justme wrote:> Does anyone else find that STMs web site on Cortex M3 beyond abysmal? > There are major problems with it and I even emailed them asking for > some directions on navigating their site ( 3 times) and I have yet to > receive a response. > > I would appreciate any input about this. > > Thank you. > > Joe >It's terminally broken at present. I even tried with (gasp) ie, but it made no difference. Perhaps it designed to work on an Ipad, or some other trendy mobile device. You can find the data if you click on some of the graphics, but clicking on the microcontrollers tab produces a page telling me search term not found !. Don't these people ever test the functionality ?. It won't stop me using their devices, but they really need to get their act together and quick... Regards, Chris
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Started by ●February 25, 2011
Reply by ●February 26, 20112011-02-26
Reply by ●February 26, 20112011-02-26
On 02/26/2011 01:21 PM, ChrisQ wrote:> justme wrote: >> Does anyone else find that STMs web site on Cortex M3 beyond abysmal? >> There are major problems with it and I even emailed them asking for >> some directions on navigating their site ( 3 times) and I have yet to >> receive a response. >> I would appreciate any input about this. >> >> Thank you. >> >> Joe >> > > It's terminally broken at present. I even tried with (gasp) ie, but it > made no difference. Perhaps it designed to work on an Ipad, or some > other trendy mobile device. You can find the data if you click on some > of the graphics, but clicking on the microcontrollers tab produces a > page telling me search term not found !.I've just tried it with firefox on ubuntu, and it works fine. Usability is a big problem. It's mostly unused white background, a lot of scroll bars (there are even *two* nested scroll bars on the main panel), and tiny boxes with parameters and results that only show 3 lines at a time.
Reply by ●February 26, 20112011-02-26
On Feb 26, 7:51=A0am, Arlet Ottens <usene...@c-scape.nl> wrote:> Usability is a big problem. It's mostly unused white background, aYou're missing the point. It's *art* - it's not meant to be functional. You're obviously just not erudite enough to understand the artist's cry of protest against a harsh universe governed by usability conventions.
Reply by ●February 26, 20112011-02-26
Arlet Ottens wrote:> I've just tried it with firefox on ubuntu, and it works fine.Define: "works fine" ?.> > Usability is a big problem. It's mostly unused white background, a lot > of scroll bars (there are even *two* nested scroll bars on the main > panel), and tiny boxes with parameters and results that only show 3 > lines at a time. >Presentation, not substance, or as someone else said so succinctly: "The Medium is the Message: :-)... Regards, Chris
Reply by ●February 26, 20112011-02-26
On 02/26/2011 02:57 PM, ChrisQ wrote:>> I've just tried it with firefox on ubuntu, and it works fine. > > Define: "works fine" ?.I think I see what the designer intended me to see. I see lists of devices and parameters, and very impressive animations of GUI elements. I don't think I'll be using this site for selecting devices. Instead, I'll just go to digi-key, especially since they now allow sorting by price.
Reply by ●February 26, 20112011-02-26
On 26.02.2011 14:57, ChrisQ wrote:> "The Medium is the Message: :-)...If so, the Message in question would appear to be: GO AWAY! WE DON't WANT CUSTOMERS HERE! YOU'RE GETTING IN THE WAY OF US EXPRESSING OUR INNER ARTIST!
