout, or different silicon, you have a blind spot. -jg
Reply by ●April 24, 20092009-04-24
In message <c4e91391-4077-4818-911a-5895c02e6377@i28g2000prd.googlegroup s.com>, -jg <Jim.Granville@gmail.com> writes>On Apr 24, 6:54 pm, Chris H <ch...@phaedsys.org> wrote: >> In message <dT7Il.5861$y61.5...@news-server.bigpond.net.au>, cth <a...@b.c> >> writes >> >> >> >> >Chris H wrote: >> >> In message <943cee7c-f88d-4bf2-ba1d-dbb6ea285...@c9g2000yqm.googlegroups >> >> .com>, Jughead <kobus.esterhui...@gmail.com> writes >> >>> On Apr 21, 11:54 pm, djordj <djo...@despammed.com> wrote: >> >>>> Chris H formulated on martedì : >> >> >>>>> Why? He is looking for an emulator not a different MCU. >> >>>> Yes, this is the real problem. >> >>>> I'm using an old 80x52 built into an old PCB, so I can't use new MCU >> >>>> equipped with ISP and/or JTAG interfaces. >> >>>> I need an emulator. >> >> >>>> Thanks >> >>> After using various ICE's over a period of 20 years. The best one thus >> >>> far is a debugging tool I’ve build from a silabs F020 and using the >> >>> Keil uVision 2 debugger through a silab jtag interface. >> >> You must work for Silabs! There is a world of difference between a >> >> JTAG and an Emulator. >> >> Also the OP has stated that it is an 8051 on a PC that does not have >> >>a >> >> JTAG or ISP. SO your solution is a non starter anyway. >> >> I stand by my suggestion of looking for a second hand Hitex or Nohau >> >> ICE. >> >> >Saw this thread a bit late. >> >> >If the OP is in Australia, still around and interested I *do* have a >> >Nohau EMUL51 emulator board set though I doubt anyone has the 2 x ISA >> >slots anymore that these require... >> >> >Alternatively I also have a Philips PDS51 (made in NZ) and if anyone is >> >still reading ;-) a CIEBO 750 kit (Philips 87X750,1 & 2 micros). >> >> Either of those are a LOT better than a JTAG. > >Depends on your problems : > >I'd much rather emulate with the same silicon as I ship :) >- as an example, the last two 'Emulation Needed issues' we tracked >down, related to Silicon peripheral issues. >(and subtle variations from the datasheets) > >If the emulator uses bondout, or different silicon, you have a blind >spot.For many 51's you use a hooks part so there is no difference. -- \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ \/\/\/\/\ Chris Hills Staffs England /\/\/\/\/ \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
Reply by ●April 24, 20092009-04-24
Chris H brought next idea :> I would suggest a replacement for a Brendes Biceps-V would be one of the > old Hitex or Nohau ICE. There must be a lot of those going spare. > > There is the Keil simulator (as shown on the Brendes web site) as this > has support for many of the 8051 variants. The free one has a 4K limit.Thanks for the advices. I'll try to find them. PS: I'm writing from Italy.
Reply by ●April 27, 20092009-04-27
Chris H wrote:> I would suggest a replacement for a Brendes Biceps-V would be one of the > old Hitex or Nohau ICE. There must be a lot of those going spare...what would you suggest as a place to look for those? I am in a somwhat similar situation as djordj - I have got a MX51, model MX51-A-19, serial number 647 but I am in need for the software (any platform would be OK) and the DIL40 adapter cable since I want to work on a 8751 based design... I am monitoring eBay for 6 months now, but no success especially on the DIL40 cable... Thanks and best regards, Erik.
Reply by ●April 27, 20092009-04-27