Reply by ●February 28, 20112011-02-28
On Feb 25, 12:37=A0pm, Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org- Earth.UFP> wrote:> On 2011-02-25, NeedCleverHandle <d_s_kl...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > As well as the fact I've found Flash based websites to be bloated and slo=w,> especially when you try browsing them from a mobile internet connection > which I do a good portion of the time, I also refuse to open my machines > to a major source of malware (given Flash's security history). >There are a number of viruses that are installed with flash scripts. No sane person would ever require flash to view a web site. Gee, wouldn't you want your chip vendor to be sane? RK
Reply by ●February 28, 20112011-02-28
In article <d85cf734-cef1-4216-97ea-2e4caba1f752@ 22g2000prx.googlegroups.com>, d_s_klein@yahoo.com says...> > On Feb 25, 12:37�pm, Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org- > Earth.UFP> wrote: > > On 2011-02-25, NeedCleverHandle <d_s_kl...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > As well as the fact I've found Flash based websites to be bloated and slow, > > especially when you try browsing them from a mobile internet connection > > which I do a good portion of the time, I also refuse to open my machines > > to a major source of malware (given Flash's security history). > > > > There are a number of viruses that are installed with flash scripts. > No sane person would ever require flash to view a web site. > > Gee, wouldn't you want your chip vendor to be sane? > > RKThere are also viruses that are installed with PDF documents. Does that mean that we should avoid PDF files from chip vendors? ;-) The problem with flash on a web site has nothing to do with virus vulnerability. I'm convinced that almost any data format can be used to transmit a virus. The problem with flash is that it really isn't necessary to provide engineers with appropriate data. Mark Borgerson
Reply by ●February 28, 20112011-02-28
On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 14:33:44 -0800, Mark Borgerson <mborgerson@comcast.net> wrote:>In article <d85cf734-cef1-4216-97ea-2e4caba1f752@ >22g2000prx.googlegroups.com>, d_s_klein@yahoo.com says... >> >> On Feb 25, 12:37�pm, Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org- >> Earth.UFP> wrote: >> > On 2011-02-25, NeedCleverHandle <d_s_kl...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> > >> > As well as the fact I've found Flash based websites to be bloated and slow, >> > especially when you try browsing them from a mobile internet connection >> > which I do a good portion of the time, I also refuse to open my machines >> > to a major source of malware (given Flash's security history). >> > >> >> There are a number of viruses that are installed with flash scripts. >> No sane person would ever require flash to view a web site. >> >> Gee, wouldn't you want your chip vendor to be sane? >> >> RK >There are also viruses that are installed with PDF documents. Does that >mean that we should avoid PDF files from chip vendors? ;-) > >The problem with flash on a web site has nothing to do with virus >vulnerability. I'm convinced that almost any data format can >be used to transmit a virus. The problem with flash is that it >really isn't necessary to provide engineers with appropriate data. > > >Mark BorgersonI can view PDF by tranferring them to the Kindle and mitigate the risk. Now that I mention it, I suppose I could view web pages over a smart cell phone if it supports flash and mitigate the risk there, too. So I suppose there are options. But to be honest, I really would like to see web pages designed to work well with Lynx. So that if I choose, I could avoid flash and animations and silverlight and so on and get by just fine in a dos box viewing the web. I'm not happy being forced into using flash or silverlight to access chip vendor content. Jon
Reply by ●February 28, 20112011-02-28
On Feb 28, 2:33=A0pm, Mark Borgerson <mborger...@comcast.net> wrote:> In article <d85cf734-cef1-4216-97ea-2e4caba1f752@ > 22g2000prx.googlegroups.com>, d_s_kl...@yahoo.com says... > > > > > On Feb 25, 12:37 pm, Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org- > > Earth.UFP> wrote: > > > On 2011-02-25, NeedCleverHandle <d_s_kl...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > As well as the fact I've found Flash based websites to be bloated and=slow,> > > especially when you try browsing them from a mobile internet connecti=on> > > which I do a good portion of the time, I also refuse to open my machi=nes> > > to a major source of malware (given Flash's security history). > > > There are a number of viruses that are installed with flash scripts. > > No sane person would ever require flash to view a web site. > > > Gee, wouldn't you want your chip vendor to be sane? > > > RK > > There are also viruses that are installed with PDF documents. =A0Does tha=t> mean that we should avoid PDF files from chip vendors? =A0 ;-) > > The problem with flash on a web site has nothing to do with virus > vulnerability. =A0 I'm convinced that almost any data format can > be used to transmit a virus. =A0 The problem with flash is that it > really =A0isn't necessary to provide engineers with appropriate data. > > Mark BorgersonThrough PDF? Really? Is there an example that will survive snopes.com? With PDF one can control the active content. Not so with flash. But I think that we are in agreement that the use of flash on the ST web site is "wrong". RK
